Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder that VDOE is holding its third community session on VMPI tonight. Hear more about the shift in approach.

Tuesday 4/27 at 6:30pm
Essential Concepts courses Grades 8-10.

Watch live (or recorded later):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbxl9wHScrWKWIEoUWNIfQ

You can still submit Qs/comments in advance or in the chat during the session:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesz3YtqVqXtAioJKX0xtYbPxUW6l7dfpbwfdbQyEQ5eTgZMQ/viewform

LCPS school board will be covering VMPI at their meeting today, starting at 4.
https://www.lcps.org/Page/140009
They will be covering many topics of course(does every county have 8 hour school board meetings), and no idea when VMPI will show up.
Ian Serotkin is on this board. He was the one who posted about this on Facebook, and generated the backtracking.

If the prior meetings are any indicator, the topic generating the most interest will be discussed last.

What will they discuss?

"We don't know exactly what is being proposed"
"OK"

I think county staff will be there to answer questions.
If they are going last with this, then they would actually be after the DOE webinar, but they would not have seen it.

It is not clear that this is the most controversial issue. There was one meeting that had changes to AOS that went on for awhile,
then they followed up with opening the school for special ed, and I think there was another controversial topic as well.

In a college engineering curriculum, a student’s baseline math requirements include calc 1, calc 2, calc 3, diff eq, and linear algebra. The high school AP program designated calc AB = college calc 1, and calc BC = calc 1 and calc 2. Why would an entire high school math curriculum lead to a high school student to take BOTH calc AB (in 11th grade) and calc BC (in 12th). That student is essentially taking calc 1 twice, which makes no sense within the AP program. And the only students taking calc BC in high school would be ones with the interest and ability, and should have no need to repeat calc 1. This plan makes no sense for the advanced.

Here is an example at a CA charter of integrated math fits in with tracking, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder that VDOE is holding its third community session on VMPI tonight. Hear more about the shift in approach.

Tuesday 4/27 at 6:30pm
Essential Concepts courses Grades 8-10.

Watch live (or recorded later):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbxl9wHScrWKWIEoUWNIfQ

You can still submit Qs/comments in advance or in the chat during the session:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesz3YtqVqXtAioJKX0xtYbPxUW6l7dfpbwfdbQyEQ5eTgZMQ/viewform

LCPS school board will be covering VMPI at their meeting today, starting at 4.
https://www.lcps.org/Page/140009
They will be covering many topics of course(does every county have 8 hour school board meetings), and no idea when VMPI will show up.
Ian Serotkin is on this board. He was the one who posted about this on Facebook, and generated the backtracking.

If the prior meetings are any indicator, the topic generating the most interest will be discussed last.

What will they discuss?

"We don't know exactly what is being proposed"
"OK"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any recommended math curriculums? Spiraled or not? What do they do in the areas with good schools (MA, NY, etc)?

These areas have similar problems of taking away advanced academic programs because it is mostly Asians in them.
Boston Public Schools said so directly. They also have a statewide policy of rating schools based on the differential in performance in races, giving them an incentive to not teach the better performing races.
NY Mayor is looking to make the good schools get rid of the merit based admission.

No not the cities -the small MC/UMC towns up there that are well known to have great schools. How are they teaching math?

I took a look at Newton Public Schools, and their first link is to NCTM. They are using Investigations for elementary curriculum and Illustrative for midd;e school.
No sign that they are allowing advancement, but this is generally not available on websites.
Curriculum document includes
"[youtube]Additional rich and engaging tasks meant to meet the needs of all of our middle school students are provided for teachers from resources such as The Shell Center and Dan Meyer’s 3 Act Tasks. "

Cambridge looks similar.
Burlington is very uninformative, however they have this for the 6th grade curriculum and it looks like a blended approach and probably similar to what we should expect from Virginia if they are really following an advanced path that lets kids take calculus in 12th.
This is higher level than the regular track Math 6 right now.
https://sites.google.com/bpsk12.org/mrs-crowley-math-20202021/curriculum-overview

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder that VDOE is holding its third community session on VMPI tonight. Hear more about the shift in approach.

Tuesday 4/27 at 6:30pm
Essential Concepts courses Grades 8-10.

Watch live (or recorded later):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbxl9wHScrWKWIEoUWNIfQ

You can still submit Qs/comments in advance or in the chat during the session:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesz3YtqVqXtAioJKX0xtYbPxUW6l7dfpbwfdbQyEQ5eTgZMQ/viewform

LCPS school board will be covering VMPI at their meeting today, starting at 4.
https://www.lcps.org/Page/140009
They will be covering many topics of course(does every county have 8 hour school board meetings), and no idea when VMPI will show up.
Ian Serotkin is on this board. He was the one who posted about this on Facebook, and generated the backtracking.

