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Post 01/17/2024 14:20     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:You may say I took the bait, but I looked at the rankings data for local clubs 8th grade seasons from 25s-28s.

If you take out the rankings anomaly caused by BLC's historically-strong 2027 team (which had a number of players who now play for Baltimore clubs), and historically weak 2028 team, the rest of the DC-area teams are about on par with the '25, '26, '27 teams in average ranking.

Stars (#38) and Pride (#14) are consistent with historical track records. Next Level's actually better (at #67). If we want to count Renegades' successor, 3D Maryland, who has their highest ranked club yet with the 2028s (#36), that further balances the scales.

The big drop-offs are the local Maryland (MOCO) teams, BLC (#201 down from #7 for the 2027s) and MC Elite (#177), which are ranked much lower than historical averages. This thread has talked at length about how top players that may have traditionally played in MOCO are now playing with Baltimore clubs at the 2028 level, and whether any might consider coming back and trying out for Capital.

So the data does not support the conclusion that the local area 2028s are not as strong as prior years. It does appear, however, that MOCO talent may indeed have moved North for club play.

Proof will be mid season 2024-25 when the Capital '28s have built a track record.


2028 is an off year for talent across the board, unfortunately. It’s too bad — every now and again there’s a drop.

The best of BLC 2027 went to Capital (about ten players). BLC 2029 is a top 20 team - no sign of any players moving to Balto. They would have done so by now if they felt they needed / wanted to. It doesn’t make sense for them to move since they’re on a Capital track. When you check the Capital 2024 and 2025 commits and compare them with Hero’s, Capital has the edge in sending girls to better schools and programs.


Fairly weak argument to respond to a substantive post with a declarative statement and no supporting data. If you want to back your statement, great, if not I will remain unpersuaded that there is some dramatic change--your clever condescension notwithstanding.


Stats that show the local talent at the 2028 level is “off”:

- Prior to HS, at 2026, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) averaged a national ranking of #33. The math (rounded):
- BLC 8th grade = #77; BLC 7th grade = #85 (77+85 / 2 = #81 average) **6th grade stats are unavailable
- Pride 8th grade = #9; 7th grade = #7 (9 + 7 / 2 = #8 average)
- Stars 8th grade = #7; 7th grade = #14 (7 + 14 / 2 = #11 average)
- 81 + 8 + 11 / 3 = 33
- Prior to HS, at 2027, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) averaged a national ranking of #24. The math (rounded):
- BLC 8th grade = #7; 7th grade = #7; 6th grade = #4 (7 + 7 + 4 / 3 = #6 average)
- Pride 8th grade = #23; 7th grade = #14; 6th grade = #10 (23 + 14 + 10 / 3 = #16 average)
- Stars 8th grade = #42; 7th grade = #64; 6th grade = #43 (42 + 64 + 43 / 3 = #50 average)
- 6 + 16 + 50 / 3 = 24
- Prior to HS, at 2028, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) averaged a national ranking of #72. The math (rounded):
- BLC 8th grade = #201; 7th grade = #157; BLC 6th grade = #118 (201+157+118 / 3 = #159 average
- Pride 8th grade = #14; 7th grade = #19; 6th grade = #17 (14 + 19 + 17 / 3 = #17 average
- Stars 8th grade = #38; 7th grade = #45; 6th grade = #36 (38 + 45 + 36 / 3 = #40 average
- 159 + 17 + 40 / 3 = 72
- At 2029, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) average a national ranking of #19. The math (rounded):
- BLC 7th grade = #20; 6th grade = #11 (20 + 11 / 2 = #16 average) ** 5th grade stats are unavailable
- Pride 7th grade = #23; 6th grade = #15 (23 + 15 / 2 = #19 average)
- Stars 7th grade = #26; 6th grade = #20 (26 + 20 / 2 = #23 average)
- 16 + 19 + 23 / 3 = 19


Wow. This is a lot of work. Holy crap.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 14:18     Subject: Re:2028 Girls Lacrosse

You have too much time on your hands and you are too invested. find a hobby or maybe a boyfriend?
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 14:04     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:You may say I took the bait, but I looked at the rankings data for local clubs 8th grade seasons from 25s-28s.

