Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:32     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:It’s over for zelensky. No Crimea is not yours and you cannot keep Donbas no matter how many conscripts you send to their deaths.


Can see you are celebrating. Can’t tell which you are happier about Hamas’s victory or Russian victory?


I didn’t mention the barbaric attack on Israel, so I don’t know why you would say such a thing. I supported Ukraine until it became obvious that Zelensky was sacrificing the ukranian nation for goals he could not achieve.

I pray that Israel will be smarter as it weighs and executes the path forward.


Weird and totally wrong take.
Reality: If Zelenskyy doesn't fight, the Ukrainian nation ceases to exist.


DP: why would it cease to exist? I have never heard that even in his dreams Putin wanted to take over the entire region.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:25     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


More and more is coming to light that Russian PMCs were training and equipping Hamas.


We have to think dastardly, as Putin does. What better way to throw the Free World off balance than to stir up trouble around the globe. North Korea ... Iran ... Syria ... this is the playbook. We know the source of all of it -- Russia.


Ukraine must make waves before being put on the backburner. Oh wait it’s already there
I mean, I don’t deny Putin is evil but really let’s not make him bigger than he is
Makes one look funny when they equate Putin with the devil himself or some such in potency
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:21     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Panic in Kiev! Competing with Israel for dollars now.


Why would a bunch of people who want to cut funding to Ukraine's army suddenly jump at the chance of funding Israel's army?


1. There are a whole lot more people in Congress that hold Israeli citizenship than Ukrainian.

2. Israel has a much greater chance of "winning" than Ukraine.


Which congress members are Israeli citizens? Or was this just made up, because I couldn’t find any with a quick search.


9 senators are de facto Israeli citizens




Another anti-Semite that believes being Jewish, a religion, makes you Israeli.

Are Catholics citizens of Rome? Those with Italian ancestry have similar rights but it doesn’t make them citizens.


Yes, being Jew makes you a citizen of Israel. You just have to ask.
Every Jew in the world has the unrestricted right to be an Israeli. It is as simple as just declaring it.


This is such an anti-Semitic view. There is a "right of return" to Israel for people with one Jewish grandparent. In order to become an Israeli citizen, a Jewish person must apply for the right of return and prove their ancestry and religious affiliation. They must physically return to Israel. It is not so simple as "just declaring it".

It is also not different from dozens of other countries that have "citizenship by ancestry" or "citizenship by descent" - Poland, Hungary, Ireland, Mexico, and many others.

The anti-semitism lies in the way people call out only Jews for their suspect loyalties to Israel merely because of their religion. This is what PPs are doing when they suggest that Jews in congress will vote according to Israel's interests.

No one questioned Cruz's loyalty because he was a dual Canadian citizen.

No one questions Michelle Bachmann's loyalty even though she is a US citizen by birth with a second Swiss citizenship which she acquired by declaration under the ancestry pathway.

There are many members of Congress with Irish ancestry, yet no one questions their loyalty - neither to Ireland nor to the Pope if they are catholic. (Well, at least not after JFK.)


If there are American Polish/Hungarian/Irish/Mexican/Swiss Political Action Committees, then I have never heard of them. Further, our politicians don't attend these conferences (if they exist) and pledge their undying support for that country and promising billions in foreign aid. They don't compete with one another to outdo their support for those countries either. They don't make pilgrimages to those countries either.

Its a completely different thing. With Israel, they act like that is their "real" country and being an American is their day job.


Ding ding ding!
To be fair, There are other nations whose members immigrate to the US but their allegiance is to their old countries
I suspect Palestinians are an example
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:18     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


Yes. It's clear that Putin is using his proxy Hamas to stir up trouble in Israel as a way to try to distract world attention from the fight for freedom against tyranny in Ukraine. We must not fall for that trickery!

Just as Russia and Iran are joined at the hip, the war in Ukraine and the fight against Putin's terror in Israel are inextricably linked.


Good lord, you really do think the man is omnipotent.

What about the earthquake in Afghanistan, is that his doing too?


Are you denying the military links between Russia and Iran? Can you not see Putin’s fingerprints literally all over this Hamas operation as a way to destabilize the Middle East?

Russia just supplied ICBMs to North Korea. What next - ICBMs for Iran?

