Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:52     Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Well sir, they did more than merely trespass. Lochte ripped a door off its hinges and threw it to the ground. They vandalized the bathroom. It's there on the videotape. You should search it up and watch it.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:48     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Armed robbery would be someone who did not belong on the premises walking up with a gun demanding cash while they were doing who knows what out back of that gas station. They had no business being there as long as they were simply to use the restroom. They made no purchases while there.

This is a security guard who belonged on the premises asking for payment for damages .. Now how much this payment should have been is up for discussion and borders on extortion. But it ain't armed robbery. Stores stop shoplifters on a regular basis and demand that they wait for cops to arrive, do not leave the premises with stolen merchandise, etc... Again, even if it's an armed guard stopping you at Kohls and demanding you pay for what you were stealing, it is not armed robbery.


So if you stray off the sideway onto my grass I can pull a gun on you and demand money without it being an armed robbery, simple because I belong here and you don't? That doesn't make any sense.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:40     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Armed robbery would be someone who did not belong on the premises walking up with a gun demanding cash while they were doing who knows what out back of that gas station. They had no business being there as long as they were simply to use the restroom. They made no purchases while there.

This is a security guard who belonged on the premises asking for payment for damages .. Now how much this payment should have been is up for discussion and borders on extortion. But it ain't armed robbery. Stores stop shoplifters on a regular basis and demand that they wait for cops to arrive, do not leave the premises with stolen merchandise, etc... Again, even if it's an armed guard stopping you at Kohls and demanding you pay for what you were stealing, it is not armed robbery.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:36     Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude thinks that if he keeps screaming "it was an armed robbery" it makes it true in spite of all facts to the contrary. smh

This is why we can't have nice things, sheeple.



DP. There really aren't any facts to the contrary, just missing facts. There are three minutes missing in the video the Brazilian officials put out. In it, you see the men sitting in the car with several uniformed people standing around looking at them. Then [three mintues later] you see them getting out of the car with their wallets out, one of them puts his hands up, and they're walking off camera.

If what happened in those three minutes were really the way things should be handled in a case of vandalism, why wouldn't Brazilian officials want us to see it?


Here's the video that points out the changing time stamp: http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/08/18/ryan-lochte-robbery-lie-rio/
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:35     Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Dude thinks that if he keeps screaming "it was an armed robbery" it makes it true in spite of all facts to the contrary. smh

This is why we can't have nice things, sheeple.



DP. There really aren't any facts to the contrary, just missing facts. There are three minutes missing in the video the Brazilian officials put out. In it, you see the men sitting in the car with several uniformed people standing around looking at them. Then [three mintues later] you see them getting out of the car with their wallets out, one of them puts his hands up, and they're walking off camera.

If what happened in those three minutes were really the way things should be handled in a case of vandalism, why wouldn't Brazilian officials want us to see it?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:19     Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
But would you describe it as an armed robbery?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:18     Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Dude thinks that if he keeps screaming "it was an armed robbery" it makes it true in spite of all facts to the contrary. smh

This is why we can't have nice things, sheeple.

Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:11     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:According to the paper this morning the swimmers met with USOC and State Dept and everyone agreed not to talk about it and let it get resolved/blow over, and then Lochte walked across the street and gave a tv interview with his BS story.

I hope USOC finds some way to show that this is unacceptable-- even if it's meaningless like kicking him off the team.


Attention seeker. Plain and simple. The other 3 didn't say much at all publicly -- maybe bc they were abiding by what the USOC/State Dept told them to do. 2 said nothing, and I think Gunnar Bentz tweeted out that he was safe.


Eventually Feigen agreed that there was an armed robbery. This was Wednesday or Thursday, after everything was blowing up.


That's because there WAS AN ARMED ROBBERY. Person points gun + demands money = armed robbery. Why aren't people getting that?!

Lochte isn't very smart, we all know that. He should not have done that iPhone interview with Billy Bush, but he was shaken up, he was caught off guard, he wasn't with his PR people...Not sure he knew any better so he did the interview.