If you take out the rankings anomaly caused by BLC's historically-strong 2027 team (which had a number of players who now play for Baltimore clubs), and historically weak 2028 team, the rest of the DC-area teams are about on par with the '25, '26, '27 teams in average ranking.

Stars (#38) and Pride (#14) are consistent with historical track records. Next Level's actually better (at #67). If we want to count Renegades' successor, 3D Maryland, who has their highest ranked club yet with the 2028s (#36), that further balances the scales.

The big drop-offs are the local Maryland (MOCO) teams, BLC (#201 down from #7 for the 2027s) and MC Elite (#177), which are ranked much lower than historical averages. This thread has talked at length about how top players that may have traditionally played in MOCO are now playing with Baltimore clubs at the 2028 level, and whether any might consider coming back and trying out for Capital.

So the data does not support the conclusion that the local area 2028s are not as strong as prior years. It does appear, however, that MOCO talent may indeed have moved North for club play.

Proof will be mid season 2024-25 when the Capital '28s have built a track record.


2028 is an off year for talent across the board, unfortunately. It’s too bad — every now and again there’s a drop.

The best of BLC 2027 went to Capital (about ten players). BLC 2029 is a top 20 team - no sign of any players moving to Balto. They would have done so by now if they felt they needed / wanted to. It doesn’t make sense for them to move since they’re on a Capital track. When you check the Capital 2024 and 2025 commits and compare them with Hero’s, Capital has the edge in sending girls to better schools and programs.


Fairly weak argument to respond to a substantive post with a declarative statement and no supporting data. If you want to back your statement, great, if not I will remain unpersuaded that there is some dramatic change--your clever condescension notwithstanding.


Stats that show the local talent at the 2028 level is “off”:

- Prior to HS, at 2026, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) averaged a national ranking of #33. The math (rounded):
- BLC 8th grade = #77; BLC 7th grade = #85 (77+85 / 2 = #81 average) **6th grade stats are unavailable
- Pride 8th grade = #9; 7th grade = #7 (9 + 7 / 2 = #8 average)
- Stars 8th grade = #7; 7th grade = #14 (7 + 14 / 2 = #11 average)
- 81 + 8 + 11 / 3 = 33
- Prior to HS, at 2027, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) averaged a national ranking of #24. The math (rounded):
- BLC 8th grade = #7; 7th grade = #7; 6th grade = #4 (7 + 7 + 4 / 3 = #6 average)
- Pride 8th grade = #23; 7th grade = #14; 6th grade = #10 (23 + 14 + 10 / 3 = #16 average)
- Stars 8th grade = #42; 7th grade = #64; 6th grade = #43 (42 + 64 + 43 / 3 = #50 average)
- 6 + 16 + 50 / 3 = 24
- Prior to HS, at 2028, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) averaged a national ranking of #72. The math (rounded):
- BLC 8th grade = #201; 7th grade = #157; BLC 6th grade = #118 (201+157+118 / 3 = #159 average
- Pride 8th grade = #14; 7th grade = #19; 6th grade = #17 (14 + 19 + 17 / 3 = #17 average
- Stars 8th grade = #38; 7th grade = #45; 6th grade = #36 (38 + 45 + 36 / 3 = #40 average
- 159 + 17 + 40 / 3 = 72
- At 2029, the top three DMV teams (BLC, Pride Red, Stars LB) average a national ranking of #19. The math (rounded):
- BLC 7th grade = #20; 6th grade = #11 (20 + 11 / 2 = #16 average) ** 5th grade stats are unavailable
- Pride 7th grade = #23; 6th grade = #15 (23 + 15 / 2 = #19 average)
- Stars 7th grade = #26; 6th grade = #20 (26 + 20 / 2 = #23 average)
- 16 + 19 + 23 / 3 = 19
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 13:59     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


BLC through 8th grade for 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2029 were / are top 20 teams (some notably higher, like 2027 BLC, which was a top ten team). BLC 2028 is an off year. The point about BLC being on the “high 60s to 80s” is way off.


