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Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

Putting this out there as it caught my attention. I don't know enough about this topic to opine, but I'd welcome any knowledgeable comments.

"Inexperience among producers: The low barrier to entry in producing for streamers who pay production costs upfront has allowed smaller companies and startups to attempt large-scale productions without adequate staff, skills or equipment. Among the seven production entities listed as backing “Rust” was Streamline Global, a company founded in 2017 to use films produced with production tax incentives as vehicles to create tax breaks for wealthy investors. Streamline Global co-founders Emily Hunter Salveson and Ryan Donnell Smith serve as executive producer and producer, respectively, on “Rust.” Industry sources cite inherent problems that can occur when goals and incentives among producers are not aligned.

“We have developed new financial models to attract capital that would otherwise be unavailable to the film industry,” Salveson told Variety in 2017. “Films are the byproduct of the comprehensive tax planning strategies we employ for our clients.”"

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/rust-halyna-hutchins-death-alec-baldwin-production-1235096161/

This is all good and wonderful but even when I did shows for Disney Plus and Amazon Prime, the actual film was set up under XYZ Productions. And to further muddy the waters, we're always considered employed by the payroll company (Cast and Crew or Entertainment Partners), not the producing company of the show.

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Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

This was an independent film, low budget. It seems apparent that a lot of corners were cut.

It surprises me that Alec Baldwin was associated with a low budget film like this. Yes, he's had problems in the past with anger management, etc., but he's still an A-list actor with an Emmy (or more than one Emmy I think?) to his name. Why would he associate himself or even be a producer on something so low budget and seemingly amateur? It's surprising that an actor of his caliber would even be involved with a production that didn't have similar A-list talent working on set. Surely he could afford to hire the best armorer money and name recognition can buy instead of relying on a 24 yr old amateur that put the entire crew's life at risk.

I’m surprised he was working on this too. Maybe he had something in a contract he had to fulfill? I have no idea. Maybe he needed the work?

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Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

Putting this out there as it caught my attention. I don't know enough about this topic to opine, but I'd welcome any knowledgeable comments.

"Inexperience among producers: The low barrier to entry in producing for streamers who pay production costs upfront has allowed smaller companies and startups to attempt large-scale productions without adequate staff, skills or equipment. Among the seven production entities listed as backing “Rust” was Streamline Global, a company founded in 2017 to use films produced with production tax incentives as vehicles to create tax breaks for wealthy investors. Streamline Global co-founders Emily Hunter Salveson and Ryan Donnell Smith serve as executive producer and producer, respectively, on “Rust.” Industry sources cite inherent problems that can occur when goals and incentives among producers are not aligned.

“We have developed new financial models to attract capital that would otherwise be unavailable to the film industry,” Salveson told Variety in 2017. “Films are the byproduct of the comprehensive tax planning strategies we employ for our clients.”"

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/rust-halyna-hutchins-death-alec-baldwin-production-1235096161/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

This was an independent film, low budget. It seems apparent that a lot of corners were cut.

It surprises me that Alec Baldwin was associated with a low budget film like this. Yes, he's had problems in the past with anger management, etc., but he's still an A-list actor with an Emmy (or more than one Emmy I think?) to his name. Why would he associate himself or even be a producer on something so low budget and seemingly amateur? It's surprising that an actor of his caliber would even be involved with a production that didn't have similar A-list talent working on set. Surely he could afford to hire the best armorer money and name recognition can buy instead of relying on a 24 yr old amateur that put the entire crew's life at risk.

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

This was an independent film, low budget. It seems apparent that a lot of corners were cut.

It surprises me that Alec Baldwin was associated with a low budget film like this. Yes, he's had problems in the past with anger management, etc., but he's still an A-list actor with an Emmy (or more than one Emmy I think?) to his name. Why would he associate himself or even be a producer on something so low budget and seemingly amateur? It's surprising that an actor of his caliber would even be involved with a production that didn't have similar A-list talent working on set. Surely he could afford to hire the best armorer money and name recognition can buy instead of relying on a 24 yr old amateur that put the entire crew's life at risk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

This was an independent film, low budget. It seems apparent that a lot of corners were cut.

It surprises me that Alec Baldwin was associated with a low budget film like this. Yes, he's had problems in the past with anger management, etc., but he's still an A-list actor with an Emmy (or more than one Emmy I think?) to his name. Why would he associate himself or even be a producer on something so low budget and seemingly amateur? It's surprising that an actor of his caliber would even be involved with a production that didn't have similar A-list talent working on set. Surely he could afford to hire the best armorer money and name recognition can buy instead of relying on a 24 yr old amateur that put the entire crew's life at risk.

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

This was an independent film, low budget. It seems apparent that a lot of corners were cut.

