Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many viral tweets wondering if John is just as bad or if not, shouldn't he divorce her? This isn't stuff she did as a teenager, this was when she was a verified twitter account and celebrity in her mid and late 20s. Plus she was using her sketchy influencer friends to signal boost her wickedness.
He's an enabler and he is not a nice guy if he does not denounce this. So many enablers of abusive narcissists think they will keep their perfect image by staying neutral or just standing buy the abuser. His silence is deafening and speaks volumes.
Anonymous wrote:So many viral tweets wondering if John is just as bad or if not, shouldn't he divorce her? This isn't stuff she did as a teenager, this was when she was a verified twitter account and celebrity in her mid and late 20s. Plus she was using her sketchy influencer friends to signal boost her wickedness.
Anonymous wrote:Good to see Crissy and Yasher have found this thread. Two creepy talentless peas in a pod.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regardless of any other circumstances, Chrissy Tiegen now has a history of telling multiple people to kill themselves or die. As an adult. There is simply no excuse for that kind of repeated behavior and I cannot believe how many people are trying to desperately rationalize it here.
If you are talking to me, the PP, I specifically said this had no bearing on any of the other instances. But a piece of internet trash trying to use a celebrity scandal to hide his racist past and, in fact, likely profit off of it, is just as bad as anything she has done.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.
Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.
So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.
She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?
She says she thinks racist people should suffer and die. And she's a WOC married to a black man with two children of color. I think that is a FAR cry from the courtney stodden BS (which is heinous). She had a specific issue with this guy, this wasn't just piling on someone from the internet, this was a disagreement with this guy that was due to real things she thought about him. And based on twitter, I think the jury is WAY out on whether Michael Costello should be any type of sympathy victim here.
https://twitter.com/ANLWrites_OLD/status/1404609387541508103
https://ew.com/celebrity/leona-lewis-calls-out-michael-costello-for-his-response-to-chrissy-teigens-apology/
https://twitter.com/unforeseenbritt/status/1404736156550455299
https://twitter.com/Blackgirlmed2/status/1404853378887323652/photo/1
Yeah, I'm also a WOC, and I think this type of behavior (saying anyone should "suffer and die") is beyond the pale. Also, it looks like the kind of behavior she engaged in extended beyond just sending messages that she wasn't interested in talking to him, she also went out of her way to close professional doors and badmouth him in public. Obviously racism is bad and racists shouldn't get a pass, but I don't think it justifies going on a vigilante campaign to ruin someone's career based on a few tweets, especially when that person reaches out and tries to explain/tell you that at least some of the evidence of that is fake or inaccurate. At that point, the right thing to do is either ignore that person and move on (not try to ruin their career) or to at least hear them out before you start actively badmouthing them and doing things that will affect their career. So if this is true (I realize we are only hearing his side of the story), it reflects poorly on her despite the fact that she thought he was a racist, and IMO certainly qualifies as bullying.
I don't know who Costello is, and maybe he has said racist things/isn't the most sympathetic person, but I don't think using a power differential to crush someone's career is okay without giving them at least some due process first.
The woman he stole from and called the N word is online today saying he not only wrote it online but that he called it to her to her face and then got into a physical altercation with her.
So I dunno about Chrissy Teigan, but I'm going to believe the black woman who says she was stolen from and then verbally assaulted.
If that's true, that's horrible, and I hope he faces consequences for it. However, that woman came forward today, and this happened in 2014. And regardless, it's a completely separate incident from what we're discussing, which is Chrissy Tiegen's bullying. She can be a bully AND he can be a racist. Those are two separate things. In my view, being a racist (especially based on the evidence she was using in 2014, which was apparently a photoshopped tweet) doesn't justify the kind of behavior she exhibited.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.
Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.
So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.
She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?
