Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:57     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
I would argue that Trump actually fell into the Democrats’ trap. They’ve allowed him and his gang of grifters to get more and more comfortable breaking norms and laws without much pushback. And now he’s handed them an impeachable offense on a platter: attempting to convince a foreign government to meddle in America’s election. My assumption is that Pelosi figures that if he did it once in 2016, he would do it again in 2020. And this time Trump has roped in Pence, Barr, Giuliani, and Pompeo.

Democrats could have started the impeachment process a year ago, there was already plenty to work with. However, they decided to wait. Do Republicans ever ask themselves why? In one fell swoop, Democrats can make a credible case that Trump’s cabinet is compromised.

Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:56     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
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Anonymous wrote:The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.


Yes, I was just reading it now.


Can you post the link? I'm not finding it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-obsession.html

Can you post salient excerpts? Can’t get in without a subscription.


That is why news organizations are "failing" - please subscribe, it isn't that much money.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:56     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:Pelosi is a wise woman avoiding impeachment b/c she knows:


While the Ukraine conversation does have political hijinks, I’m suspect in trial in can be papered over as ferreting out corruption with help from overseas. I suspect it was actually a setup and that’s how the CIA analyst even got the transcript; he wanted to goad the Dems to impeach him before election, trial ends with no removal, his base is energized and coasts into reelection. And is then impeachment proof for his second term. (And beyond... who knows)

No president has ever been removed from office. No way in hell are the Republicans let them be the first.



In the last two hours:

-Trump’s intel IG thinks Trump may have broken the law

-Ukraine thought investigating Biden was prerequisite to talk to Trump

-The White House didn’t log call the normal way, per the whistleblower

-Trump first raised this in *April*

This is not "a trap."

Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:54     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.


Yes, I was just reading it now.


Can you post the link? I'm not finding it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-obsession.html

Can you post salient excerpts? Can’t get in without a subscription.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:42     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.


Yes, I was just reading it now.


Can you post the link? I'm not finding it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-obsession.html
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:39     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.


Yes, I was just reading it now.


Can you post the link? I'm not finding it.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:38     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.


Yes, I was just reading it now.


Link? Or summary/highlights?
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:37     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.


Yes, I was just reading it now.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:35     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pelosi is a wise woman avoiding impeachment b/c she knows:


While the Ukraine conversation does have political hijinks, I’m suspect in trial in can be papered over as ferreting out corruption with help from overseas. I suspect it was actually a setup and that’s how the CIA analyst even got the transcript; he wanted to goad the Dems to impeach him before election, trial ends with no removal, his base is energized and coasts into reelection. And is then impeachment proof for his second term. (And beyond... who knows)

No president has ever been removed from office. No way in hell are the Republicans let them be the first.



Why are people not getting this?!?

This is not about removing him from office (although it would be nice, but he's not going to be reelected anyway).

This is about TAKING A STAND. Recording our opposition to Trump's corruption and amorality for the history books.

This alone is worth all the effort of impeachment.

It's a matter of principle. Honor. Patriotism.

Concepts that are perhaps missing from your understanding, since you haven't yet figured what this is about.



Let me guess. You were dancing in traffic Monday

Adults want to actually get sh#t done. We need to find then surest way to get this guys hand off the nuclear football.

Principle is for college philosophy courses


I do not attend strikes or rallies of any kind, if that's what you're implying. It's sad that you relegate philosophy to dusty halls when it actually pervades our daily lives. And I pity your lack of moral compass.

Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:35     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pelosi is a wise woman avoiding impeachment b/c she knows:


While the Ukraine conversation does have political hijinks, I’m suspect in trial in can be papered over as ferreting out corruption with help from overseas. I suspect it was actually a setup and that’s how the CIA analyst even got the transcript; he wanted to goad the Dems to impeach him before election, trial ends with no removal, his base is energized and coasts into reelection. And is then impeachment proof for his second term. (And beyond... who knows)

No president has ever been removed from office. No way in hell are the Republicans let them be the first.



Please. Trump isn't playing 9D chess. He's barely able to walk and talk, let alone string together a coherent sentence.

Impeachment isn't a trap. It's the right thing to do.


Why was Pelosi delaying?


Delaying? She was waiting for the votes. Or for Trump to self-impeach, whichever came first.

Trump obliged.


Stop making stuff up. Trump ‘self-impeached’ b/c Pelosi wasn’t sticking her foot in it


https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-choice/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Pelosi, trading on her reputation as the master of her troops, has argued that the best way to deal with Trump is to oust him at the next election. She fears that a backlash from impeachment could electrify Trump's base and doom Democrats who helped her win back the House last fall. And since Republicans will almost certainly never help to produce the two-thirds majority needed to convict Trump in a Senate trial, the argument is that Democrats are walking into an impeachment trap.


Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:34     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Pelosi is a wise woman avoiding impeachment b/c she knows:


While the Ukraine conversation does have political hijinks, I’m suspect in trial in can be papered over as ferreting out corruption with help from overseas. I suspect it was actually a setup and that’s how the CIA analyst even got the transcript; he wanted to goad the Dems to impeach him before election, trial ends with no removal, his base is energized and coasts into reelection. And is then impeachment proof for his second term. (And beyond... who knows)

No president has ever been removed from office. No way in hell are the Republicans let them be the first.



Please. Trump isn't playing 9D chess. He's barely able to walk and talk, let alone string together a coherent sentence.

Impeachment isn't a trap. It's the right thing to do.


Why was Pelosi delaying?


She knew that eventually Trump would have enough rope to hang himself. And she was right. He's making it much easier now.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:34     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
The most recent NY Times article about the April call is bonkers.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:28     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Remember, Ukraine policy was the single issue that the Trump campaign changed in the GOP platform.

There are no coincidences.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:28     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pelosi is a wise woman avoiding impeachment b/c she knows:


While the Ukraine conversation does have political hijinks, I’m suspect in trial in can be papered over as ferreting out corruption with help from overseas. I suspect it was actually a setup and that’s how the CIA analyst even got the transcript; he wanted to goad the Dems to impeach him before election, trial ends with no removal, his base is energized and coasts into reelection. And is then impeachment proof for his second term. (And beyond... who knows)

No president has ever been removed from office. No way in hell are the Republicans let them be the first.



Why are people not getting this?!?

This is not about removing him from office (although it would be nice, but he's not going to be reelected anyway).

This is about TAKING A STAND. Recording our opposition to Trump's corruption and amorality for the history books.

This alone is worth all the effort of impeachment.

It's a matter of principle. Honor. Patriotism.

Concepts that are perhaps missing from your understanding, since you haven't yet figured what this is about.



Let me guess. You were dancing in traffic Monday

Adults want to actually get sh#t done. We need to find then surest way to get this guys hand off the nuclear football.

Principle is for college philosophy courses
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 21:28     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pelosi is a wise woman avoiding impeachment b/c she knows:


While the Ukraine conversation does have political hijinks, I’m suspect in trial in can be papered over as ferreting out corruption with help from overseas. I suspect it was actually a setup and that’s how the CIA analyst even got the transcript; he wanted to goad the Dems to impeach him before election, trial ends with no removal, his base is energized and coasts into reelection. And is then impeachment proof for his second term. (And beyond... who knows)

No president has ever been removed from office. No way in hell are the Republicans let them be the first.



Please. Trump isn't playing 9D chess. He's barely able to walk and talk, let alone string together a coherent sentence.

Impeachment isn't a trap. It's the right thing to do.


Why was Pelosi delaying?


Delaying? She was waiting for the votes. Or for Trump to self-impeach, whichever came first.

Trump obliged.