Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 08:08     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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Anonymous wrote:We don't know how far it travels and what is actually safe:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-why-6-feet-may-not-be-enough-social-distance


Many of the early assumptions about it were wrong. They once believed kids were immune. Now more and more kids are getting it.


They didn't believe kids were immune. They didn't know and the majority of cases were adults. It was only common sense it would hit kids and mutate.


It's not mutating substantially and no one ever said kids were immune. The thought was always that kids are less likely to develop serious complications, which remains true. There as also a thought that kids were less likely to pick-up and transmit the virus. But, that's only true for kids younger than 10.


There are multiple stains and we now have cases of reinfection. Kids under 10 absolutely can catch and share it.


The president is and his henchmen, many post here apparently, are now pushing for herd immunity. This means open everything and let the bodies pile up.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 08:06     Subject: Re:We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone


I'm so proud of MCPS leadership for following the science and public health experts and keeping us and our children safe.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 05:49     Subject: Re:We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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Anonymous wrote:Germantown to Hagerstown is under 1-hour drive. THey've been open for some kids for over a month. One of the worst-funded school systems in MD can pull this off, but one of the best-funded systems in MD cannot.


THen, move there. They have 22,000 kids in the entire county. Big difference.


How so? How many actual schools do they have?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 02:27     Subject: Re:We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:Germantown to Hagerstown is under 1-hour drive. THey've been open for some kids for over a month. One of the worst-funded school systems in MD can pull this off, but one of the best-funded systems in MD cannot.


THen, move there. They have 22,000 kids in the entire county. Big difference.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 02:26     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



What is MCPS specifically doing about the scale they're facing?


Probably nothing. What can they do? They don't have the funds to do the repairs or replacements and have canceled several projects for safety that were supposed to be done over the summer. They don't have the funds to buy land/build additional schools to make them smaller. So, we wait it out.


Like.. every other county in MD. Some of which have already opened.


Our schools aren't comparable. So, what exactly can we do to safely reopen? How do you ignore the schools that already have multiple issues and don't have an HVAC and have a boiler system? How do you ignore over crowded classrooms that already don't have enough seating?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 02:15     Subject: Re:We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Germantown to Hagerstown is under 1-hour drive. THey've been open for some kids for over a month. One of the worst-funded school systems in MD can pull this off, but one of the best-funded systems in MD cannot.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 02:12     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



What is MCPS specifically doing about the scale they're facing?


Probably nothing. What can they do? They don't have the funds to do the repairs or replacements and have canceled several projects for safety that were supposed to be done over the summer. They don't have the funds to buy land/build additional schools to make them smaller. So, we wait it out.


Like.. every other county in MD. Some of which have already opened.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 02:11     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



Yes you can. Spending per student is lower in Washington County. MCPS has more money, more staff, and more resources.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 01:41     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't know how far it travels and what is actually safe:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-why-6-feet-may-not-be-enough-social-distance


Many of the early assumptions about it were wrong. They once believed kids were immune. Now more and more kids are getting it.


They didn't believe kids were immune. They didn't know and the majority of cases were adults. It was only common sense it would hit kids and mutate.


It's not mutating substantially and no one ever said kids were immune. The thought was always that kids are less likely to develop serious complications, which remains true. There as also a thought that kids were less likely to pick-up and transmit the virus. But, that's only true for kids younger than 10.


There are multiple stains and we now have cases of reinfection. Kids under 10 absolutely can catch and share it.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 00:50     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't know how far it travels and what is actually safe:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-why-6-feet-may-not-be-enough-social-distance


Many of the early assumptions about it were wrong. They once believed kids were immune. Now more and more kids are getting it.


They didn't believe kids were immune. They didn't know and the majority of cases were adults. It was only common sense it would hit kids and mutate.


It's not mutating substantially and no one ever said kids were immune. The thought was always that kids are less likely to develop serious complications, which remains true. There as also a thought that kids were less likely to pick-up and transmit the virus. But, that's only true for kids younger than 10.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 00:49     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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is there a list of schools and the last time they have been updated or renovated? I'd be curious to know which schools dont have adequate have and their proximity to other underutilized buildings that could act as a temporary replacement. At a.minimum, installing fans and air purifiers in these classrooms will help tremendously. Portable sinks aren't terribly expensive. There are solutions that dont require tearing down buildings, but unless MCPS has taken the step to list out which buildings are clear to return to and which ones need upgrades, there is really no way to address the problems. A real leader would have this information by now. They'd also know who wants f2f and who wants dl. I agree, hybrid shouldn't even be an option.


Yes, it's the MCPS CIP.

If there were simple solutions, they'd already have been done. There are no simple solutions.


My understanding is that every school in Montgomery County is required to have ventilation units that provide fresh outdoor air. Fans pull the return and outdoor air through an air filter. This is required by code so if you are aware of a school that is not maintaining their equipment, you need to report it.


Can you cite the source for that?


I would think for all new buildings this is true but there is no way that the older buildings have been retrofitted. There aren't fans in the two schools we've been at. Its been pretty miserable in the classrooms at different times. Report to who? MCPS? If they cared they'd fix it.

Until all the schools are fix, the nice new W school (and a few others) will not get to return as we return as a county, not individual schools.

Neelsville Middle School - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ydhxg9FfPI
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 00:44     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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Anonymous wrote:We don't know how far it travels and what is actually safe:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-why-6-feet-may-not-be-enough-social-distance


Many of the early assumptions about it were wrong. They once believed kids were immune. Now more and more kids are getting it.


They didn't believe kids were immune. They didn't know and the majority of cases were adults. It was only common sense it would hit kids and mutate.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2020 00:40     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

I sincerely hope you’re right and they don’t go back until it’s safe p
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2020 21:21     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

is there a list of schools and the last time they have been updated or renovated? I'd be curious to know which schools dont have adequate have and their proximity to other underutilized buildings that could act as a temporary replacement. At a.minimum, installing fans and air purifiers in these classrooms will help tremendously. Portable sinks aren't terribly expensive. There are solutions that dont require tearing down buildings, but unless MCPS has taken the step to list out which buildings are clear to return to and which ones need upgrades, there is really no way to address the problems. A real leader would have this information by now. They'd also know who wants f2f and who wants dl. I agree, hybrid shouldn't even be an option.


Yes, it's the MCPS CIP.

If there were simple solutions, they'd already have been done. There are no simple solutions.


My understanding is that every school in Montgomery County is required to have ventilation units that provide fresh outdoor air. Fans pull the return and outdoor air through an air filter. This is required by code so if you are aware of a school that is not maintaining their equipment, you need to report it.


Can you cite the source for that?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2020 21:15     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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The dirty little secret is that there is not a having in development for children. No students will be vaccinated. The one available in the first quarter of 2021 will be adults only.

The other secret is that it won't be effective for obese people. Which will be a problem here in the states


If it's not effective for obese people, then the FDA shouldn't approve it as an effective vaccine. A vaccine that's not effective for the people who are actually in the population is not an effective vaccine.


It's an absurd claim that the vaccine won't work on obese people. Unless the pp comes back with a credible source, you can safely ignore that comment. The main group I'd worry about are people with comprised immune systems.


Dirty secret...PP is making up dirty little secrets.