Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:23     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Dominion is not a private school:

Tuition: Funding for the program may be available through the local school systems under Public Law 94-142. Therefore, tuition and transportation costs are typically paid for by the public school system.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:23     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Over 37 pages of a murder and attempted suicide in the heart of White Privilege land with lots of nazi and antifa rhetoric. Meanwhile a few weeks back in PG County, barely a mention of this murder suicide as it doesn't fit the narrative.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2017/11/homicide-suicide-suspected-prince-georges-co-deaths/


FYI - Reston is a VERY diverse community.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:22     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:1601, you are missing the same point as the other genius. Just because someone is a Trump supporter doesn't mean they are a Nazi. What would you say if someone came up and asked you about Lenin or Stalin or communism, all of which have strong relationships with the left side of our democracy?


I would certainly not deny that Communism exists. I might even explain to them about the history of the CPUSA, and how they were opposed by both liberal Dems and Socialists of the Norman Thomas variety, about the 1948 election where liberals mostly supported anticommunist Truman over soft on Communism progressive Henry Wallace, etc, etc. Because that history is close to me, as someone with relatives who lived in fiercely divided NYC at the time.

So, not all Trump supporters are Nazis. Got it. This particular young man was. For some odd reason a bunch of people on this thread take great offense at the implication that his being a Nazi had ANYTHING to do with his crime. I am not sure why. Though it MIGHT be because Trump himself has been about as ambivalent towards people like this (such as in his initial comments on Charlottesville) as Henry Wallace was on Stalinism.

(BTW, Stalinism is not the same as Leninism - in addition to communists vs the non communist left, the 1940s was charecterized by bitter hostility between Stalinists and Trotskyite Leninists, who hated Stalin. One faction of them drifted to the right, and some became Social Democrats, and a few became Republican neocons.)
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:18     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Over 37 pages of a murder and attempted suicide in the heart of White Privilege land with lots of nazi and antifa rhetoric. Meanwhile a few weeks back in PG County, barely a mention of this murder suicide as it doesn't fit the narrative.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2017/11/homicide-suicide-suspected-prince-georges-co-deaths/
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:17     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Emotionally stunted people -- which includes most teens -- have a hard time accepting rejection.

Here you have a teen who probably doesn't have many emotional connections other than the girlfriend. Girl's parents have good reason for wanting her to end it. She does. Boy is in distress and doesn't know how to deal with rejection. Probably plays to girl's emotions that he loves her/she understands him/he might do something to hurt himself. She lets him in to either calm him down or at least be a friend.... parents discover him.

He sees girl's parents as the cause of his anguish and because he is impulsive (and has been feeding himself violence for sometime), he reacts by taking out those who are (in his mind) inflicting the pain on him. He realizes the severity of his impulses in a matter of seconds and attempts to end his pain permanently.

These types of post-break-up shootings happen all over -- for teens in schools where they kill the ex girl friend and her new boyfriend, or with grown men and their ex-wives/girlfriends.

The Nazi stuff is relevant to the extent that (a) the parents precipitated the break up and (b) the shooter was primed for violence. But, ultimately, I think this will be a story of immature teen not dealing with rejection and loss.

I wonder if the school counselors in this area (who already have their hands full with issues to teach) ever deal with the emotional health issues of what to do when a relationship ends. We have all been there and at least for girls -- we cry and whine to our friends until they can't stand it anymore.... but the desperation we feel --- especially when young -- is very real. I'm not sure boys have as many outlets for their emotions other than drinking, drugs, or in a few cases, ... getting violent.

I'd say the danger of post-break-up violence has to be more urgent than terrorists coming into our schools. Kids need to learn how to manage these very big and threatening emotions that come from rejection.

Feeling very sad and heartbroken for the deceased parents, the surviving children/family in this scenario. Tragic.


Wow . . .immature teens dealing with rejection. That's very "privileged" thinking. Maybe his attorney should use it at his trial.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:17     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Emotionally stunted people -- which includes most teens -- have a hard time accepting rejection.

