Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:19
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Happy V is home with my friends. Matt and Mel never had any doubts about the responsibilities of parenthood, unlike Brown.
Agreed. At least the Capobiancos are not flip-floppers when it comes to deciding they want to be hands on.
He had no options. Its not like dad's get automatic custody when kids are born. He was active duty and about to be deployed. They are required to sign consents for custody before deploying. Its normal. My husband did it for us as he had to show proof.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:12
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She belongs with her bio-Dad. I don't see how the adoptive family can even sleep at night knowing this child is wanted by her family of origin and yet still wanting to keep her, as if she's a pet and not a human.
Agreed. Adoption should not be about taking children from parents willing to raise their children. This entire case is a disgrace. At the very least, the biological Dad should be allowed 50/50 custody of the child.
Adoption should not be about taking children from parents who are willing to raise them. He indicated that he was NOT interested in raising the child. READ his testimony.
Once you give up your parental rights - within whatever time of revocation the law allows - you are DONE. You should never, under any circumstances, be able to undo it. It is completely unfair to the child and the people adopting her.
Once you adopt a child they become YOUR child. They become a family member. You don't get an "oops wait a minute" when you give up your baby for adoption. And you don't get an "oops wait a minute" pass when you tell your pregnant ex GF that you will not raise the child.
He signed the papers. I don't want to hear that he didn't know what he was signing, or he wasn't in the right state of mind, or whatever other lame excuses he wants to make. He made a decision, he abdicated his responsibility, the courts made the right decision. I am only sorry the child, the adoptive parents, and the bio mom had to suffer so much as a result of his selfish, idiotic behavior.
+1000, agreed on every count.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:11
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Oh god, when will this thread die? When? It's never ending. Move on.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:10
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Happy V is home with my friends. Matt and Mel never had any doubts about the responsibilities of parenthood, unlike Brown.
Cliche, but there are no winners here, and it's a rough situation for all involved. I am happy for your friends, and I'm very happy ICWA is being looked at. Also happy to read that V recognized them immediately and seems very happy to be with them.
Many sympathies to the Brown family. Despite all he did (or didn't do) at the beginning, it's hard to have to give up your kid like that. It's a real shame the court system moves so slowly.
He did not give up his child. She was taken from him.
This is a lie. Perhaps you don't like the outcome, but to say that Mr. Brown didn't give up Veronica and that she was "taken" is egregiously false, and does not help your position in the least.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:10
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Legally Sanctioned Kidnapping...That is really all this is about.
Exactly!
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:04
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Happy V is home with my friends. Matt and Mel never had any doubts about the responsibilities of parenthood, unlike Brown.
Agreed. At least the Capobiancos are not flip-floppers when it comes to deciding they want to be hands on.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:00
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She belongs with her bio-Dad. I don't see how the adoptive family can even sleep at night knowing this child is wanted by her family of origin and yet still wanting to keep her, as if she's a pet and not a human.
Agreed. Adoption should not be about taking children from parents willing to raise their children. This entire case is a disgrace. At the very least, the biological Dad should be allowed 50/50 custody of the child.
Adoption should not be about taking children from parents who are willing to raise them. He indicated that he was NOT interested in raising the child. READ his testimony.
Once you give up your parental rights - within whatever time of revocation the law allows - you are DONE. You should never, under any circumstances, be able to undo it. It is completely unfair to the child and the people adopting her.
Once you adopt a child they become YOUR child. They become a family member. You don't get an "oops wait a minute" when you give up your baby for adoption. And you don't get an "oops wait a minute" pass when you tell your pregnant ex GF that you will not raise the child.
He signed the papers. I don't want to hear that he didn't know what he was signing, or he wasn't in the right state of mind, or whatever other lame excuses he wants to make. He made a decision, he abdicated his responsibility, the courts made the right decision. I am only sorry the child, the adoptive parents, and the bio mom had to suffer so much as a result of his selfish, idiotic behavior.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 14:00
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
The damn baby was kidnapped. These two horrible people at the helm of this should be ashamed.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 13:24
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Legally Sanctioned Kidnapping...That is really all this is about.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 13:10
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Happy V is home with my friends. Matt and Mel never had any doubts about the responsibilities of parenthood, unlike Brown.
Cliche, but there are no winners here, and it's a rough situation for all involved. I am happy for your friends, and I'm very happy ICWA is being looked at. Also happy to read that V recognized them immediately and seems very happy to be with them.
Many sympathies to the Brown family. Despite all he did (or didn't do) at the beginning, it's hard to have to give up your kid like that. It's a real shame the court system moves so slowly.
He did not give up his child. She was taken from him.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 13:09
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is the truth: I am not a deadbeat dad. I did not abandon my daughter. I did not wait to "step up to the plate" until Veronica was 4 months old. I have been at the plate since I rejoiced at the news my fiancée was pregnant. I did not change my mind about how involved I wanted to be with Veronica. I have loved her and wanted her since the moment I knew she was to be my daughter.
My life was turned upside down when I was served with the adoption papers. Stupidly, I thought they were papers doing what we had texted about, giving Christy full custody while I was gone. It was literally the moment I finished signing that the server told me, "You just gave up your baby." I tried to grab the papers from his hand and he told me if I took them I would go to jail. I hired an attorney right away and gave my father power of attorney to fight for custody of Veronica while I was off at war.
Ever since that day I have been in a legal battle for the right to raise my daughter. Ever since that day I have seen horrible things written about me. I have seen how the public has come to terrible conclusions about me. I've accepted that people will do and say anything to win custody of Veronica. But what I can't accept is that the courts would allow these lies to sway their decisions. Somewhere in their rush to punish me for what they mistakenly think I've done, they stopped talking about what is best for my daughter.
Yes, a deadbeat dad who fought for four years for his daughter, and risked going to jail.
I wish all deadbeat dads were like that.
Not to forget risking his military career, which will follow him forever if he is dishonorably discharged.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 12:26
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
I hope Oklahoma bans that adoption agency from working in the state...no recruitment of moms or placement of kids
Anonymous
09/30/2013 12:13
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Happy V is home with my friends. Matt and Mel never had any doubts about the responsibilities of parenthood, unlike Brown.
Cliche, but there are no winners here, and it's a rough situation for all involved. I am happy for your friends, and I'm very happy ICWA is being looked at. Also happy to read that V recognized them immediately and seems very happy to be with them.
Many sympathies to the Brown family. Despite all he did (or didn't do) at the beginning, it's hard to have to give up your kid like that. It's a real shame the court system moves so slowly.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 12:03
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Anonymous wrote:Happy V is home with my friends. Matt and Mel never had any doubts about the responsibilities of parenthood, unlike Brown.
Then your friends should suck it up and pay their own damn bills....this is obviously all about money to them. They will now "prostitute" this poor child in the media and milk her for everything she's worth...not to mention milking her real father Dusten and Cherokee nation by their frivolous lawsuit against them. Your "friends" are vile scum, lower than low, they wont have to travel far to hell-their rightful, eternal "resting" place.
Anonymous
09/30/2013 11:48
Subject: Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!
Then work to change the law with your elected officials instead of wasting your voice here..