Respectfully, you may want to check the data again on the top 20 teams. Please let us know if you have a better source for current and historic rankings than usclublax.com. That said, you were right, I was way off. BLC has averaged a ranking of 103.8, not 60s-80, in their 8th grade year over the 5 teams where we have data.

--For the 2025s, you are right, I was too optimistic. BLC 2025 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('20-'21) ranked 221st. That's 221, not 21. I misread their US Club Lax "rating" (76) as their "ranking", as I didn't expect them to be that far down.

--BLC 2026 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('21-'22) ranked 77th.

--The very strong 2027 team was acknowledged in the original post (finished 7th in '22-'23). Some great players in that group.

--2028s are currently ranked 201.

--2029s not even in 8th grade yet, but are currently ranked 20th.

Averaging the ratings--2025 (221); 2026 (77); 2027 (7); 2028 (201); and for fairness 2029 (20)--results in an average of 103.8.

**No data is available on the 2024s for their last year in '19-'20.



New poster. History is important. Through 2026s, the better BLC players moved to Stars in sixth or seventh grade to put them on a path to Capital. Other players moved to Pride and MD teams. These defections would cause the remaining BLC teams to struggle in seventh and eighth grade.

The BLC 27s were different. They stuck together and stayed with the club, and they were good (ranked #7 as people have noted). Just before their 8th grade year, Capital announced a partnership with BLC in 2022 to entice them to stay and try out for Capital the following year. It worked - half of the 2027s made the Capital 2027 team.

The 2028s were never as good as the 2027s — they didn’t have the depth, and the better players fled early on MD teams. But the 2029s are ranked #20 and the 2030s are ranked #16. These two years indicate the pipeline BLC now has with Capital is working. Fewer players are leaving the club in search of other teams. A strong argument can be made that the trajectory of BLC is the best it’s been in recent years.



A new, rational, and articulate poster. Welcome. That history helps, and may square the PP's perception that BLC had top 20 caliber teams, with the subsequent posters references to the cold, hard facts of their 8th grade rankings. Hope BLC can establish a track record more in line with the 2027s and 2029's current performance. The more strong DC area teams, the better.


History shows there is rarely a sizable drop off in performance (shy of a major talent loss, as seen with the BLC 2028s). Other years - across all DMV teams - any movement in rankings typically doesn't change any more than ~20% year-to-year (+/-). This bodes very well for the future of BLC, as the club's 2029s and 2030s are already top 20 teams.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 13:53     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:NL has a very solid ‘29 team. What is happening with that program? Thought 2028 looked promising and almost moved my daughter there (mid-level player).


They are dreadful. It’s a shame.


0 recruiting history. 27 team was actually decent and a solid 'B' team with a few but their best players made the jump to Capital for high school, if they didn't jump to other clubs before that. I expect the same to happen with other teams.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 13:39     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


BLC through 8th grade for 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2029 were / are top 20 teams (some notably higher, like 2027 BLC, which was a top ten team). BLC 2028 is an off year. The point about BLC being on the “high 60s to 80s” is way off.


Respectfully, you may want to check the data again on the top 20 teams. Please let us know if you have a better source for current and historic rankings than usclublax.com. That said, you were right, I was way off. BLC has averaged a ranking of 103.8, not 60s-80, in their 8th grade year over the 5 teams where we have data.

--For the 2025s, you are right, I was too optimistic. BLC 2025 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('20-'21) ranked 221st. That's 221, not 21. I misread their US Club Lax "rating" (76) as their "ranking", as I didn't expect them to be that far down.

