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Anonymous wrote:Chock’s ex-Fiancee was very pretty and natural looking. He can do better and meet someone younger than Joan. Pascal can also get someone much better than Joan. He’s very handsome and in great shape. Assuming they are both financially stable they can both attract someone much younger and prettier than Joan.

You sound like you are discussing a livestock auction.

Please stop reducing women to their appearance and men to their wallets . It really is dehumanizing…and reveals something really ugly about you.

Yes. But it’s true. Most would agree.

Anonymous wrote:Chock’s ex-Fiancee was very pretty and natural looking. He can do better and meet someone younger than Joan. Pascal can also get someone much better than Joan. He’s very handsome and in great shape. Assuming they are both financially stable they can both attract someone much younger and prettier than Joan.

You sound like you are discussing a livestock auction.

Please stop reducing women to their appearance and men to their wallets . It really is dehumanizing…and reveals something really ugly about you.

Anonymous wrote:Also one thing I noticed: Joan is 61, and Trista is 51 but looks like she could be her daughter. It was a bit of a contrast considering how much work Joan has done to her face.

I didn't know Trista was 51, but it makes sense.

When they were talking, I thought Trista looked so much better -- natural is better. And if you are going to do a little nip and tuck, make it a LITTLE nip/tuck.

Also one thing I noticed: Joan is 61, and Trista is 51 but looks like she could be her daughter. It was a bit of a contrast considering how much work Joan has done to her face.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed Joan picked guys without young kids who are white and seem to have money.

She is looking for her next meal ticket and for someone who is fun and ready to travel.

I mean, she is white without young kids herself. It's hardly surprising that she'd want someone she has things in common with. And most people that age want to travel. She obviously wants someone with money, which is why she's carved herself into what she perceives is a rich man's type.

Fair enough, but I do feel bad for the minority men on the show who never really had a chance because that's not who she dates.

Welcome to the Bachelor franchise!

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed Joan picked guys without young kids who are white and seem to have money.

She is looking for her next meal ticket and for someone who is fun and ready to travel.

I mean, she is white without young kids herself. It's hardly surprising that she'd want someone she has things in common with. And most people that age want to travel. She obviously wants someone with money, which is why she's carved herself into what she perceives is a rich man's type.

Fair enough, but I do feel bad for the minority men on the show who never really had a chance because that's not who she dates.

Chock’s ex-Fiancee was very pretty and natural looking. He can do better and meet someone younger than Joan. Pascal can also get someone much better than Joan. He’s very handsome and in great shape. Assuming they are both financially stable they can both attract someone much younger and prettier than Joan.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we're facing another Gerry situation: She's trying to find a man for money. She's more deceptive than Gerry even. So she might pick a guy like Chock who has money but is bad news, Guy who doesn't seem to have that much money due to the divorce and is not great news...It's not going to end in a fairy tale.

He's an ER doctor and an empty nester. "The base salary for Physician - Emergency Room ranges from $317,677 to $419,617 with the average base salary of $374,152." Doubtful he pays alimony or child support at this point. He's wealthy but probably doesn't live in a big house anymore. Why would he? Probably has a significantly higher income than Chock.

I don't know about Joan, but I would pick Guy for the win. I have only seen the most recent episode and based on how the other men were acting, Guy seems to be the most genuine and a gentleman.

Anonymous wrote:Pascal is the kind of man who wants the woman on his arm to look polished and sparkly ALL the time. Like you can't have a "no make up day" if you are dating Pascal -- he would always expect you to look perfect. He would be the kind of guy who has a 35 yr old girlfriend just b/c he can afford to woo her.

There is NO way Pascal likes Joan. He is mean and superficial. Her extensions are very bad and she has had too much work done. I don't like him but he can get a 50yo easily.

I think Joan wants Pascal but he’ll self eliminate so she’ll choose Chock (maaaaaybe Guy). But I don’t see it lasting more than six months.

Pascal is the kind of man who wants the woman on his arm to look polished and sparkly ALL the time. Like you can't have a "no make up day" if you are dating Pascal -- he would always expect you to look perfect. He would be the kind of guy who has a 35 yr old girlfriend just b/c he can afford to woo her.

Anonymous wrote:I predict Chock and Pascal will be her final two and she'll pick Chock. As PP said, it won't last. Agree she is looking for money (i.e., feeling "safe") and Chock will promise her safety to close the deal. He sells insurance and knows how to sell surety. I don't think they'll get along though because he's really from a different world, being from KC.

Somewhere I saw a picture of his ex-wife (the mother of his children), and she looks a lot like Joan! Long blonde hair, thin, pretty. Joan is Chock's type. He was engaged to another woman who died. Chock is ready to close the deal on finding a partner/spouse, so I do think he'll put forth the effort. But, like Gerry and Theresa, the distance is going to be an issue. I assume Chock is still working, and Joan wants to stay near Maryland. So, logistically, it's a problem for the long term. But, who knows! Maybe they'll do a long-distance thing until they are 65-ish. Maybe Chock can work remotely or do some sort of investments planning, and they can be in the same state (i.e. Maryland) in about 4 years?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed Joan picked guys without young kids who are white and seem to have money.

She is looking for her next meal ticket and for someone who is fun and ready to travel.

I mean, she is white without young kids herself. It's hardly surprising that she'd want someone she has things in common with. And most people that age want to travel. She obviously wants someone with money, which is why she's carved herself into what she perceives is a rich man's type.

Umm... she PAID someone to carve her into the shape she's in. And it seems to be working to attract the kind of guys who have $$$. So, maybe it was an investment in her future.

Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize that when we talk about people getting work done we need to specify that they didn’t do the surgery themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed Joan picked guys without young kids who are white and seem to have money.

She is looking for her next meal ticket and for someone who is fun and ready to travel.

I mean, she is white without young kids herself. It's hardly surprising that she'd want someone she has things in common with. And most people that age want to travel. She obviously wants someone with money, which is why she's carved herself into what she perceives is a rich man's type.

Umm... she PAID someone to carve her into the shape she's in. And it seems to be working to attract the kind of guys who have $$$. So, maybe it was an investment in her future.

I predict Chock and Pascal will be her final two and she'll pick Chock. As PP said, it won't last. Agree she is looking for money (i.e., feeling "safe") and Chock will promise her safety to close the deal. He sells insurance and knows how to sell surety. I don't think they'll get along though because he's really from a different world, being from KC.