Here you have a teen who probably doesn't have many emotional connections other than the girlfriend. Girl's parents have good reason for wanting her to end it. She does. Boy is in distress and doesn't know how to deal with rejection. Probably plays to girl's emotions that he loves her/she understands him/he might do something to hurt himself. She lets him in to either calm him down or at least be a friend.... parents discover him.

He sees girl's parents as the cause of his anguish and because he is impulsive (and has been feeding himself violence for sometime), he reacts by taking out those who are (in his mind) inflicting the pain on him. He realizes the severity of his impulses in a matter of seconds and attempts to end his pain permanently.

These types of post-break-up shootings happen all over -- for teens in schools where they kill the ex girl friend and her new boyfriend, or with grown men and their ex-wives/girlfriends.

The Nazi stuff is relevant to the extent that (a) the parents precipitated the break up and (b) the shooter was primed for violence. But, ultimately, I think this will be a story of immature teen not dealing with rejection and loss.

I wonder if the school counselors in this area (who already have their hands full with issues to teach) ever deal with the emotional health issues of what to do when a relationship ends. We have all been there and at least for girls -- we cry and whine to our friends until they can't stand it anymore.... but the desperation we feel --- especially when young -- is very real. I'm not sure boys have as many outlets for their emotions other than drinking, drugs, or in a few cases, ... getting violent.

I'd say the danger of post-break-up violence has to be more urgent than terrorists coming into our schools. Kids need to learn how to manage these very big and threatening emotions that come from rejection.

Feeling very sad and heartbroken for the deceased parents, the surviving children/family in this scenario. Tragic.


Hate to say it, but too many kids are not able to accept and understand this. Such is life for the snowflake "everyone gets a trophy" "take me to my safe space" generation.


I don't think it has as much to do with the everyone gets a trophy (in fact I'd think the opposite), but it probably has a lot to do with social media and the quest for perfection and importance because of it. Studies show social media often leads to depression. Still just about everyone has been rejected by someone they're interested in and they don't resort to violence because of it.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:11     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:1601, you are missing the same point as the other genius. Just because someone is a Trump supporter doesn't mean they are a Nazi. What would you say if someone came up and asked you about Lenin or Stalin or communism, all of which have strong relationships with the left side of our democracy?


Agreed but this person was a Nazi and from what I've read of the parents they were Trump supporters.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:10     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Emotionally stunted people -- which includes most teens -- have a hard time accepting rejection.

Here you have a teen who probably doesn't have many emotional connections other than the girlfriend. Girl's parents have good reason for wanting her to end it. She does. Boy is in distress and doesn't know how to deal with rejection. Probably plays to girl's emotions that he loves her/she understands him/he might do something to hurt himself. She lets him in to either calm him down or at least be a friend.... parents discover him.

He sees girl's parents as the cause of his anguish and because he is impulsive (and has been feeding himself violence for sometime), he reacts by taking out those who are (in his mind) inflicting the pain on him. He realizes the severity of his impulses in a matter of seconds and attempts to end his pain permanently.

These types of post-break-up shootings happen all over -- for teens in schools where they kill the ex girl friend and her new boyfriend, or with grown men and their ex-wives/girlfriends.

The Nazi stuff is relevant to the extent that (a) the parents precipitated the break up and (b) the shooter was primed for violence. But, ultimately, I think this will be a story of immature teen not dealing with rejection and loss.

I wonder if the school counselors in this area (who already have their hands full with issues to teach) ever deal with the emotional health issues of what to do when a relationship ends. We have all been there and at least for girls -- we cry and whine to our friends until they can't stand it anymore.... but the desperation we feel --- especially when young -- is very real. I'm not sure boys have as many outlets for their emotions other than drinking, drugs, or in a few cases, ... getting violent.

I'd say the danger of post-break-up violence has to be more urgent than terrorists coming into our schools. Kids need to learn how to manage these very big and threatening emotions that come from rejection.