It wasn't an armed robbery. The security guard was trying to control the situation with 4 massive men who were at the gas station to use the bathroom NOT to buy gas. They weren't even customers. Feign and Bentz are both 6 feet 5 inches, Conger is 6 feet 4 inches and Lochte is 6 feet 2 inches. And all of them have huge muscles. They were wild and drunk. They gas station owner could have called the police and they all could have gotten arrested for disorderly conduct and vandalism. Instead they said pay us for the damage. They didn't take their wallets, jewelry, or phone. Imagine if 4 drunk massive brazilians were destroying a bathroom gas station in the US and the security guard pulled out a gun. No one would blink an eye.


I haven't seen any proof or disorderly conduct or vandalism. But Ive sure seen proof of an armed robbery
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:08     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
Being forced to pay for things you broke is not robbery. It's not how the US would've handled things but it's not like they were innocent, well behaved Angels visiting this gas station and feeding the poor and homeless.


Being forced to give up all your money at gunpoint is robbery. Period.


^^You really do sound like an 8 year old boy playing cops and robbers. Many on this thread, including myself are actual lawyers. The simplistic, aggressive people on here defending this fool--smh
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:03     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
No way was this an "armed robbery" and the swimmers were not in the right at any point.

Nowhere in America can you to a bar or convenience store, cause damage and then demand to be allowed to leave without making restitution or waiting for the police.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:00     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:According to the paper this morning the swimmers met with USOC and State Dept and everyone agreed not to talk about it and let it get resolved/blow over, and then Lochte walked across the street and gave a tv interview with his BS story.

I hope USOC finds some way to show that this is unacceptable-- even if it's meaningless like kicking him off the team.


Attention seeker. Plain and simple. The other 3 didn't say much at all publicly -- maybe bc they were abiding by what the USOC/State Dept told them to do. 2 said nothing, and I think Gunnar Bentz tweeted out that he was safe.


Eventually Feigen agreed that there was an armed robbery. This was Wednesday or Thursday, after everything was blowing up.


That's because there WAS AN ARMED ROBBERY. Person points gun + demands money = armed robbery. Why aren't people getting that?!

Lochte isn't very smart, we all know that. He should not have done that iPhone interview with Billy Bush, but he was shaken up, he was caught off guard, he wasn't with his PR people...Not sure he knew any better so he did the interview.


If you're overwhelmed and you go meet with the State Dept and the USOC and they say -- don't talk to anyone about it, let it blow over. In what universe does that translate to -- leave meeting; walk across the street; find Billy Bush; and give an interview?? Whether your PR guys are with your or not, you should be thinking -- State Dept/USOC told me not to talk, so I guess I'll leave here, go back to the village, and grab myself a pizza for lunch.


This was after his mom blabbed to the press. He was approached by the media, it's not like he ran over to them to break the story. I'm not saying mistakes weren't made, but I believe those guys were wronged. Were the details matched up perfectly? No. Did they leave out their wrong doing? Yes. But that still doesn't excuse the fact that they were held at gunpoint and demanded to give up their cash.


If you're a grown man approached by the media minutes/hours after the State Dept/IOC says -- don't speak -- why on earth would you speak? Why wouldn't you say "no comments" or "no interviews at this time," even if you have to be rude to the media?? Michael Phelps just did it upon his return to Phoenix and got downright standoffish with a reporter screaming out questions and said -- I'm not taking questions right now, if you want an interview, call my agent. Ryan's an attention seeker, plain and simple.

As for being held at gunpoint and demanded cash -- eh. They knew where they were. This is how things are settled in the developing world. Didn't they realize that? Did they think they were at their friendly Exxon in Rockville or Charlotte where any disagreement would lead to the police being called??
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 13:00     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
The unaired 3min of that tape are more likely to destroy that argument than support it. If the unaired 3 min showed anything positive in The swimmers' favor, their lawyers would have leaked it by now.


I seriously am loving how dumb you are. Do you understand that the swimmers don't have access to the unaired video footage, any more than you or I do? Why would they? Let me know if you need me to walk you through this.


^^so you have personal knowledge of what their lawyers are privy to? I didn't think so. You have major anger issues.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 12:58     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:According to the paper this morning the swimmers met with USOC and State Dept and everyone agreed not to talk about it and let it get resolved/blow over, and then Lochte walked across the street and gave a tv interview with his BS story.

I hope USOC finds some way to show that this is unacceptable-- even if it's meaningless like kicking him off the team.