Putin will stop at nothing in his quest for world domination.


"Destabilize" the Middle East?

You're funny.


There is absolutely nothing funny about the destabilization of the Middle East, as the sad events in Israel and Gaza illustrate.

This is but a taste of the terror Putin will unleash - he must be stopped.


You clearly overestimate Putin
He is up to his ears in his own troubles is he not?
Didn’t Ukraine just get a ton of aid?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:17     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:If Ukrainians are intelligent (doubtful, Slavs have middling iq’s) they should realize the US will never help them like they do Israel.

The us sent an aircraft carrier to support Israel

Meanwhile 100x the # of Ukrainians died over a silly intra-Slavic dispute and the us never sent an aircraft carrier

Wake up Ukrainians! Zelenskyy is not your compatriot - he’s selling you out


Some of it has to do with the enemy each respective country is fighting; some of it with the strength of the respective lobbies; last but not least there are different degrees of geopolitics involved
Nothing to do with Zelensky, but yeah Ukraine should take note
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:14     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


Yes. It's clear that Putin is using his proxy Hamas to stir up trouble in Israel as a way to try to distract world attention from the fight for freedom against tyranny in Ukraine. We must not fall for that trickery!

Just as Russia and Iran are joined at the hip, the war in Ukraine and the fight against Putin's terror in Israel are inextricably linked.


Good lord, you really do think the man is omnipotent.

What about the earthquake in Afghanistan, is that his doing too?


Are you denying the military links between Russia and Iran? Can you not see Putin’s fingerprints literally all over this Hamas operation as a way to destabilize the Middle East?

Russia just supplied ICBMs to North Korea. What next - ICBMs for Iran?

Putin will stop at nothing in his quest for world domination.


Dp. He doesn’t have enough resources!
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 17:11     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

If Ukrainians are intelligent (doubtful, Slavs have middling iq’s) they should realize the US will never help them like they do Israel.

The us sent an aircraft carrier to support Israel

Meanwhile 100x the # of Ukrainians died over a silly intra-Slavic dispute and the us never sent an aircraft carrier

Wake up Ukrainians! Zelenskyy is not your compatriot - he’s selling you out
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 16:48     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


Yes. It's clear that Putin is using his proxy Hamas to stir up trouble in Israel as a way to try to distract world attention from the fight for freedom against tyranny in Ukraine. We must not fall for that trickery!

Just as Russia and Iran are joined at the hip, the war in Ukraine and the fight against Putin's terror in Israel are inextricably linked.


Good lord, you really do think the man is omnipotent.

What about the earthquake in Afghanistan, is that his doing too?


Are you denying the military links between Russia and Iran? Can you not see Putin’s fingerprints literally all over this Hamas operation as a way to destabilize the Middle East?

Russia just supplied ICBMs to North Korea. What next - ICBMs for Iran?

Putin will stop at nothing in his quest for world domination.


We were told fight him in the Ukraine or fight him in your country. Conservatives took Putin’s money and sided with Russia. Now we are fighting in Israel.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 16:41     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


Yes. It's clear that Putin is using his proxy Hamas to stir up trouble in Israel as a way to try to distract world attention from the fight for freedom against tyranny in Ukraine. We must not fall for that trickery!

Just as Russia and Iran are joined at the hip, the war in Ukraine and the fight against Putin's terror in Israel are inextricably linked.


Good lord, you really do think the man is omnipotent.

What about the earthquake in Afghanistan, is that his doing too?


Are you denying the military links between Russia and Iran? Can you not see Putin’s fingerprints literally all over this Hamas operation as a way to destabilize the Middle East?

Russia just supplied ICBMs to North Korea. What next - ICBMs for Iran?

Putin will stop at nothing in his quest for world domination.


"Destabilize" the Middle East?

You're funny.


There is absolutely nothing funny about the destabilization of the Middle East, as the sad events in Israel and Gaza illustrate.

This is but a taste of the terror Putin will unleash - he must be stopped.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 12:23     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Panic in Kiev! Competing with Israel for dollars now.


Why would a bunch of people who want to cut funding to Ukraine's army suddenly jump at the chance of funding Israel's army?


