Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 20:23     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:Not sure which is more entertaining and crazy, this thread or the N Virginia travel soccer thread.


+1 Crazy parents everywhere. If my kid can't larticipate, I want to make sure no kid can. It's nuts, because it certainly doesn't solve the problem of my kid having two left feet. Or the GE kid just not being able to hack it in AAP.

I hate that we apnow expect our kids to line taught to the level of the weat kid in the school or on the team, because some parent has an overly fragile ego. It's the worst of the every kid is gifted/ talented/ deserves a medal metlty.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 16:04     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:The Gifted Movement is sick and wrong. It goes against the very fundamentals of public education - equal access, equal opportunity for all. Tracking in education should not be tolerated in a democratic society. The only reason gifted education gained footing was as backlash in the '70's when the Disabilities Act was passed.

*citation needed.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 15:46     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
The Gifted Movement is sick and wrong. It goes against the very fundamentals of public education - equal access, equal opportunity for all. Tracking in education should not be tolerated in a democratic society. The only reason gifted education gained footing was as backlash in the '70's when the Disabilities Act was passed.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 15:30     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Not sure which is more entertaining and crazy, this thread or the N Virginia travel soccer thread.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 15:26     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
disdain, obviously meant that
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 15:25     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Many parents have great distain for the program as a whole.

If you don't know this, be grateful for how many are courteous and civil out in the community, face to face, when not contributing to this forum.

Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 14:54     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Half the people critical of AAP have kids in the "program"? That's vague and nonsensical. What part of the program? The level III pull-outs? The local level IV? Or the level IV centers? If you have kids in a level IV center and you hate it, did you ever stop to think that it's your particular toxic school and not all centers that may be the problem?

In reality, the majority of parents who have kids in level IV centers are positive about them. As intelligent and critical thinkers, we all have our critiques of everything. The real issue to focus on is what's going on in Gen Ed, which is riddled with problems.


Actually our school's LLIV program has just as many issues.


Operative words bolded. It doesn't mean the program as a whole.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 14:27     Subject: Re:Sound off if you think AAP is BS
a few disgruntled naysayers to the contrary, most parents who have kids with any shot at all at getting in are going to apply. And refer or appeal if necessary.
Very lucky to have this option in FCPS. Because of it we were able to hold off on sending DC to private until HS.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 13:09     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:Half the people critical of AAP have kids in the "program"? That's vague and nonsensical. What part of the program? The level III pull-outs? The local level IV? Or the level IV centers? If you have kids in a level IV center and you hate it, did you ever stop to think that it's your particular toxic school and not all centers that may be the problem?

In reality, the majority of parents who have kids in level IV centers are positive about them. As intelligent and critical thinkers, we all have our critiques of everything. The real issue to focus on is what's going on in Gen Ed, which is riddled with problems.


Actually our school's LLIV program has just as many issues.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 13:08     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Half the people critical of AAP have kids in the "program"? That's vague and nonsensical. What part of the program? The level III pull-outs? The local level IV? Or the level IV centers? If you have kids in a level IV center and you hate it, did you ever stop to think that it's your particular toxic school and not all centers that may be the problem?

In reality, the majority of parents who have kids in level IV centers are positive about them. As intelligent and critical thinkers, we all have our critiques of everything. The real issue to focus on is what's going on in Gen Ed, which is riddled with problems.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 11:53     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Not reading the whole thread, because I'm sure it contains the same AAP bashing as every other thread with the exact same parents. All four of you should get together and start a climb. So *Yawn*. And get over it. Your kid was not in the top 15%. So cope.

But also, imagine if you took all of the ranting and raving and channeled it somewhere productive, like starting an FCAG type advocacy group for GE kids. Less fun that venting ad infinitim, I know. But it could lead to constructive suggestions to make GE better (since no matter how you contort your arguments, your kids will never sit on an AAP classroom).

Or you could continue with the sour grapes, tweenage girl type griping. Which no one takes seriously.


You really don't get it do you? Half the people critical of AAP, and I am one of them, have kids in the program. But I guess dismissing people who care more about a system and its effects on everyone, as opposed to just their own kids, is the only way you "AAP or die" folks can make your argument.

