Anonymous
05/28/2019 12:39
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Lukaku isn't the right counter-argument for the size and speed nonsense spouted by the previous poster.
Usain Bolt is. I'd love to hear about how his size and speed makes him the ultimate soccer player.
LOL. That IS better than Lukaku, thank you. But we all know tons of coaches and clubs that would throw Bolt out there and just kick it to him to win games. Not sure what the other 9 field players are getting out of that in terms of development other than cheering Bolt on.
This is such a stupid exercise. Nobody is saying that speed, size and/or freakish athleticism is the only attribute needed to be successful at any given sport. A player must also have technical and tactical skills. That is what separates soccer players like, for example, a Usain Bolt from a Jose Altidore from a Romelu Lukaku.
Similarly, I don't care how amazing a player's technical skills are, or how amazing his/her mind is tactically, if the player is slow as molasses, then that player is never seeing a field for any top team (youth or otherwise). Same goes for a fully-grown player that is only 4'8". That may work for an Olympic gymnast like Simone Biles (who is 4'8"), but a girl that height will never make her high school soccer team, let alone a college team.
You get my point. You need a combination of these attributes to be successful. In general, the more attributes you have, the more likely you will have success as a player. This should be obvious.
So in short, with more and more European women playing soccer and more of an athletic pool for European Pro Academies to draw from the ability to train in a style similar to what has been done successfully on the men's side for decades already will now be implemented on the women's side.
The USWNT has been successful primarily due to superior athleticism and now that European countries are beginning to not only match that athleticism but to also out train us due to professional academies while we are relying on youth soccer clubs and colleges. The train is rolling down the track and this years World Cup will put our shortcomings on display.
Don't hold your breath waiting for USWNT to fail. The spring experimentation phase with the YNT playups is over. The USWNT will still dominate the competition.
And this will be the last time that they do so. The spring experimental phase is the train that is coming.
There are 23 on the roster here is the age breakdown.
21, 21
24
25
26, 26
27, 27, 27
29
30
31, 31, 31, 31
32
34, 34
35
This is a group in its prime now, but by the next World Cup most of the core group will be on the wrong side of 30.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 12:14
Subject: Washington Spirit Virginia
OK--Usain Bolt poster here; I was silently watching this fiasco from afar until that point.
We have now come to the middle, where I think everyone can agree that the combination of attributes and talent (technical skill, soccer intelligence, size, speed, quickness, maturity, speed of thought, creativity) is what makes players good. So that means some can be strong in some areas and weaker in others and still be very good players.
The original comment showed an overemphasis on size and speed, but thankfully you've backed down from that angle.
We have now come to the middle, where I think everyone can agree that the combination of attributes and talent (technical skill, soccer intelligence, size, speed, quickness, maturity, speed of thought, creativity) is what makes players good. So that means some can be strong in some areas and weaker in others and still be very good players.
The original comment showed an overemphasis on size and speed, but thankfully you've backed down from that angle.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 12:13
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Lukaku isn't the right counter-argument for the size and speed nonsense spouted by the previous poster.
Usain Bolt is. I'd love to hear about how his size and speed makes him the ultimate soccer player.
LOL. That IS better than Lukaku, thank you. But we all know tons of coaches and clubs that would throw Bolt out there and just kick it to him to win games. Not sure what the other 9 field players are getting out of that in terms of development other than cheering Bolt on.
This is such a stupid exercise. Nobody is saying that speed, size and/or freakish athleticism is the only attribute needed to be successful at any given sport. A player must also have technical and tactical skills. That is what separates soccer players like, for example, a Usain Bolt from a Jose Altidore from a Romelu Lukaku.
Similarly, I don't care how amazing a player's technical skills are, or how amazing his/her mind is tactically, if the player is slow as molasses, then that player is never seeing a field for any top team (youth or otherwise). Same goes for a fully-grown player that is only 4'8". That may work for an Olympic gymnast like Simone Biles (who is 4'8"), but a girl that height will never make her high school soccer team, let alone a college team.
You get my point. You need a combination of these attributes to be successful. In general, the more attributes you have, the more likely you will have success as a player. This should be obvious.
So in short, with more and more European women playing soccer and more of an athletic pool for European Pro Academies to draw from the ability to train in a style similar to what has been done successfully on the men's side for decades already will now be implemented on the women's side.
The USWNT has been successful primarily due to superior athleticism and now that European countries are beginning to not only match that athleticism but to also out train us due to professional academies while we are relying on youth soccer clubs and colleges. The train is rolling down the track and this years World Cup will put our shortcomings on display.
Don't hold your breath waiting for USWNT to fail. The spring experimentation phase with the YNT playups is over. The USWNT will still dominate the competition.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 12:01
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Lukaku isn't the right counter-argument for the size and speed nonsense spouted by the previous poster.
Usain Bolt is. I'd love to hear about how his size and speed makes him the ultimate soccer player.
LOL. That IS better than Lukaku, thank you. But we all know tons of coaches and clubs that would throw Bolt out there and just kick it to him to win games. Not sure what the other 9 field players are getting out of that in terms of development other than cheering Bolt on.