If the prior meetings are any indicator, the topic generating the most interest will be discussed last.

Anonymous wrote:Reminder that VDOE is holding its third community session on VMPI tonight. Hear more about the shift in approach.

Tuesday 4/27 at 6:30pm
Essential Concepts courses Grades 8-10.

Watch live (or recorded later):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbxl9wHScrWKWIEoUWNIfQ

You can still submit Qs/comments in advance or in the chat during the session:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesz3YtqVqXtAioJKX0xtYbPxUW6l7dfpbwfdbQyEQ5eTgZMQ/viewform

LCPS school board will be covering VMPI at their meeting today, starting at 4.
https://www.lcps.org/Page/140009
They will be covering many topics of course(does every county have 8 hour school board meetings), and no idea when VMPI will show up.
Ian Serotkin is on this board. He was the one who posted about this on Facebook, and generated the backtracking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any recommended math curriculums? Spiraled or not? What do they do in the areas with good schools (MA, NY, etc)?

Singapore Math is my recommendation. Singapore is known for its excellent math programs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_math

+1 Singapore Math has a nice balance. Not spiraling.

Friend pulled kids to homeschool. One child was in AAP in FCPS. Kid only tested on grade (instead of a year ahead as expected) in Singapore math.

We homeschooled our kindergartner instead of doing DL and Singapore Math has been amazing. My friend who has homeschooled all her kids recommended it.

Reminder that VDOE is holding its third community session on VMPI tonight. Hear more about the shift in approach.

Tuesday 4/27 at 6:30pm
Essential Concepts courses Grades 8-10.

Watch live (or recorded later):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbxl9wHScrWKWIEoUWNIfQ

You can still submit Qs/comments in advance or in the chat during the session:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesz3YtqVqXtAioJKX0xtYbPxUW6l7dfpbwfdbQyEQ5eTgZMQ/viewform

Disadvantaged smart kids who are able to overcome their home situation are already doing so. And this plan does nothing to help the kids who aren’t. It just slows down the other kids from leaping ahead.

Thank you to whoever is posting the feedback links. Just sent email and submitted questions. I hope we get enough parent feedback to nix this, though I doubt it. VA will likely see this through for a few years. Realize that it's not helping the underperforming communities at all but with the added bonus of negatively impacted the higher performing students. So lose-lose for both sides of the coin. Thanks, VA!

I don't understand how this can work at the HS level for college applications. Specific classes in a specific sequence is expected for admissions. It is so weird. I get wanting to push back the start of Algebra 1 to 8th or even 9th grade; many states do that as the norm. But I don't think altering the progression in high school can really work. How can the kids who are still in Math 8 be int he same class and progress with students who would be in Geometry at the same time? Makes no sense and it holds back one group while not giving the fundamentals to the other. It places an undue burden on teachers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are totally gaslighting us, trying to pretend they weren’t doing exactly what they were doing, and then calling us crazy for over reacting.

+1
What's surprised me is that they haven't yanked down the Youtube videos yet since that's where the evidence is that we aren't all crazy.

+100 it's infuriating and makes me more likely to think the current statements are just a smokescreen and the plan is still the same. If you've head the concerns and are adjusting, just say that instead of lying about it.

I am the first PP and I absolutely think this is what they are doing. We just driven the plan underground but it’s still there.

This speaks to the level of distrust this past year has given all of us in Virginia public schools. Lovely.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are totally gaslighting us, trying to pretend they weren’t doing exactly what they were doing, and then calling us crazy for over reacting.

+1
What's surprised me is that they haven't yanked down the Youtube videos yet since that's where the evidence is that we aren't all crazy.

+100 it's infuriating and makes me more likely to think the current statements are just a smokescreen and the plan is still the same. If you've head the concerns and are adjusting, just say that instead of lying about it.

I am the first PP and I absolutely think this is what they are doing. We just driven the plan underground but it’s still there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any recommended math curriculums? Spiraled or not? What do they do in the areas with good schools (MA, NY, etc)?

Singapore Math is my recommendation. Singapore is known for its excellent math programs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_math

+1 Singapore Math has a nice balance. Not spiraling.

Friend pulled kids to homeschool. One child was in AAP in FCPS. Kid only tested on grade (instead of a year ahead as expected) in Singapore math.