Attention seeker. Plain and simple. The other 3 didn't say much at all publicly -- maybe bc they were abiding by what the USOC/State Dept told them to do. 2 said nothing, and I think Gunnar Bentz tweeted out that he was safe.


Eventually Feigen agreed that there was an armed robbery. This was Wednesday or Thursday, after everything was blowing up.


That's because there WAS AN ARMED ROBBERY. Person points gun + demands money = armed robbery. Why aren't people getting that?!

Lochte isn't very smart, we all know that. He should not have done that iPhone interview with Billy Bush, but he was shaken up, he was caught off guard, he wasn't with his PR people...Not sure he knew any better so he did the interview.


It wasn't an armed robbery. The security guard was trying to control the situation with 4 massive men who were at the gas station to use the bathroom NOT to buy gas. They weren't even customers. Feign and Bentz are both 6 feet 5 inches, Conger is 6 feet 4 inches and Lochte is 6 feet 2 inches. And all of them have huge muscles. They were wild and drunk. They gas station owner could have called the police and they all could have gotten arrested for disorderly conduct and vandalism. Instead they said pay us for the damage. They didn't take their wallets, jewelry, or phone. Imagine if 4 drunk massive brazilians were destroying a bathroom gas station in the US and the security guard pulled out a gun. No one would blink an eye.


Not true at all. The outrage would be huge.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 12:56     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:According to the paper this morning the swimmers met with USOC and State Dept and everyone agreed not to talk about it and let it get resolved/blow over, and then Lochte walked across the street and gave a tv interview with his BS story.

I hope USOC finds some way to show that this is unacceptable-- even if it's meaningless like kicking him off the team.


Attention seeker. Plain and simple. The other 3 didn't say much at all publicly -- maybe bc they were abiding by what the USOC/State Dept told them to do. 2 said nothing, and I think Gunnar Bentz tweeted out that he was safe.


Eventually Feigen agreed that there was an armed robbery. This was Wednesday or Thursday, after everything was blowing up.


That's because there WAS AN ARMED ROBBERY. Person points gun + demands money = armed robbery. Why aren't people getting that?!

Lochte isn't very smart, we all know that. He should not have done that iPhone interview with Billy Bush, but he was shaken up, he was caught off guard, he wasn't with his PR people...Not sure he knew any better so he did the interview.


Except in his interview he completely fabricated the entire story! He didn't mention being shitfaced at a gas station, pissing on a wall and someone demanding money afterwards, he said they were pulled over, ordered to the ground and he was the only one who refused.
Anyone with half a brain knows that you don't 'refuse' robbers armed with guns in a foreign country.

Oh, and that was an armed robbery, it was an extortion - which they could have fought except they knew they'd screwed up, and that's why they paid up and got out of there.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2016 12:53     Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:According to the paper this morning the swimmers met with USOC and State Dept and everyone agreed not to talk about it and let it get resolved/blow over, and then Lochte walked across the street and gave a tv interview with his BS story.

I hope USOC finds some way to show that this is unacceptable-- even if it's meaningless like kicking him off the team.


Attention seeker. Plain and simple. The other 3 didn't say much at all publicly -- maybe bc they were abiding by what the USOC/State Dept told them to do. 2 said nothing, and I think Gunnar Bentz tweeted out that he was safe.


Eventually Feigen agreed that there was an armed robbery. This was Wednesday or Thursday, after everything was blowing up.


That's because there WAS AN ARMED ROBBERY. Person points gun + demands money = armed robbery. Why aren't people getting that?!

Lochte isn't very smart, we all know that. He should not have done that iPhone interview with Billy Bush, but he was shaken up, he was caught off guard, he wasn't with his PR people...Not sure he knew any better so he did the interview.


It wasn't an armed robbery. The security guard was trying to control the situation with 4 massive men who were at the gas station to use the bathroom NOT to buy gas. They weren't even customers. Feign and Bentz are both 6 feet 5 inches, Conger is 6 feet 4 inches and Lochte is 6 feet 2 inches. And all of them have huge muscles. They were wild and drunk. They gas station owner could have called the police and they all could have gotten arrested for disorderly conduct and vandalism. Instead they said pay us for the damage. They didn't take their wallets, jewelry, or phone. Imagine if 4 drunk massive brazilians were destroying a bathroom gas station in the US and the security guard pulled out a gun. No one would blink an eye.