Feeling very sad and heartbroken for the deceased parents, the surviving children/family in this scenario. Tragic.


Hate to say it, but too many kids are not able to accept and understand this. Such is life for the snowflake "everyone gets a trophy" "take me to my safe space" generation.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:10     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Emotionally stunted people -- which includes most teens -- have a hard time accepting rejection.

Here you have a teen who probably doesn't have many emotional connections other than the girlfriend. Girl's parents have good reason for wanting her to end it. She does. Boy is in distress and doesn't know how to deal with rejection. Probably plays to girl's emotions that he loves her/she understands him/he might do something to hurt himself. She lets him in to either calm him down or at least be a friend.... parents discover him.

He sees girl's parents as the cause of his anguish and because he is impulsive (and has been feeding himself violence for sometime), he reacts by taking out those who are (in his mind) inflicting the pain on him. He realizes the severity of his impulses in a matter of seconds and attempts to end his pain permanently.

These types of post-break-up shootings happen all over -- for teens in schools where they kill the ex girl friend and her new boyfriend, or with grown men and their ex-wives/girlfriends.

The Nazi stuff is relevant to the extent that (a) the parents precipitated the break up and (b) the shooter was primed for violence. But, ultimately, I think this will be a story of immature teen not dealing with rejection and loss.

I wonder if the school counselors in this area (who already have their hands full with issues to teach) ever deal with the emotional health issues of what to do when a relationship ends. We have all been there and at least for girls -- we cry and whine to our friends until they can't stand it anymore.... but the desperation we feel --- especially when young -- is very real. I'm not sure boys have as many outlets for their emotions other than drinking, drugs, or in a few cases, ... getting violent.

I'd say the danger of post-break-up violence has to be more urgent than terrorists coming into our schools. Kids need to learn how to manage these very big and threatening emotions that come from rejection.

Feeling very sad and heartbroken for the deceased parents, the surviving children/family in this scenario. Tragic.


I can agree with this and still think the blame is entirely with the child and his parents. It doesn't make anything right that was done. Schools should be promoting inclusivity and acceptance and parents should be the main teachers. Schools and the community are just supplemental to a parent's role. This school seemed to specialize in helping with these types of behaviors more than others. The parents seem negligent in their duty.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:09     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Emotionally stunted people -- which includes most teens -- have a hard time accepting rejection.

Here you have a teen who probably doesn't have many emotional connections other than the girlfriend. Girl's parents have good reason for wanting her to end it. She does. Boy is in distress and doesn't know how to deal with rejection. Probably plays to girl's emotions that he loves her/she understands him/he might do something to hurt himself. She lets him in to either calm him down or at least be a friend.... parents discover him.

He sees girl's parents as the cause of his anguish and because he is impulsive (and has been feeding himself violence for sometime), he reacts by taking out those who are (in his mind) inflicting the pain on him. He realizes the severity of his impulses in a matter of seconds and attempts to end his pain permanently.

These types of post-break-up shootings happen all over -- for teens in schools where they kill the ex girl friend and her new boyfriend, or with grown men and their ex-wives/girlfriends.

The Nazi stuff is relevant to the extent that (a) the parents precipitated the break up and (b) the shooter was primed for violence. But, ultimately, I think this will be a story of immature teen not dealing with rejection and loss.

I wonder if the school counselors in this area (who already have their hands full with issues to teach) ever deal with the emotional health issues of what to do when a relationship ends. We have all been there and at least for girls -- we cry and whine to our friends until they can't stand it anymore.... but the desperation we feel --- especially when young -- is very real. I'm not sure boys have as many outlets for their emotions other than drinking, drugs, or in a few cases, ... getting violent.

I'd say the danger of post-break-up violence has to be more urgent than terrorists coming into our schools. Kids need to learn how to manage these very big and threatening emotions that come from rejection.