--BLC 2026 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('21-'22) ranked 77th.

--The very strong 2027 team was acknowledged in the original post (finished 7th in '22-'23). Some great players in that group.

--2028s are currently ranked 201.

--2029s not even in 8th grade yet, but are currently ranked 20th.

Averaging the ratings--2025 (221); 2026 (77); 2027 (7); 2028 (201); and for fairness 2029 (20)--results in an average of 103.8.

**No data is available on the 2024s for their last year in '19-'20.



New poster. History is important. Through 2026s, the better BLC players moved to Stars in sixth or seventh grade to put them on a path to Capital. Other players moved to Pride and MD teams. These defections would cause the remaining BLC teams to struggle in seventh and eighth grade.

The BLC 27s were different. They stuck together and stayed with the club, and they were good (ranked #7 as people have noted). Just before their 8th grade year, Capital announced a partnership with BLC in 2022 to entice them to stay and try out for Capital the following year. It worked - half of the 2027s made the Capital 2027 team.

The 2028s were never as good as the 2027s — they didn’t have the depth, and the better players fled early on MD teams. But the 2029s are ranked #20 and the 2030s are ranked #16. These two years indicate the pipeline BLC now has with Capital is working. Fewer players are leaving the club in search of other teams. A strong argument can be made that the trajectory of BLC is the best it’s been in recent years.



A new, rational, and articulate poster. Welcome. That history helps, and may square the PP's perception that BLC had top 20 caliber teams, with the subsequent posters references to the cold, hard facts of their 8th grade rankings. Hope BLC can establish a track record more in line with the 2027s and 2029's current performance. The more strong DC area teams, the better.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 12:25     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

Agree with the above regarding BLC. I'll add Stars has a pipeline to Capital as well. It is worth considering a move to one of these two prior to eighth grade. Seems Pride leadership never wanted, or more likely, never received the Capital pipeline offer given they have their own high school program. They will continue to hemorrhage their best players to Capital making their high school teams much weaker than their middle school teams. Not sure Pride really cares as long as they can field teams and collect $$$.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 12:08     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


BLC through 8th grade for 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2029 were / are top 20 teams (some notably higher, like 2027 BLC, which was a top ten team). BLC 2028 is an off year. The point about BLC being on the “high 60s to 80s” is way off.


Respectfully, you may want to check the data again on the top 20 teams. Please let us know if you have a better source for current and historic rankings than usclublax.com. That said, you were right, I was way off. BLC has averaged a ranking of 103.8, not 60s-80, in their 8th grade year over the 5 teams where we have data.

--For the 2025s, you are right, I was too optimistic. BLC 2025 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('20-'21) ranked 221st. That's 221, not 21. I misread their US Club Lax "rating" (76) as their "ranking", as I didn't expect them to be that far down.

--BLC 2026 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('21-'22) ranked 77th.

--The very strong 2027 team was acknowledged in the original post (finished 7th in '22-'23). Some great players in that group.

--2028s are currently ranked 201.

--2029s not even in 8th grade yet, but are currently ranked 20th.

Averaging the ratings--2025 (221); 2026 (77); 2027 (7); 2028 (201); and for fairness 2029 (20)--results in an average of 103.8.

**No data is available on the 2024s for their last year in '19-'20.



New poster. History is important. Through 2026s, the better BLC players moved to Stars in sixth or seventh grade to put them on a path to Capital. Other players moved to Pride and MD teams. These defections would cause the remaining BLC teams to struggle in seventh and eighth grade.

The BLC 27s were different. They stuck together and stayed with the club, and they were good (ranked #7 as people have noted). Just before their 8th grade year, Capital announced a partnership with BLC in 2022 to entice them to stay and try out for Capital the following year. It worked - half of the 2027s made the Capital 2027 team.

