Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.
You’re blinded by hindsight.
It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.
Bullying others was not reasonable.
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are missing the difference between correlation and causation. There is a correlation between wanting school open and some of these more conservative beliefs. But one does not cause the other. Society did a weird split over Covid, with both sides being stupid in different ways. Rs were stupid about vaccines and masks. Ds were stupid about closing schools and society way too long and way past when the evidence supported it. Move on!
I don't think we're missing anything. Who said anything about causation? The entire article is about the CORRELATION between the nutty anti LGBTQ set and the nutty open schools set.
You are implying that her wanting schools open means she associates with these views. That's not the case.
She DID and DOES associate with people with these views in her APE group. Hilarious to see y'all doing gymnastics to run away from that. There's a job for you on the Trump team.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Are you? Maybe you are employed by the campaign. Because your full time job seems to be to defend Miranda with questionable grounding in reality.
An irrational bully. Smells like APE to me.
Have you ever stopped to consider how antagonistic and aggressive you are? You are acting like a bully.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Are you? Maybe you are employed by the campaign. Because your full time job seems to be to defend Miranda with questionable grounding in reality.
An irrational bully. Smells like APE to me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Are you? Maybe you are employed by the campaign. Because your full time job seems to be to defend Miranda with questionable grounding in reality.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are missing the difference between correlation and causation. There is a correlation between wanting school open and some of these more conservative beliefs. But one does not cause the other. Society did a weird split over Covid, with both sides being stupid in different ways. Rs were stupid about vaccines and masks. Ds were stupid about closing schools and society way too long and way past when the evidence supported it. Move on!
I don't think we're missing anything. Who said anything about causation? The entire article is about the CORRELATION between the nutty anti LGBTQ set and the nutty open schools set.
You are implying that her wanting schools open means she associates with these views. That's not the case.
She DID and DOES associate with people with these views in her APE group. Hilarious to see y'all doing gymnastics to run away from that. There's a job for you on the Trump team.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Well if a busy law-firm partner can find time to be on the SB, I can somehow find time to occasionally post on DCUM.![]()
I never said she holds those views. I said I’m concerned that she partnered with people who do. For years.
And maybe you are confusing posters - I didn’t post the NYT link or most of the other anti-APE posts.
MANY people don’t like that group.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are missing the difference between correlation and causation. There is a correlation between wanting school open and some of these more conservative beliefs. But one does not cause the other. Society did a weird split over Covid, with both sides being stupid in different ways. Rs were stupid about vaccines and masks. Ds were stupid about closing schools and society way too long and way past when the evidence supported it. Move on!
I don't think we're missing anything. Who said anything about causation? The entire article is about the CORRELATION between the nutty anti LGBTQ set and the nutty open schools set.
You are implying that her wanting schools open means she associates with these views. That's not the case.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Well if a busy law-firm partner can find time to be on the SB, I can somehow find time to occasionally post on DCUM.![]()
I never said she holds those views. I said I’m concerned that she partnered with people who do. For years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw
You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.
--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility
Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.
Exactly. CHOOSING to partner with these people for years? At best, that shows bad judgment. At worst…
Either way, hard pass.
Are you employed? You seem to sit on this board at all hours waiting to express your dislike of MT. We know she's a hard pass for you. You've said it several times.
I think it's very disturbing that you think a NYT article proves that MT is anti-LGBTQ and that she's harboring her right wing views until she's elected. I don't write on this board often, I just want to say that this is very illogical and I'd like to kindly suggest you settle down.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are missing the difference between correlation and causation. There is a correlation between wanting school open and some of these more conservative beliefs. But one does not cause the other. Society did a weird split over Covid, with both sides being stupid in different ways. Rs were stupid about vaccines and masks. Ds were stupid about closing schools and society way too long and way past when the evidence supported it. Move on!
I don't think we're missing anything. Who said anything about causation? The entire article is about the CORRELATION between the nutty anti LGBTQ set and the nutty open schools set.