This is such a stupid exercise. Nobody is saying that speed, size and/or freakish athleticism is the only attribute needed to be successful at any given sport. A player must also have technical and tactical skills. That is what separates soccer players like, for example, a Usain Bolt from a Jose Altidore from a Romelu Lukaku.
Similarly, I don't care how amazing a player's technical skills are, or how amazing his/her mind is tactically, if the player is slow as molasses, then that player is never seeing a field for any top team (youth or otherwise). Same goes for a fully-grown player that is only 4'8". That may work for an Olympic gymnast like Simone Biles (who is 4'8"), but a girl that height will never make her high school soccer team, let alone a college team.
You get my point. You need a combination of these attributes to be successful. In general, the more attributes you have, the more likely you will have success as a player. This should be obvious.
So in short, with more and more European women playing soccer and more of an athletic pool for European Pro Academies to draw from the ability to train in a style similar to what has been done successfully on the men's side for decades already will now be implemented on the women's side.
The USWNT has been successful primarily due to superior athleticism and now that European countries are beginning to not only match that athleticism but to also out train us due to professional academies while we are relying on youth soccer clubs and colleges. The train is rolling down the track and this years World Cup will put our shortcomings on display.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 11:53
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Lukaku isn't the right counter-argument for the size and speed nonsense spouted by the previous poster.
Usain Bolt is. I'd love to hear about how his size and speed makes him the ultimate soccer player.
LOL. That IS better than Lukaku, thank you. But we all know tons of coaches and clubs that would throw Bolt out there and just kick it to him to win games. Not sure what the other 9 field players are getting out of that in terms of development other than cheering Bolt on.
This is such a stupid exercise. Nobody is saying that speed, size and/or freakish athleticism is the only attribute needed to be successful at any given sport. A player must also have technical and tactical skills. That is what separates soccer players like, for example, a Usain Bolt from a Jose Altidore from a Romelu Lukaku.
Similarly, I don't care how amazing a player's technical skills are, or how amazing his/her mind is tactically, if the player is slow as molasses, then that player is never seeing a field for any top team (youth or otherwise). Same goes for a fully-grown player that is only 4'8". That may work for an Olympic gymnast like Simone Biles (who is 4'8"), but a girl that height will never make her high school soccer team, let alone a college team.
You get my point. You need a combination of these attributes to be successful. In general, the more attributes you have, the more likely you will have success as a player. This should be obvious.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 11:03
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Lukaku isn't the right counter-argument for the size and speed nonsense spouted by the previous poster.
Usain Bolt is. I'd love to hear about how his size and speed makes him the ultimate soccer player.
LOL. That IS better than Lukaku, thank you. But we all know tons of coaches and clubs that would throw Bolt out there and just kick it to him to win games. Not sure what the other 9 field players are getting out of that in terms of development other than cheering Bolt on.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:56
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Lukaku isn't the right counter-argument for the size and speed nonsense spouted by the previous poster.
Usain Bolt is. I'd love to hear about how his size and speed makes him the ultimate soccer player.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:47
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
If you are the same poster as above, you said "Lukaku is extremely strong and fast. How is that working out for him?" The answer to that question is pretty damn well.
Now you are trying to go down some silly rabbit hole debating "who's better" among various players. Who cares?
Let's cut to the chase. If your ultimate point is that one can still have huge success as a player, despite not being tall, fast or an exceptional athlete, then I don't think anyone is going to argue with you. There are always outliers in every sport that were SO exceptional at some other skill, that it made up for their lack of athleticism (e.g., Xavi in soccer; Steph Curry in basketball). However, it is a LOT easier to have success if one happens to be big, fast and/or very athletic.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:30
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
That is not the point unless you believe you have a Lukaku in your house with your big, strong and fast child. We are comparing apples to apples.
Lukaku vs. Xavi. Xavi would not be a highly thought of player in this country by 90% of coaches and by any reasonable person's standards, Xavi was a far superior soccer player even though he was much smaller and not nearly as strong or fast as Lukaku.
I will take a Xavi type youth player over a Lukaku every day of the week because winning games is not even in the top 5 in terms of developing great soccer players.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:26
Subject: Re:Washington Spirit Virginia
Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:25
Subject: Washington Spirit Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No it's not. Suck a rookie self serving statement.
Lukaku is extremely strong and fast. How is that working out for him? You know who wasn't that fast? Xavi. But his mind was faster than everyone else's Here, in the US, 99% of parents and 90% of coaches cannot even begin to appreciate the quick mind, which is a significant portion of high soccer IQ. But just keep launching those long balls my friend and get those wins while you can.
Since you asked, a quick internet search reveals that Romelu Lukaku:
Signed a 5 year / £46,800,000 contract with the Manchester United, including an annual average salary of £9,360,000. Say what you will about that club's results on the field the last several years, but they are currently the world's richest club and have a storied past.
He became the all-time leading scorer for Belgium, at only 24 years old.
He has now scored 45 goals in 79 games for Belgium.
By 25, he had already played in 2 World Cups for Belgium, which, as you may remember, finished 3rd last year.
He also became the first player since Maradona to score two goals or more in consecutive World Cup matches. He eventually ended the last World Cup with 4 goals, which earned him the Bronze Boot award.
Maybe you have higher expectations for your child, but my guess is Lukaku's parents are pretty damn proud of what he has accomplished by 26.