The 2028s were never as good as the 2027s — they didn’t have the depth, and the better players fled early on MD teams. But the 2029s are ranked #20 and the 2030s are ranked #16. These two years indicate the pipeline BLC now has with Capital is working. Fewer players are leaving the club in search of other teams. A strong argument can be made that the trajectory of BLC is the best it’s been in recent years.

Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 11:29     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


I’m sorry, I have a 2031 girl and I am new to this. Trying to understand what happens next so this is all very interesting. I don’t think the rankings of the clubs are very consistent as you get younger but maybe it’s too soon to tell, or maybe a bunch of our teammates will be playing in Baltimore within the next few years. In any case thank you for the information.


If I am a 2031 parent of a strong player in NoVa I am putting them in either Pride or Stars. Pride seems to develop great girls that make Capital at 9th grade. Stars has a Capital connection and girls that you don't think should make it sometimes do if they come from Stars.

If you are from MoCo I am putting them in BLC and seeing how they do, meaning if they are performing well and start ranking in top 25...good...stay and try out for Capital in 9th. If not go to Hero's ASAP. And no I am not the ex BLC Hero's parent. I have high school girls that thankfully made Capital but I still wonder if going to Heros in middle school would have developed them better by now. Playing with the same girls etc from middle school thru high school has benefits.


Thanks, for the 2030s YJMA is the top local team, but maybe that’s just a one year anomaly. We are at BLC 2031 and that seems to be a good home at least through middle school though I guess that means we will have to try out for Capital or another team by high school.


I have heard good things about YJMA and the 2025 team has had good success getting kids recruited. I do think the 2030 team is an anomoly because they were looking for a home and already together but you never know YJMA may end up being a great place to go from elementary through high school as well.


I can’t figure out that club. Good recruitments for the 24 and 25 class, very strong 30 team, but classes in between seem to be not strong at all. Are they a Virginia club and are they up and coming or just inconsistent / mediocre?
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Post 01/17/2024 10:20     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


I’m sorry, I have a 2031 girl and I am new to this. Trying to understand what happens next so this is all very interesting. I don’t think the rankings of the clubs are very consistent as you get younger but maybe it’s too soon to tell, or maybe a bunch of our teammates will be playing in Baltimore within the next few years. In any case thank you for the information.


If I am a 2031 parent of a strong player in NoVa I am putting them in either Pride or Stars. Pride seems to develop great girls that make Capital at 9th grade. Stars has a Capital connection and girls that you don't think should make it sometimes do if they come from Stars.

If you are from MoCo I am putting them in BLC and seeing how they do, meaning if they are performing well and start ranking in top 25...good...stay and try out for Capital in 9th. If not go to Hero's ASAP. And no I am not the ex BLC Hero's parent. I have high school girls that thankfully made Capital but I still wonder if going to Heros in middle school would have developed them better by now. Playing with the same girls etc from middle school thru high school has benefits.


Thanks, for the 2030s YJMA is the top local team, but maybe that’s just a one year anomaly. We are at BLC 2031 and that seems to be a good home at least through middle school though I guess that means we will have to try out for Capital or another team by high school.


I have heard good things about YJMA and the 2025 team has had good success getting kids recruited. I do think the 2030 team is an anomoly because they were looking for a home and already together but you never know YJMA may end up being a great place to go from elementary through high school as well.
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Post 01/17/2024 08:59     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

Anonymous wrote:NL has a very solid ‘29 team. What is happening with that program? Thought 2028 looked promising and almost moved my daughter there (mid-level player).


They are dreadful. It’s a shame.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 00:05     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


BLC through 8th grade for 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2029 were / are top 20 teams (some notably higher, like 2027 BLC, which was a top ten team). BLC 2028 is an off year. The point about BLC being on the “high 60s to 80s” is way off.


Respectfully, you may want to check the data again on the top 20 teams. Please let us know if you have a better source for current and historic rankings than usclublax.com. That said, you were right, I was way off. BLC has averaged a ranking of 103.8, not 60s-80, in their 8th grade year over the 5 teams where we have data.