She says she thinks racist people should suffer and die. And she's a WOC married to a black man with two children of color. I think that is a FAR cry from the courtney stodden BS (which is heinous). She had a specific issue with this guy, this wasn't just piling on someone from the internet, this was a disagreement with this guy that was due to real things she thought about him. And based on twitter, I think the jury is WAY out on whether Michael Costello should be any type of sympathy victim here.
https://twitter.com/ANLWrites_OLD/status/1404609387541508103
https://ew.com/celebrity/leona-lewis-calls-out-michael-costello-for-his-response-to-chrissy-teigens-apology/
https://twitter.com/unforeseenbritt/status/1404736156550455299
https://twitter.com/Blackgirlmed2/status/1404853378887323652/photo/1
Yeah, I'm also a WOC, and I think this type of behavior (saying anyone should "suffer and die") is beyond the pale. Also, it looks like the kind of behavior she engaged in extended beyond just sending messages that she wasn't interested in talking to him, she also went out of her way to close professional doors and badmouth him in public. Obviously racism is bad and racists shouldn't get a pass, but I don't think it justifies going on a vigilante campaign to ruin someone's career based on a few tweets, especially when that person reaches out and tries to explain/tell you that at least some of the evidence of that is fake or inaccurate. At that point, the right thing to do is either ignore that person and move on (not try to ruin their career) or to at least hear them out before you start actively badmouthing them and doing things that will affect their career. So if this is true (I realize we are only hearing his side of the story), it reflects poorly on her despite the fact that she thought he was a racist, and IMO certainly qualifies as bullying.
I don't know who Costello is, and maybe he has said racist things/isn't the most sympathetic person, but I don't think using a power differential to crush someone's career is okay without giving them at least some due process first.
The woman he stole from and called the N word is online today saying he not only wrote it online but that he called it to her to her face and then got into a physical altercation with her.
So I dunno about Chrissy Teigan, but I'm going to believe the black woman who says she was stolen from and then verbally assaulted.
If that's true, that's horrible, and I hope he faces consequences for it. However, that woman came forward today, and this happened in 2014. And regardless, it's a completely separate incident from what we're discussing, which is Chrissy Tiegen's bullying. She can be a bully AND he can be a racist. Those are two separate things. In my view, being a racist (especially based on the evidence she was using in 2014, which was apparently a photoshopped tweet) doesn't justify the kind of behavior she exhibited.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.
Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.
So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.
She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?
She says she thinks racist people should suffer and die. And she's a WOC married to a black man with two children of color. I think that is a FAR cry from the courtney stodden BS (which is heinous). She had a specific issue with this guy, this wasn't just piling on someone from the internet, this was a disagreement with this guy that was due to real things she thought about him. And based on twitter, I think the jury is WAY out on whether Michael Costello should be any type of sympathy victim here.
https://twitter.com/ANLWrites_OLD/status/1404609387541508103
https://ew.com/celebrity/leona-lewis-calls-out-michael-costello-for-his-response-to-chrissy-teigens-apology/
https://twitter.com/unforeseenbritt/status/1404736156550455299
https://twitter.com/Blackgirlmed2/status/1404853378887323652/photo/1
Yeah, I'm also a WOC, and I think this type of behavior (saying anyone should "suffer and die") is beyond the pale. Also, it looks like the kind of behavior she engaged in extended beyond just sending messages that she wasn't interested in talking to him, she also went out of her way to close professional doors and badmouth him in public. Obviously racism is bad and racists shouldn't get a pass, but I don't think it justifies going on a vigilante campaign to ruin someone's career based on a few tweets, especially when that person reaches out and tries to explain/tell you that at least some of the evidence of that is fake or inaccurate. At that point, the right thing to do is either ignore that person and move on (not try to ruin their career) or to at least hear them out before you start actively badmouthing them and doing things that will affect their career. So if this is true (I realize we are only hearing his side of the story), it reflects poorly on her despite the fact that she thought he was a racist, and IMO certainly qualifies as bullying.
I don't know who Costello is, and maybe he has said racist things/isn't the most sympathetic person, but I don't think using a power differential to crush someone's career is okay without giving them at least some due process first.
The woman he stole from and called the N word is online today saying he not only wrote it online but that he called it to her to her face and then got into a physical altercation with her.
So I dunno about Chrissy Teigan, but I'm going to believe the black woman who says she was stolen from and then verbally assaulted.