1. There are a whole lot more people in Congress that hold Israeli citizenship than Ukrainian.

2. Israel has a much greater chance of "winning" than Ukraine.


Which congress members are Israeli citizens? Or was this just made up, because I couldn’t find any with a quick search.


9 senators are de facto Israeli citizens




Another anti-Semite that believes being Jewish, a religion, makes you Israeli.

Are Catholics citizens of Rome? Those with Italian ancestry have similar rights but it doesn’t make them citizens.


Yes, being Jew makes you a citizen of Israel. You just have to ask.
Every Jew in the world has the unrestricted right to be an Israeli. It is as simple as just declaring it.


This is such an anti-Semitic view. There is a "right of return" to Israel for people with one Jewish grandparent. In order to become an Israeli citizen, a Jewish person must apply for the right of return and prove their ancestry and religious affiliation. They must physically return to Israel. It is not so simple as "just declaring it".

It is also not different from dozens of other countries that have "citizenship by ancestry" or "citizenship by descent" - Poland, Hungary, Ireland, Mexico, and many others.

The anti-semitism lies in the way people call out only Jews for their suspect loyalties to Israel merely because of their religion. This is what PPs are doing when they suggest that Jews in congress will vote according to Israel's interests.

No one questioned Cruz's loyalty because he was a dual Canadian citizen.

No one questions Michelle Bachmann's loyalty even though she is a US citizen by birth with a second Swiss citizenship which she acquired by declaration under the ancestry pathway.

There are many members of Congress with Irish ancestry, yet no one questions their loyalty - neither to Ireland nor to the Pope if they are catholic. (Well, at least not after JFK.)


If there are American Polish/Hungarian/Irish/Mexican/Swiss Political Action Committees, then I have never heard of them. Further, our politicians don't attend these conferences (if they exist) and pledge their undying support for that country and promising billions in foreign aid. They don't compete with one another to outdo their support for those countries either. They don't make pilgrimages to those countries either.

It’s a completely different thing. With Israel, they act like that is their "real" country and being an American is their day job.

+1 I eat lefse at Christmas and decorate under the tree with nisse. I don’t think the US sends any money to Norway.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 12:03     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


Yes. It's clear that Putin is using his proxy Hamas to stir up trouble in Israel as a way to try to distract world attention from the fight for freedom against tyranny in Ukraine. We must not fall for that trickery!

Just as Russia and Iran are joined at the hip, the war in Ukraine and the fight against Putin's terror in Israel are inextricably linked.


Good lord, you really do think the man is omnipotent.

What about the earthquake in Afghanistan, is that his doing too?


Are you denying the military links between Russia and Iran? Can you not see Putin’s fingerprints literally all over this Hamas operation as a way to destabilize the Middle East?

Russia just supplied ICBMs to North Korea. What next - ICBMs for Iran?

Putin will stop at nothing in his quest for world domination.


"Destabilize" the Middle East?

You're funny.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 11:42     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Panic in Kiev! Competing with Israel for dollars now.


Why would a bunch of people who want to cut funding to Ukraine's army suddenly jump at the chance of funding Israel's army?


1. There are a whole lot more people in Congress that hold Israeli citizenship than Ukrainian.

2. Israel has a much greater chance of "winning" than Ukraine.


Which congress members are Israeli citizens? Or was this just made up, because I couldn’t find any with a quick search.


9 senators are de facto Israeli citizens




Another anti-Semite that believes being Jewish, a religion, makes you Israeli.

Are Catholics citizens of Rome? Those with Italian ancestry have similar rights but it doesn’t make them citizens.


Yes, being Jew makes you a citizen of Israel. You just have to ask.
Every Jew in the world has the unrestricted right to be an Israeli. It is as simple as just declaring it.


This is such an anti-Semitic view. There is a "right of return" to Israel for people with one Jewish grandparent. In order to become an Israeli citizen, a Jewish person must apply for the right of return and prove their ancestry and religious affiliation. They must physically return to Israel. It is not so simple as "just declaring it".

It is also not different from dozens of other countries that have "citizenship by ancestry" or "citizenship by descent" - Poland, Hungary, Ireland, Mexico, and many others.

The anti-semitism lies in the way people call out only Jews for their suspect loyalties to Israel merely because of their religion. This is what PPs are doing when they suggest that Jews in congress will vote according to Israel's interests.

