Anonymous
08/16/2023 10:55
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
I guess this could work for Meadows and Trump (sorry Rudy). But as a taxpayer I'd feel pretty insulted if the judge determines that helping Trump overturn the election was part of their official duties.
OMG this. And FWIW I think courts have already determined that this was not part of Lindsey Graham’s official duties because he challenged the subpoena he got in this case.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 10:48
Subject: GA Case
is Meadows trying to roll his plea deal with Smith by getting his case at the fed level? or does he know federal prison is a lot better than state pen?
Anonymous
08/16/2023 10:37
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
There is no legal basis for granting this.
Well, Meadows actually was a federal officer at the time of the alleged activity. It's not a slam dunk, but he does have grounds.
However, not sure it would even make a difference. The Atlanta federal courthouse still pulls from the Atlanta metro.
I agree he has some chance of winning this, as does Trump. Just don’t see how it helps them. Same law, same prosecutor, and essentially the same jury pool. Crapshoot on whether the judge is better or not. And more than likely the case goes much faster, which Trump seems to really want to avoid.
It's not the same jury pool though. A state trial would have jurors from only Fulton County. A federal trial would have jurors from the entire northwest corner of the state (including Marjorie Taylor Greene's district)
No it wouldn’t. This would end up in the Atlanta division of the NDGA and would therefore draw mostly from the Atlanta area.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 10:26
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
Hoping for a pardon?
It still would not be eligible for a federal pardon. It would be considered a state law conviction.
I’m kind of surprised they’re doing this. GA RICO cases in Fulton county are notorious for taking forever to try. There’s a case now that is in its sixth month of jury selection. The GA case won’t make it to trial for years. If Meadows and Trump get their cases removed, they might actually go to trial early next year.
While no TV. If this trial is televised it will be very bad for the republicans(DOJ).
Anonymous
08/16/2023 10:24
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
The big thing I take away is a lot of these conspirators will never face justice. This GA case is just one state. These people were active in multiple states and yet no federal charges? Meadows, Eastman, Cruz, Graham, all the staff of these people, etc? Guess planning and implementation of a coup is not against federal law?
Democrats should take note, if Trump wins.
Yep Kamala Harris can decertify the election results. It is good to know we have that in our bag of tricks.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 10:15
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fani Willis wants all criminally indicted individuals to surrender for arrest and booking by noon on Friday.
Friday, August 25. They have almost two weeks to surrender.
Trump is in a permanent cold sweat and don't be surprised if, on Aug. 25, he doesn't show up because he is seeking political asylum in Dubai.
While I would prefer to see him have to sit his butt in the courtroom(s) for all of his multiple trials and, ultimately, have to live out the rest of his life in prison, him fleeing in absolute cowardice would be a nice treat, too, if only for the joy of watching his equally cowardly followers explain how that action would be an action of strength.
Exactly. I definitely would prefer a trial and prison within the US system, but also... if he just disappears into Dubai or Moscow or wherever... that wouldn't be a totally bad outcome. We desperately just need to be done with him.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 09:58
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
There is no legal basis for granting this.
Well, Meadows actually was a federal officer at the time of the alleged activity. It's not a slam dunk, but he does have grounds.
However, not sure it would even make a difference. The Atlanta federal courthouse still pulls from the Atlanta metro.
I agree he has some chance of winning this, as does Trump. Just don’t see how it helps them. Same law, same prosecutor, and essentially the same jury pool. Crapshoot on whether the judge is better or not. And more than likely the case goes much faster, which Trump seems to really want to avoid.
It's not the same jury pool though. A state trial would have jurors from only Fulton County. A federal trial would have jurors from the entire northwest corner of the state (including Marjorie Taylor Greene's district)
Anonymous
08/16/2023 09:21
Subject: GA Case
^ remember that Meadows is called "the rat" by the Trump campaign. There's no love lost here.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 09:20
Subject: GA Case
I don't think Meadows has Trump's best interest in mind. He's only indicted on 2 charges. He's going to sing. He wants a quick trial to get Trump out of the way.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 09:14
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
There is no legal basis for granting this.
Well, Meadows actually was a federal officer at the time of the alleged activity. It's not a slam dunk, but he does have grounds.
However, not sure it would even make a difference. The Atlanta federal courthouse still pulls from the Atlanta metro.
I agree he has some chance of winning this, as does Trump. Just don’t see how it helps them. Same law, same prosecutor, and essentially the same jury pool. Crapshoot on whether the judge is better or not. And more than likely the case goes much faster, which Trump seems to really want to avoid.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 09:07
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
There is no legal basis for granting this.
Well, Meadows actually was a federal officer at the time of the alleged activity. It's not a slam dunk, but he does have grounds.
However, not sure it would even make a difference. The Atlanta federal courthouse still pulls from the Atlanta metro.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 09:03
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
My understanding is the law in question only changes the venue to a federal district court, but the jurisprudence remains the State of Georgia.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 08:53
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
There is no legal basis for granting this.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 08:44
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
Hoping for a pardon?
It still would not be eligible for a federal pardon. It would be considered a state law conviction.
I’m kind of surprised they’re doing this. GA RICO cases in Fulton county are notorious for taking forever to try. There’s a case now that is in its sixth month of jury selection. The GA case won’t make it to trial for years. If Meadows and Trump get their cases removed, they might actually go to trial early next year.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 08:35
Subject: GA Case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meadows is trying to get the case moved to federal court. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/mark-meadows-fulton-case-federal-court/index.html
The big thing I take away is a lot of these conspirators will never face justice. This GA case is just one state. These people were active in multiple states and yet no federal charges? Meadows, Eastman, Cruz, Graham, all the staff of these people, etc? Guess planning and implementation of a coup is not against federal law?
Democrats should take note, if Trump wins.