Does Bran need the Children to "plant" him or can he do that on his own? If he needs Children, and they're all dead, can this wheel (what did Tyrion call it?) finally stop?

LOL pp here. I posted earlier about Summer, not realizing that was the name of the wolf, not the main Forest person. This show has too many damn characters! But seriously, do the Children of the Forest have some sort of immortality or restore-abilities?

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Anonymous wrote:Quick question:

Brienne tells Sansa that she doesn't like the idea of leaving Sansa at Castle Black alone...then we see Sansa leaving with Jon. How did that change happen and where are they going? And Brienne is going to River Run to see LF? Did they discuss that and I missed it (I was distracted by a work email while I was watching).

Sansa talked Brienne into it. I see it as a really unrealistic story that Brienne would have gotten on board with this plan. It's not good that Sansa is unprotected.

I think they're trying to get Brienne back to her storyline in the books, which did not include her traveling to Castle Black. Last the book readers knew, she was in the Riverlands.

You're probably right. After all, based purely on the tv storyline, there's no reason to send Brienne down there and not Pog (? am I getting his name right? Brienne's former companion before running into Sansa)

Does Bran have to planted like a seed and let roots grow over him before he can see the past again? Will he become a tree with a face? Are all the Children dead now, did some live elsewhere, do they respawn with Bran?

Did you notice that none of the WW appear to be women? I find it interesting since it seems to be a world of women rulers, if not in name, but by function.

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Anonymous wrote:Quick question:

Brienne tells Sansa that she doesn't like the idea of leaving Sansa at Castle Black alone...then we see Sansa leaving with Jon. How did that change happen and where are they going? And Brienne is going to River Run to see LF? Did they discuss that and I missed it (I was distracted by a work email while I was watching).

Sansa talked Brienne into it. I see it as a really unrealistic story that Brienne would have gotten on board with this plan. It's not good that Sansa is unprotected.

I think they're trying to get Brienne back to her storyline in the books, which did not include her traveling to Castle Black. Last the book readers knew, she was in the Riverlands.

Anonymous wrote:Quick question:

Brienne tells Sansa that she doesn't like the idea of leaving Sansa at Castle Black alone...then we see Sansa leaving with Jon. How did that change happen and where are they going? And Brienne is going to River Run to see LF? Did they discuss that and I missed it (I was distracted by a work email while I was watching).

Sansa talked Brienne into it. I see it as a really unrealistic story that Brienne would have gotten on board with this plan. It's not good that Sansa is unprotected.

Anonymous wrote:I felt like the scene in the tree with the dead chasing poor Bran was very Walking Dead-ish. It was too much.

And with Sansa and Jon setting out I am very worried. I can't handle either of them dying.

Worse than that, I can't handle her getting taken back to Ramsay or Cersei.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I guess. That still doesn't make sense to me since Bran has warged into Hodor before without needing a conduit from the past. I guess they just needed an excuse to do the "Hodor" reveal.

Maybe because he was in the past right at that moment?

Yes I think it's because he can't go out of the visions at will yet. Bran doesn't seem that powerful. He knew something was wrong but couldn't get back to present day and he tried to go through Wylis in the past to get to current day Hodor.

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I guess. That still doesn't make sense to me since Bran has warged into Hodor before without needing a conduit from the past. I guess they just needed an excuse to do the "Hodor" reveal.

Maybe because he was in the past right at that moment?

Okay, I guess. That still doesn't make sense to me since Bran has warged into Hodor before without needing a conduit from the past. I guess they just needed an excuse to do the "Hodor" reveal.

A good explanation for the Hodor thing that I read on Reddit: Well from what I believe happened, Bran needed a conduit to get to Hodor in present day. Using Wylis caused Wylis to see through Hodor's eyes, and seeing Hodor's final moments. The warging caused a seizure that locked Wylis' mind onto that moment, so that last order from Meera was in his mind all his life and the only thing he could say. The seizure affected his speech so "hold the door" eventually became Hodor.

I'm a little confused about the Hodor thing. I get that Bran is warging into Hodor at the door. But why is that affecting teenage Wylis?

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Anonymous wrote:That was the saddest thing that has happened in the series. By far. At least with the red wedding, they made choices that led to that. Hodor was innocent. Hold the door.

I totally agree. It is the only death on this show that has made me cry.

Me, too. I just sat there bawling. Summer and Hodor.

I was so devastated by Summer's death that I was numb when we then had to watch Hodor die. That was the most gut wrenching GOT by far for me. Bran better be f*ing worth it that two such beloved characters died to protect his (dumb) ass. He brought this down on all of them with his immaturity. Ugh. Is there any way at all that maybe Summer didn't die? Why do they keep killing the dire wolves? Could the Children of the Forrest revive Summer? I don't think there is any hope for Hodor, I just pray he isn't made into a White Walker. I kept expecting Bran to "recognize" one of the wights in his "dream sequence" where he met the WW King.

1. The direwolves are expensive to animate, which is why they have such a reduced presence on the show vs. in the books, where they are all till alive except for Gray Wind (Robb's dead) and Lady (Sansa is sort of the most "lost" Stark without her). I'm sure the show runners are killing them off because they haven't built the same bond between the Starks and direwolves as in the book, and the expense is too much to keep them around. It sucks.

2. Bran was destined to do what happened, so there's no use in getting mad about it. After all, Hodor is Hodor and not Wyllis. So it was inevitable that he would have to "hold the door" and things would end up this way.

3. Were you expecting Bran to see Benjen? Because I sort of was. Poor Benjen, he's just been totally forgotten forever, huh?

4. Summer dying was way less gut wrenching to me than all the babies who have been killed. It's so horrible I have to fast forward through those parts.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I slept terribly last night. I think I was just totally stressed out by that episode...lol.

I was laying there thinking poor Meera dragging Bran away on his own. it's only a matter of time before they catch up to them. What's going to happen to Bran and Meera - and is there anywhere on the internet who will tell me what happens next so I can stop stressing out about it? (lol)

The books haven't gone this far, but there is a character in the books who has not been introduced in the show who I think may save them. I hope anyway. I'm stressed about it too.

Coldhands, for sure. This is a good (if unusual considering his much earlier appearance in the books) place to bring him in.

Anonymous wrote:Quick question:

Brienne tells Sansa that she doesn't like the idea of leaving Sansa at Castle Black alone...then we see Sansa leaving with Jon. How did that change happen and where are they going? And Brienne is going to River Run to see LF? Did they discuss that and I missed it (I was distracted by a work email while I was watching).

I thought Brienne was going to see the Tully uncle Blackfish or something like that?