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Anonymous wrote:Johnson thinks they’ll get something by this weekend. Not sure if he’s just full of it though.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/pay/2025/10/despite-failed-senate-vote-lawmakers-hopeful-for-reaching-bipartisan-agreement-to-pay-feds/

Thats just a bill for pay, not for funding the govt.

You’re right. And it was Sen. Ron Johnson who said that. It would pay both furloughed and excepted workers but the shutdown would continue.

Anonymous wrote:Johnson thinks they’ll get something by this weekend. Not sure if he’s just full of it though.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/pay/2025/10/despite-failed-senate-vote-lawmakers-hopeful-for-reaching-bipartisan-agreement-to-pay-feds/

Thats just a bill for pay, not for funding the govt.

Johnson thinks they’ll get something by this weekend. Not sure if he’s just full of it though.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/pay/2025/10/despite-failed-senate-vote-lawmakers-hopeful-for-reaching-bipartisan-agreement-to-pay-feds/

Anonymous wrote:Welp they said this morning the government is never reopening

Hum those Epstein files must be bad bad bad

This. Our illustrious leaders will take the whole country down with them and leave people dying in the streets before they let those files out.

Anonymous wrote:Welp they said this morning the government is never reopening

Hum those Epstein files must be bad bad bad

Who is they?

Welp they said this morning the government is never reopening

Hum those Epstein files must be bad bad bad

Anonymous wrote:Is the sole reason to get rid of this because Democrats created it? Why are they dead set on hurting the people they are there to represent?

Never ascribe to malice that which may be explained by callous indifference.

Anonymous wrote:Is the sole reason to get rid of this because Democrats created it? Why are they dead set on hurting the people they are there to represent?

Both. I mean look at the thanks farmers are getting.

Is the sole reason to get rid of this because Democrats created it? Why are they dead set on hurting the people they are there to represent?

No jobs and no health care...what a time to be an American!

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Anonymous wrote:I remember two things that were prevalent pre-ACA: Large numbers of uninsured people showing up at ERs for routine medical care (because they couldn’t be turned away for inability to pay) and working class people with “pre-existing conditions” going bankrupt and losing their homes to pay for life saving care.

This (bankruptcy) can still happen because so many mental health charges and charges for rare conditions are not covered.

Perfect is the enemy of the good.

Anonymous wrote:I remember two things that were prevalent pre-ACA: Large numbers of uninsured people showing up at ERs for routine medical care (because they couldn’t be turned away for inability to pay) and working class people with “pre-existing conditions” going bankrupt and losing their homes to pay for life saving care.

This (bankruptcy) can still happen because so many mental health charges and charges for rare conditions are not covered.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

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Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

I'd like to see a referendum on spending tax money on going to Mars. I can't imagine most U.S. citizens are interested in paying more for healthcare for the sake of getting to Mars. Like sure, I'll pay higher premiums so we can send a few spaceships to Mars in a few decades. So worth it to the average citizen wanting to retire by 65.

This is unbelievably obtuse. Federal spending on healthcare is about $2,000B per year. Federal spending on human space flight is roughly $10B per year. Are you seriously suggesting asking to compare things that are imbalanced by a factor of 200? Which would you rather have, a Ferrari or a Hot Wheels?

I don’t think you understand the improbability of a manned trip to Mars in the current NASA budget. $10B a year is woefully small compared to what the actual costs will be. Estimates are an actual manned trip to Mars would be about $1T. Also given differences in orbits, a manned mission would be able to stay for about 3 days before needing to depart.

A better comparison would be would you rather have a Ferrari for three days and possibly never get home in it because it crashes on a highway and bursts into flames or a new BMW that works and continues to benefit you as the owner after the year?

Your comparison isn’t accurate between a Ferrari and Hot Wheels.

Hi there,

My name is Olivia, and I am a reporter at the Associated Press seeking to talk to federal employees living in Virginia who are impacted by the shutdown and/or layoffs.

If someone here meets these criteria and would feel comfortable speaking on the record, please get in touch. If not, I completely understand and thank you for reading this note.

My best,
Olivia Diaz

Contact email: odiaz@ap.org

Anonymous wrote:Pre-ACA, my brother-in-law with rheumatoid arthritis had a lapse in heath insurance after the restaurant he worked at suddenly closed. He is disease was never once again covered by insurance even as he worked. Eventually his family went bankrupt from medical debt, and he died in his 50s with painful gnarled hands from substandard care.

This is what you want to go back to?? This man wanted to work and be productive!

The medicine for RA is critical to life, not just for pain but RA causes heart problems. Before the medicine was created, RA caused an early death (usually 10-15 years).