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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

Why does anyone need a metric? A lot of people like the guy. He talks and listens to parents. Reading instruction is finally going in the right direction after years of advocacy. A lot of things are going in a good direction in APS compared to the Murphy years.

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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

Why does anyone need a metric? A lot of people like the guy. He talks and listens to parents. Reading instruction is finally going in the right direction after years of advocacy. A lot of things are going in a good direction in APS compared to the Murphy years.

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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

I mean, maybe try to let this go. His contract was renewed. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Anonymous wrote:They explained that- it’s always renewed one year before contract expires to give them time to search for a new superintendent if they don’t renew.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.

I don't understand why the issues listed are racist if they come from a white middle class person? And they wouldn't be if they came from a poor minority? Would they be racist if it were from a wealthy minority? I'm honestly not understanding what difference it makes when the poster was listing general issues in south Arlington, as was asked for.

I wouldn't call it racist but it is always telling when the white upper SES set in S. Arlington complain about schools that are too "segregated" or have too high of a FARMs rate. They don't think their white high SES kids are getting the educational experience they deserve in schools that are too poor or too brown. And perhaps they are right. But it's quite different than hearing this from the brown low SES families themselves, which you almost never do. In fact, those families have vocally opposed plans to split up their school communities and bus them elsewhere to balance FARMs numbers.

NP, and I don’t know what point you are trying to make. Brown and poor people want their kids in neighborhood schools, too. They might not see any issue with their school spending all of its resources on remedial or ESL instruction if it directly benefits them. In fact, they might prefer it if their kids were with others in their community in a similar boat instead of feeling “less than” among kids who have a lot more resources than they do. They may not know nor care what the research says about economic mobility and role models and all that, and prefer community instead. That’s fine, it’s their right to want that. I want that for my kids.

But the parent with a student who does not need such services, or perhaps needs different services that are being neglected to serve the overwhelming need, might have an issue with sending their kid to a school with a high FARMs rate. Doesn’t make them racists for wanting their kids to go somewhere their needs might stand a chance of being addressed. Schools aren’t a welfare program. The rich kid who can afford to go elsewhere is just as entitled to a free and appropriate public education as the poor kid.

You can close an achievement gap two ways. I prefer the way that brings up the bottom rather than lowering the top.

The issue is when the parents of the white rich kids in the Title 1 school want to bus half the brown/low SES kids out of their school. Who does that benefit?

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.

I don't understand why the issues listed are racist if they come from a white middle class person? And they wouldn't be if they came from a poor minority? Would they be racist if it were from a wealthy minority? I'm honestly not understanding what difference it makes when the poster was listing general issues in south Arlington, as was asked for.

I wouldn't call it racist but it is always telling when the white upper SES set in S. Arlington complain about schools that are too "segregated" or have too high of a FARMs rate. They don't think their white high SES kids are getting the educational experience they deserve in schools that are too poor or too brown. And perhaps they are right. But it's quite different than hearing this from the brown low SES families themselves, which you almost never do. In fact, those families have vocally opposed plans to split up their school communities and bus them elsewhere to balance FARMs numbers.

NP, and I don’t know what point you are trying to make. Brown and poor people want their kids in neighborhood schools, too. They might not see any issue with their school spending all of its resources on remedial or ESL instruction if it directly benefits them. In fact, they might prefer it if their kids were with others in their community in a similar boat instead of feeling “less than” among kids who have a lot more resources than they do. They may not know nor care what the research says about economic mobility and role models and all that, and prefer community instead. That’s fine, it’s their right to want that. I want that for my kids.

But the parent with a student who does not need such services, or perhaps needs different services that are being neglected to serve the overwhelming need, might have an issue with sending their kid to a school with a high FARMs rate. Doesn’t make them racists for wanting their kids to go somewhere their needs might stand a chance of being addressed. Schools aren’t a welfare program. The rich kid who can afford to go elsewhere is just as entitled to a free and appropriate public education as the poor kid.

You can close an achievement gap two ways. I prefer the way that brings up the bottom rather than lowering the top.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.

I don't understand why the issues listed are racist if they come from a white middle class person? And they wouldn't be if they came from a poor minority? Would they be racist if it were from a wealthy minority? I'm honestly not understanding what difference it makes when the poster was listing general issues in south Arlington, as was asked for.

I wouldn't call it racist but it is always telling when the white upper SES set in S. Arlington complain about schools that are too "segregated" or have too high of a FARMs rate. They don't think their white high SES kids are getting the educational experience they deserve in schools that are too poor or too brown. And perhaps they are right. But it's quite different than hearing this from the brown low SES families themselves, which you almost never do. In fact, those families have vocally opposed plans to split up their school communities and bus them elsewhere to balance FARMs numbers.

NP, and I don’t know what point you are trying to make. Brown and poor people want their kids in neighborhood schools, too. They might not see any issue with their school spending all of its resources on remedial or ESL instruction if it directly benefits them. In fact, they might prefer it if their kids were with others in their community in a similar boat instead of feeling “less than” among kids who have a lot more resources than they do. They may not know nor care what the research says about economic mobility and role models and all that, and prefer community instead. That’s fine, it’s their right to want that. I want that for my kids.

But the parent with a student who does not need such services, or perhaps needs different services that are being neglected to serve the overwhelming need, might have an issue with sending their kid to a school with a high FARMs rate. Doesn’t make them racists for wanting their kids to go somewhere their needs might stand a chance of being addressed. Schools aren’t a welfare program. The rich kid who can afford to go elsewhere is just as entitled to a free and appropriate public education as the poor kid.

You can close an achievement gap two ways. I prefer the way that brings up the bottom rather than lowering the top.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.

I don't understand why the issues listed are racist if they come from a white middle class person? And they wouldn't be if they came from a poor minority? Would they be racist if it were from a wealthy minority? I'm honestly not understanding what difference it makes when the poster was listing general issues in south Arlington, as was asked for.

I wouldn't call it racist but it is always telling when the white upper SES set in S. Arlington complain about schools that are too "segregated" or have too high of a FARMs rate. They don't think their white high SES kids are getting the educational experience they deserve in schools that are too poor or too brown. And perhaps they are right. But it's quite different than hearing this from the brown low SES families themselves, which you almost never do. In fact, those families have vocally opposed plans to split up their school communities and bus them elsewhere to balance FARMs numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.

I don't understand why the issues listed are racist if they come from a white middle class person? And they wouldn't be if they came from a poor minority? Would they be racist if it were from a wealthy minority? I'm honestly not understanding what difference it makes when the poster was listing general issues in south Arlington, as was asked for.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.