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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe that sororities have changed so much since I attended. FWIW when I was president almost none of what’s been said on this thread is true. A rush committee who has already decided who is attending? Absolutely not. Yield protection? Not a term I’ve heard before. Top tiers everyone is talking about? Totally different from when I went there, and I wouldn’t have ever referred to them that way. We just tried to find girls we clicked with and would want to hang out with, it was not any deeper than that. And we certainly didn’t care where you were from or what vacations you took! Give me a break.

its pretty not cool, but the "tiers" exist because of the fraternities. I wish they could be required to mix with all of the sororities but of course that would not work so the top mixes with the top, middle mixes with middle and low mixes with low. That's why no girls want to be low, even if they might like those girls and the sisterhood because they perceive that the guys they will be mixing with are "less than". Less good looking, less charming, less eligible, who the heck knows.

Less douchey?

LOL. Yes, this. OML this whole environment is so toxic. Why are parents getting involved, and/or encouraging any of this? Isn't the point of going to college to actually grow up and become your own person? Not compete for bought friendships? This is mind blowing. The whole message being sent to women is that they are not good enough to get to their destination on their own. Instead, the idea is put into their head to buy fake "friendships", for fake "connections". And moms are okay with this?? To what extremes??

if you pay dues to join any club or sport are you "paying for friends"? My kids are both greek because I was and it was the best part of my college experience. They both have held exec positions and have had a great time. They are not in "top houses" so they just have a solid, nice group of friends and neither has experienced any hazing. Neither really drink either. My DD does not drink really at all, and my DS drinks maybe 1 time per week, maybe. The dues they pay allow for their house to gather, fundraising and social events. Those things cost money. I have definitely seen and heard some things that I do not like in these "top houses" for example, the most recent issue. That doesn't mean that kids don't have a perfectly safe, happy experience in other chapters.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe that sororities have changed so much since I attended. FWIW when I was president almost none of what’s been said on this thread is true. A rush committee who has already decided who is attending? Absolutely not. Yield protection? Not a term I’ve heard before. Top tiers everyone is talking about? Totally different from when I went there, and I wouldn’t have ever referred to them that way. We just tried to find girls we clicked with and would want to hang out with, it was not any deeper than that. And we certainly didn’t care where you were from or what vacations you took! Give me a break.

its pretty not cool, but the "tiers" exist because of the fraternities. I wish they could be required to mix with all of the sororities but of course that would not work so the top mixes with the top, middle mixes with middle and low mixes with low. That's why no girls want to be low, even if they might like those girls and the sisterhood because they perceive that the guys they will be mixing with are "less than". Less good looking, less charming, less eligible, who the heck knows.

Less douchey?

LOL. Yes, this. OML this whole environment is so toxic. Why are parents getting involved, and/or encouraging any of this? Isn't the point of going to college to actually grow up and become your own person? Not compete for bought friendships? This is mind blowing. The whole message being sent to women is that they are not good enough to get to their destination on their own. Instead, the idea is put into their head to buy fake "friendships", for fake "connections". And moms are okay with this?? To what extremes??

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Anonymous wrote:All the girls that rush want the top 3 houses (the actual top sororities will vary by school). Yes, they go through the instagrams to figure out if you were popular in high school, which private school you went to, sleepaway camp, etc. Also to see how you dress, your HHI, etc. This 100% happens at every school.

You're wrong, not everyone wants the top 3. My DD went in knowing she wouldn't fit with those girls and knew she'd be dropped, which she of course she was. She did say they were very nice and she was pleasantly surprised by them. But it is absolutely about wealth and connections in those sororities and at UVA those girls come from boarding schools in the Northeast. If you are not already known to them before rush, you're probably not getting in, even if you're a legacy.

UVA is slowly changing. While Greek life will be somewhat important, it won't be as important as it once was. UVA is getting kids from different backgrounds even out of state kids.

LOL. Just because UVA is trying to rewrite its extensive history, doesn't mean it is succeeding at doing so. Greek Life will always be synonymous with UVA.

+1

What are the details?

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Anonymous wrote:Did a pledge hit his head last night and get hurt????

Or alcohol poisoning?

I heard this

Very much hope he is okay.