Feeling very sad and heartbroken for the deceased parents, the surviving children/family in this scenario. Tragic.


Couldn’t have said it better. I agree with all of this.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:06     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

1601, you are missing the same point as the other genius. Just because someone is a Trump supporter doesn't mean they are a Nazi. What would you say if someone came up and asked you about Lenin or Stalin or communism, all of which have strong relationships with the left side of our democracy?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:03     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Emotionally stunted people -- which includes most teens -- have a hard time accepting rejection.

Here you have a teen who probably doesn't have many emotional connections other than the girlfriend. Girl's parents have good reason for wanting her to end it. She does. Boy is in distress and doesn't know how to deal with rejection. Probably plays to girl's emotions that he loves her/she understands him/he might do something to hurt himself. She lets him in to either calm him down or at least be a friend.... parents discover him.

He sees girl's parents as the cause of his anguish and because he is impulsive (and has been feeding himself violence for sometime), he reacts by taking out those who are (in his mind) inflicting the pain on him. He realizes the severity of his impulses in a matter of seconds and attempts to end his pain permanently.

These types of post-break-up shootings happen all over -- for teens in schools where they kill the ex girl friend and her new boyfriend, or with grown men and their ex-wives/girlfriends.

The Nazi stuff is relevant to the extent that (a) the parents precipitated the break up and (b) the shooter was primed for violence. But, ultimately, I think this will be a story of immature teen not dealing with rejection and loss.

I wonder if the school counselors in this area (who already have their hands full with issues to teach) ever deal with the emotional health issues of what to do when a relationship ends. We have all been there and at least for girls -- we cry and whine to our friends until they can't stand it anymore.... but the desperation we feel --- especially when young -- is very real. I'm not sure boys have as many outlets for their emotions other than drinking, drugs, or in a few cases, ... getting violent.

I'd say the danger of post-break-up violence has to be more urgent than terrorists coming into our schools. Kids need to learn how to manage these very big and threatening emotions that come from rejection.

Feeling very sad and heartbroken for the deceased parents, the surviving children/family in this scenario. Tragic.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:02     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:15:44. The shooter was a neo Nazi. It's on his twitter and he mowed a swastika. His relationship to neo Nazism is very clear. You look stupider by the minute.


I mean really. Some folks just having it mentioned that ANYONE is a Nazi. Its bizarre.

I don't think liberals mind hearing that SOME people are actually communists or anarchists.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:01     Subject: Shooting in Reston

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Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Certainly no one deserves to be murdered. However, based on what we've read in the paper about her actions, it is safe to say that as time goes on we will all see that the mom made some significant errors in the way she handled the situation and that, in turn, caused the children to make their own bad choices.


Oh my goodness. So the mom made the boy kill her. Wow.


Consider how desperate the kid felt, given he turned the gun on himself. That is the point all you social justice warriors are missing.


Being suicidal does not mean someone is not a terrorist. Again, lots of islamic suicide bombers are desperate, suicidal, etc.

Not sure why someone needs to be an SJW to think that being a neoNazi just MIGHT have played a role in this (apart from the motive for the girls mom to not want them dating)



Because the girls parents weren't Jewish, and there does not seem to be any racial or political motivation behind this? He was pissed off at his girlfriend's parents for trying to force them to breakup.


+1


+2 - This in a nutshell.


The connection of the crime to naziism is that he agreed with them on resorting to violence to solve problems. From his twitter page, he was no stranger to guns. There is a difference between being angry at a set of parents for interfering and killing them.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2017 16:01     Subject: Shooting in Reston

15:44, no one is calling everyone a Nazi! People are only calling those who identify as Nazis Nazis. Such as this murderer. Such as the people in Charlottesville. And the numbers of out and proud Nazis in America are growing.

People don’t call Trump a Nazi but they do say he didn’t clearly or quickly condemn Nazis.

I asked a question earlier about Trump supporters feelings about Nazism because I rarely see a Trump fan say Nazis are wrong and evil. And that is scary.