No one questioned Cruz's loyalty because he was a dual Canadian citizen.

No one questions Michelle Bachmann's loyalty even though she is a US citizen by birth with a second Swiss citizenship which she acquired by declaration under the ancestry pathway.

There are many members of Congress with Irish ancestry, yet no one questions their loyalty - neither to Ireland nor to the Pope if they are catholic. (Well, at least not after JFK.)


If there are American Polish/Hungarian/Irish/Mexican/Swiss Political Action Committees, then I have never heard of them. Further, our politicians don't attend these conferences (if they exist) and pledge their undying support for that country and promising billions in foreign aid. They don't compete with one another to outdo their support for those countries either. They don't make pilgrimages to those countries either.

Its a completely different thing. With Israel, they act like that is their "real" country and being an American is their day job.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 11:31     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The second front in the way against tyranny has just opened in Israel. Putin and his minions are sowing violence and illegal invasions all across the globe. Russia must be defeated along with their proxy Hamas.


Yes. It's clear that Putin is using his proxy Hamas to stir up trouble in Israel as a way to try to distract world attention from the fight for freedom against tyranny in Ukraine. We must not fall for that trickery!

Just as Russia and Iran are joined at the hip, the war in Ukraine and the fight against Putin's terror in Israel are inextricably linked.


Good lord, you really do think the man is omnipotent.

What about the earthquake in Afghanistan, is that his doing too?


Are you denying the military links between Russia and Iran? Can you not see Putin’s fingerprints literally all over this Hamas operation as a way to destabilize the Middle East?

Russia just supplied ICBMs to North Korea. What next - ICBMs for Iran?

Putin will stop at nothing in his quest for world domination.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 11:29     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s over for zelensky. No Crimea is not yours and you cannot keep Donbas no matter how many conscripts you send to their deaths.


Can see you are celebrating. Can’t tell which you are happier about Hamas’s victory or Russian victory?


I didn’t mention the barbaric attack on Israel, so I don’t know why you would say such a thing. I supported Ukraine until it became obvious that Zelensky was sacrificing the ukranian nation for goals he could not achieve.

I pray that Israel will be smarter as it weighs and executes the path forward.


Weird and totally wrong take.
Reality: If Zelenskyy doesn't fight, the Ukrainian nation ceases to exist.


What's with the double yy? It's like a Tiphannie of Eastern Europe.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 11:11     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Panic in Kiev! Competing with Israel for dollars now.


Why would a bunch of people who want to cut funding to Ukraine's army suddenly jump at the chance of funding Israel's army?


1. There are a whole lot more people in Congress that hold Israeli citizenship than Ukrainian.

2. Israel has a much greater chance of "winning" than Ukraine.


Which congress members are Israeli citizens? Or was this just made up, because I couldn’t find any with a quick search.


9 senators are de facto Israeli citizens




Another anti-Semite that believes being Jewish, a religion, makes you Israeli.

Are Catholics citizens of Rome? Those with Italian ancestry have similar rights but it doesn’t make them citizens.


Yes, being Jew makes you a citizen of Israel. You just have to ask.
Every Jew in the world has the unrestricted right to be an Israeli. It is as simple as just declaring it.


This is such an anti-Semitic view. There is a "right of return" to Israel for people with one Jewish grandparent. In order to become an Israeli citizen, a Jewish person must apply for the right of return and prove their ancestry and religious affiliation. They must physically return to Israel. It is not so simple as "just declaring it".

It is also not different from dozens of other countries that have "citizenship by ancestry" or "citizenship by descent" - Poland, Hungary, Ireland, Mexico, and many others.

The anti-semitism lies in the way people call out only Jews for their suspect loyalties to Israel merely because of their religion. This is what PPs are doing when they suggest that Jews in congress will vote according to Israel's interests.

No one questioned Cruz's loyalty because he was a dual Canadian citizen.

No one questions Michelle Bachmann's loyalty even though she is a US citizen by birth with a second Swiss citizenship which she acquired by declaration under the ancestry pathway.

There are many members of Congress with Irish ancestry, yet no one questions their loyalty - neither to Ireland nor to the Pope if they are catholic. (Well, at least not after JFK.)