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?

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Anonymous wrote:Can this be true?

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/gun-fired-alec-baldwin-accidental-death-halyna-hutchins-fired-crew-off-set-fun#&_intcmp=lb_alec-baldwin-'rust'-shooting:-vigils-held,-planned-for-halyna-hutchins:-live-updates_postclickthru_13_article1

Police found a mix of LIVE AMMUNITION and blanks on set.
I just totally can’t fathom this. I’m speechless.
- member of IATSE 20 years in the business

Are you all that surprised when the head armourer is 24 and never worked professionally before? Honestly she probably didn't even know she SHOULD be securing the set ammunition.

Obviously this is a case of malpratice but I'm curious if she'll be charged with negligent homicide.

That shocks me. When I heard about that, I always assumed that it would be retired military or police instructors.

Her father had 40+ years in film production experience as a weapons expert and armourer. He got her the job.

Nepotism. Just want to say, her being 24 isn't an issue. Someone with 5 years in the military may have lots of experience handling weapons and would have been perfectly qualified for the job. The issue is her lack of training and experience. Her dad obviously didn't actually train her.

I disagree on the age. There’s different levels of armourers. I guarantee her father wasn’t HEAD armourer at 24. He worked his way up with skills and experience.

A high performing soldier could be a Staff Sergeant by age 24, in charge of much more than an armorer on a movie set.

Yes after years of formal training. She had none.

Not exactly. She was head armorer on a Nicolas Cage movie prior to Rust.

And it sounds like she really effed that one up too. I doubt she interned under her dad for any significant time period.

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Anonymous wrote:Can this be true?

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/gun-fired-alec-baldwin-accidental-death-halyna-hutchins-fired-crew-off-set-fun#&_intcmp=lb_alec-baldwin-'rust'-shooting:-vigils-held,-planned-for-halyna-hutchins:-live-updates_postclickthru_13_article1

Police found a mix of LIVE AMMUNITION and blanks on set.
I just totally can’t fathom this. I’m speechless.
- member of IATSE 20 years in the business

Are you all that surprised when the head armourer is 24 and never worked professionally before? Honestly she probably didn't even know she SHOULD be securing the set ammunition.

Obviously this is a case of malpratice but I'm curious if she'll be charged with negligent homicide.

That shocks me. When I heard about that, I always assumed that it would be retired military or police instructors.

Her father had 40+ years in film production experience as a weapons expert and armourer. He got her the job.

Nepotism. Just want to say, her being 24 isn't an issue. Someone with 5 years in the military may have lots of experience handling weapons and would have been perfectly qualified for the job. The issue is her lack of training and experience. Her dad obviously didn't actually train her.

I disagree on the age. There’s different levels of armourers. I guarantee her father wasn’t HEAD armourer at 24. He worked his way up with skills and experience.

A high performing soldier could be a Staff Sergeant by age 24, in charge of much more than an armorer on a movie set.

Yes after years of formal training. She had none.

Not exactly. She was head armorer on a Nicolas Cage movie prior to Rust.

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Anonymous wrote:Can this be true?

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/gun-fired-alec-baldwin-accidental-death-halyna-hutchins-fired-crew-off-set-fun#&_intcmp=lb_alec-baldwin-'rust'-shooting:-vigils-held,-planned-for-halyna-hutchins:-live-updates_postclickthru_13_article1

Police found a mix of LIVE AMMUNITION and blanks on set.
I just totally can’t fathom this. I’m speechless.
- member of IATSE 20 years in the business

Are you all that surprised when the head armourer is 24 and never worked professionally before? Honestly she probably didn't even know she SHOULD be securing the set ammunition.

Obviously this is a case of malpratice but I'm curious if she'll be charged with negligent homicide.

That shocks me. When I heard about that, I always assumed that it would be retired military or police instructors.

Her father had 40+ years in film production experience as a weapons expert and armourer. He got her the job.

Nepotism. Just want to say, her being 24 isn't an issue. Someone with 5 years in the military may have lots of experience handling weapons and would have been perfectly qualified for the job. The issue is her lack of training and experience. Her dad obviously didn't actually train her.

I disagree on the age. There’s different levels of armourers. I guarantee her father wasn’t HEAD armourer at 24. He worked his way up with skills and experience.

A high performing soldier could be a Staff Sergeant by age 24, in charge of much more than an armorer on a movie set.

Yes after years of formal training. She had none.

Not exactly. She was head armorer on a Nicolas Cage movie prior to Rust.

Anonymous wrote:If the movie is a western, presumably there will be lots of guns involved, so I would think the armorer should be an experienced one.

I've seen several references to Rust Movie Productions, LLC. Is it common for each movie production to become a company?