And I and several people I know have channeled plenty of energy into productive pursuits to make the schools better for all kids. This includes advocating against AAP as it currently exists. You do realize that this is how change happens, don't you? Or was that perhaps not included in your paint-by-number to achievement schooling? YAWN, right back at you.


Not PP, but is this intended to elicit gasps? Self haters are still haters. Change does NOT start with statements like "AAP wrecks the emotional health of all students". If you believe that, you could always quit the program. Or is there something more specific your AAP kids have that you'd like to take away from them?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 11:45     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Not reading the whole thread, because I'm sure it contains the same AAP bashing as every other thread with the exact same parents. All four of you should get together and start a climb. So *Yawn*. And get over it. Your kid was not in the top 15%. So cope.

But also, imagine if you took all of the ranting and raving and channeled it somewhere productive, like starting an FCAG type advocacy group for GE kids. Less fun that venting ad infinitim, I know. But it could lead to constructive suggestions to make GE better (since no matter how you contort your arguments, your kids will never sit on an AAP classroom).

Or you could continue with the sour grapes, tweenage girl type griping. Which no one takes seriously.


I agree, but shouldn't FCPS start one? They have many committees but not one for general ed. Why?


See FCPS has this committee (in addition to FCAG) but there is no general ed committee either at the County level or as a volunteer organization. https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-advisory-committee
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 11:45     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Not reading the whole thread, because I'm sure it contains the same AAP bashing as every other thread with the exact same parents. All four of you should get together and start a climb. So *Yawn*. And get over it. Your kid was not in the top 15%. So cope.

But also, imagine if you took all of the ranting and raving and channeled it somewhere productive, like starting an FCAG type advocacy group for GE kids. Less fun that venting ad infinitim, I know. But it could lead to constructive suggestions to make GE better (since no matter how you contort your arguments, your kids will never sit on an AAP classroom).

Or you could continue with the sour grapes, tweenage girl type griping. Which no one takes seriously.


I agree, but shouldn't FCPS start one? They have many committees but not one for general ed. Why?

The school board IS the Gen Ed committee. Whatever is not a special committee is Gen Ed. What else would it be?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 11:36     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Not reading the whole thread, because I'm sure it contains the same AAP bashing as every other thread with the exact same parents. All four of you should get together and start a climb. So *Yawn*. And get over it. Your kid was not in the top 15%. So cope.

But also, imagine if you took all of the ranting and raving and channeled it somewhere productive, like starting an FCAG type advocacy group for GE kids. Less fun that venting ad infinitim, I know. But it could lead to constructive suggestions to make GE better (since no matter how you contort your arguments, your kids will never sit on an AAP classroom).

Or you could continue with the sour grapes, tweenage girl type griping. Which no one takes seriously.


You really don't get it do you? Half the people critical of AAP, and I am one of them, have kids in the program. But I guess dismissing people who care more about a system and its effects on everyone, as opposed to just their own kids, is the only way you "AAP or die" folks can make your argument.

And I and several people I know have channeled plenty of energy into productive pursuits to make the schools better for all kids. This includes advocating against AAP as it currently exists. You do realize that this is how change happens, don't you? Or was that perhaps not included in your paint-by-number to achievement schooling? YAWN, right back at you.

Anonymous
Post 10/31/2016 11:35     Subject: Sound off if you think AAP is BS
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Not reading the whole thread, because I'm sure it contains the same AAP bashing as every other thread with the exact same parents. All four of you should get together and start a climb. So *Yawn*. And get over it. Your kid was not in the top 15%. So cope.

But also, imagine if you took all of the ranting and raving and channeled it somewhere productive, like starting an FCAG type advocacy group for GE kids. Less fun that venting ad infinitim, I know. But it could lead to constructive suggestions to make GE better (since no matter how you contort your arguments, your kids will never sit on an AAP classroom).

Or you could continue with the sour grapes, tweenage girl type griping. Which no one takes seriously.


I agree, but shouldn't FCPS start one? They have many committees but not one for general ed. Why?