--For the 2025s, you are right, I was too optimistic. BLC 2025 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('20-'21) ranked 221st. That's 221, not 21. I misread their US Club Lax "rating" (76) as their "ranking", as I didn't expect them to be that far down.

--BLC 2026 Blue finished their 8th Grade season ('21-'22) ranked 77th.

--The very strong 2027 team was acknowledged in the original post (finished 7th in '22-'23). Some great players in that group.

--2028s are currently ranked 201.

--2029s not even in 8th grade yet, but are currently ranked 20th.

Averaging the ratings--2025 (221); 2026 (77); 2027 (7); 2028 (201); and for fairness 2029 (20)--results in an average of 103.8.

**No data is available on the 2024s for their last year in '19-'20.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 22:07     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

NL has a very solid ‘29 team. What is happening with that program? Thought 2028 looked promising and almost moved my daughter there (mid-level player).
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 21:58     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


BLC through 8th grade for 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2029 were / are top 20 teams (some notably higher, like 2027 BLC, which was a top ten team). BLC 2028 is an off year. The point about BLC being on the “high 60s to 80s” is way off.
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Post 01/16/2024 21:42     Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if they are DC based?! DMV girls play there so it should be discussed.

Not sure why there are people who care so much about talking about "Baltimore" clubs here! Every parent with a strong player has at one point considered the drive, therefore it is clearly noteworthy here on this forum.


Is the answer no, there are no local 2028 teams that are highly ranked?


I appreciate that you are probably trolling, but if not and are genuinely curious then this is the place for all of your rankings questions -> https://www.usclublax.com/rank?v=2028&alpha=N&y=2023.


Updated link - https://www.usclublax.com/rankings?year=2023


Thanks. It looks like other years currently have top 20 rankings for local teams. It’s a bummer so many talented 2028s moved to Baltimore rather than concentrate on one team locally.


I can't believe I am having to defend Pride here, but as someone noted, Pride is ranked #14 and is a local team.


Interesting, thanks. So Pride is where the 2028 talent is locally concentrated then. It doesn’t look like Pride is as highly ranked for other years but they must have the top local 2028s given the huge gap in rankings.


You either are very new or trolling. Assuming the former, and being friendly, the concentration of local talent occurs in 9th grade at Capital Lacrosse Club. You will note that Capital is #1 for 2025s; #9 for 2026s; and #16 for their new team, the 2027s.

Pride is generally the top local club in rankings through 8th grade (exceptions including 2027 BLC, and 2026 Stars), and the club average a top 15 ranking until 9th grade when many top area players consolidate at Capital. St James-owned Stars is typically the 2nd highest ranked local club through 8th grade (top 40 every year). The MOCO teams, BLC, NL, and MC Elite were traditionally in the high 60s to 80s in the rankings, but BLC and MC Elite has dropped off this year. Hope that helps.


I’m sorry, I have a 2031 girl and I am new to this. Trying to understand what happens next so this is all very interesting. I don’t think the rankings of the clubs are very consistent as you get younger but maybe it’s too soon to tell, or maybe a bunch of our teammates will be playing in Baltimore within the next few years. In any case thank you for the information.


If I am a 2031 parent of a strong player in NoVa I am putting them in either Pride or Stars. Pride seems to develop great girls that make Capital at 9th grade. Stars has a Capital connection and girls that you don't think should make it sometimes do if they come from Stars.

If you are from MoCo I am putting them in BLC and seeing how they do, meaning if they are performing well and start ranking in top 25...good...stay and try out for Capital in 9th. If not go to Hero's ASAP. And no I am not the ex BLC Hero's parent. I have high school girls that thankfully made Capital but I still wonder if going to Heros in middle school would have developed them better by now. Playing with the same girls etc from middle school thru high school has benefits.


Very reasonable and intelligent post.