Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
They equate a CCDC historic district with racial segregation and gaslight those who oppose their development agenda as opposing racial and economic diversity.
Of course. When you are all out of ideas, simply accuse people of racism and then expect them to waste time and energy trying to prove that they aren’t racist. If they don’t take the bait, claim that their silence is proof and declare victory in the imaginary argument.
When you don't want to engage with the data, simply claim that people are wrongly accusing you of racism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
They equate a CCDC historic district with racial segregation and gaslight those who oppose their development agenda as opposing racial and economic diversity.
Of course. When you are all out of ideas, simply accuse people of racism and then expect them to waste time and energy trying to prove that they aren’t racist. If they don’t take the bait, claim that their silence is proof and declare victory in the imaginary argument.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
They equate a CCDC historic district with racial segregation and gaslight those who oppose their development agenda as opposing racial and economic diversity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
They equate a CCDC historic district with racial segregation and gaslight those who oppose their development agenda as opposing racial and economic diversity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
They equate a CCDC historic district with racial segregation and gaslight those who oppose their development agenda as opposing racial and economic diversity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
Why is the historic district lobby fighting the proposed development and trying to impose a historic district…if that doesn’t affect the development at all?
You can keep using the term “lobby” all you want…it’s trite and unimaginative and you can’t understand there are many individuals that are part of no lobby.
Uh, perhaps because Chevy Chase has historic contributing resources that are worth preserving and to ensure that development is subject to design review for compatibilityj.
So, why when I ask someone why they support the historic district is the most common reaponse that they don’t want the housing project to happen?
Nobody has ever said that it is just the design of the 6 story building they care about…they don’t want it to happen at all.
Even after saying what you wrote above they don’t believe it. Clearly, the historic district lobby has no reason to push back and correct them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
Why is the historic district lobby fighting the proposed development and trying to impose a historic district…if that doesn’t affect the development at all?
You can keep using the term “lobby” all you want…it’s trite and unimaginative and you can’t understand there are many individuals that are part of no lobby.
Uh, perhaps because Chevy Chase has historic contributing resources that are worth preserving and to ensure that development is subject to design review for compatibilityj.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
Why is the historic district lobby fighting the proposed development and trying to impose a historic district…if that doesn’t affect the development at all?
You can keep using the term “lobby” all you want…it’s trite and unimaginative and you can’t understand there are many individuals that are part of no lobby.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
It’s like saying I was planning to buy a Mercedes anyway, so what’s the big deal if everyone has to buy a Mercedes…it’s a better car anyway.
I don’t know…maybe because historic district windows (as just one example) can easily run $40,000+ for a whole house window replacement vs $20,000 for top vinyl windows. Oh, and absolutely nobody cares about those vinyl windows. How do I know…because a number of people sending in letters supporting the district have 100% vinyl windows…which look nice…ands again, nobody cares.
So, how to reconcile the hypocrisy of those that have already made all their non-HPO approved modifications as they smugly now try to impose those on the rest of us.
How quaint. A house in Chevy Chase costs no less than a million dollars. The extra 20k for actually good windows is pocket change at those rates.
Tell that to an elderly homeowner that purchased their home for $50k back in 1970.
Also, the historic district windows are no better…because modern vinyl windows are equivalent quality at much less cost.
Hence, why people even that support the historic district, don’t actually spend the “pocket change” to purchase historic district windows for their own homes. Wonder why?
Do you really think that the DC development lobby is pulling out all the stops to defeat a Chevy Chase historic district for the freedom to buy cheaper vinyl windows?![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
It’s like saying I was planning to buy a Mercedes anyway, so what’s the big deal if everyone has to buy a Mercedes…it’s a better car anyway.
I don’t know…maybe because historic district windows (as just one example) can easily run $40,000+ for a whole house window replacement vs $20,000 for top vinyl windows. Oh, and absolutely nobody cares about those vinyl windows. How do I know…because a number of people sending in letters supporting the district have 100% vinyl windows…which look nice…ands again, nobody cares.
So, how to reconcile the hypocrisy of those that have already made all their non-HPO approved modifications as they smugly now try to impose those on the rest of us.
How quaint. A house in Chevy Chase costs no less than a million dollars. The extra 20k for actually good windows is pocket change at those rates.
Tell that to an elderly homeowner that purchased their home for $50k back in 1970.
Also, the historic district windows are no better…because modern vinyl windows are equivalent quality at much less cost.
Hence, why people even that support the historic district, don’t actually spend the “pocket change” to purchase historic district windows for their own homes. Wonder why?
Do you really think that the DC development lobby is pulling out all the stops to defeat a Chevy Chase historic district for the freedom to buy cheaper vinyl windows?![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.
Why is the development lobby, GGW, “Cleveland Park Smart Growth” (2+ miles from CCDC!), etc. fighting so hard to stop a relatively small Chevy Chase historic district?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
It’s like saying I was planning to buy a Mercedes anyway, so what’s the big deal if everyone has to buy a Mercedes…it’s a better car anyway.
I don’t know…maybe because historic district windows (as just one example) can easily run $40,000+ for a whole house window replacement vs $20,000 for top vinyl windows. Oh, and absolutely nobody cares about those vinyl windows. How do I know…because a number of people sending in letters supporting the district have 100% vinyl windows…which look nice…ands again, nobody cares.
So, how to reconcile the hypocrisy of those that have already made all their non-HPO approved modifications as they smugly now try to impose those on the rest of us.
How quaint. A house in Chevy Chase costs no less than a million dollars. The extra 20k for actually good windows is pocket change at those rates.
Tell that to an elderly homeowner that purchased their home for $50k back in 1970.
Also, the historic district windows are no better…because modern vinyl windows are equivalent quality at much less cost.
Hence, why people even that support the historic district, don’t actually spend the “pocket change” to purchase historic district windows for their own homes. Wonder why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
It’s like saying I was planning to buy a Mercedes anyway, so what’s the big deal if everyone has to buy a Mercedes…it’s a better car anyway.
I don’t know…maybe because historic district windows (as just one example) can easily run $40,000+ for a whole house window replacement vs $20,000 for top vinyl windows. Oh, and absolutely nobody cares about those vinyl windows. How do I know…because a number of people sending in letters supporting the district have 100% vinyl windows…which look nice…ands again, nobody cares.
So, how to reconcile the hypocrisy of those that have already made all their non-HPO approved modifications as they smugly now try to impose those on the rest of us.
How quaint. A house in Chevy Chase costs no less than a million dollars. The extra 20k for actually good windows is pocket change at those rates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My family made the opposite choice -- to live in a historic district. I agree that the city is big enough to have both to give people choices.
The same. We value having a historic district in the neighborhood. And when we renovated and enlarged our house the process was not burdensome at all.
+1
The hysteria from the people opposed to historic designation is rather astounding. It really isn't that big of a deal, and frankly, it generally improves the overall quality of home renovations.
So why do it?
Why not? There are a lot of unique neighborhoods in DC, Chevy Chase is one of them. Why not celebrate a streetcar suburb of DC? It won't impact the proposals for the community center, but it will "stabilize" the 100+ year old homes on either side of CT Ave.
That’s a load of BS. There is nothing that needs “stabilizing”…and it absolutely is being promoted as a tool to block/impede the community center development.
Just be honest about it.
Have you seen the development in the Shaw Historic District? Or the 14th Street Historic District? Or the Anacostia Historic District? Being in a historic District does not block or impede development. If that is the reason the proponents have filed their application, they will be in for a surprise.