Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 22:47     Subject: Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Solo water activity when sober isn’t the safest thing, combine that with drugs and you’re done for. He fell into a K hole and drowned.


Is that true though? Wouldn’t they have said that the ultimate cause was drowning if so?


Not that they wouldn’t mention the drugs in that case, just that drowning wasn’t mentioned. I assumed he was dead before he went under water.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 22:46     Subject: Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:Solo water activity when sober isn’t the safest thing, combine that with drugs and you’re done for. He fell into a K hole and drowned.


Is that true though? Wouldn’t they have said that the ultimate cause was drowning if so?
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 11:20     Subject: Re:Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
we are spending way too much time thinking of Matthew Perry, a deeply mentally unwell person. Where is Sandra Day O' Connor page?


Do you have any idea how many Americans live with mental health issues themselves or in their families? How many live with substance use disorder themselves or in their families?

Most Americans have much more in common with Matthew Perry’s life experience than with Sandra Day O’Connor’s life experience - except perhaps the Alzheimer’s struggle at the end for her husband and for her. It’s apples to oranges, anyway, and each has been recognized.



Point is his contribution is tiny compared to Sandra Day O' Connor. We are mourning a fictional character, Chandler, not Matthew Perry! I read his book and I think he had a lot of more problems than just alcohol and drug use. Big time narcissist
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2023 11:10     Subject: Matthew perry died

Addicts often have distorted thinking and since he was on ketamine for depression and used to take it daily he may have convinced himself that taking extra ketamine wasn’t ‘using’ and that he was augmenting treatment. He may have rationalized the use in some way or he may have just relapsed. Sounds like at least he died peacefully and painlessly and probably never even knew he was dying. He just went unconscious and slipped under water.

It is very hard to treat depression in someone who has used and abused many different drugs. The dopamine pathways and other neuronal networks are damaged by the illicit drug use and meds just don’t work the same.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 22:42     Subject: Re:Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:
we are spending way too much time thinking of Matthew Perry, a deeply mentally unwell person. Where is Sandra Day O' Connor page?


Do you have any idea how many Americans live with mental health issues themselves or in their families? How many live with substance use disorder themselves or in their families?

Most Americans have much more in common with Matthew Perry’s life experience than with Sandra Day O’Connor’s life experience - except perhaps the Alzheimer’s struggle at the end for her husband and for her. It’s apples to oranges, anyway, and each has been recognized.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 22:26     Subject: Re:Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:
we are spending way too much time thinking of Matthew Perry, a deeply mentally unwell person. Where is Sandra Day O' Connor page?


It's here. Under Politics. Not Entertainment.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1170999.page
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 19:25     Subject: Re:Matthew perry died


we are spending way too much time thinking of Matthew Perry, a deeply mentally unwell person. Where is Sandra Day O' Connor page?
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 19:23     Subject: Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Ketamine is also used to treat depression. I have a friend who has undergone ketamine treatment for depression. Not sure if that is what he was doing, but I wouldn't be surprised since he openly spoke of combatting depression.


This was my first thought, he had been using it to treat depression. Many of his friends and family had said he seemed happier than ever because he had gotten his other addictions under control. Maybe he finally had tackled his depression. I’ve heard of many people micro dosing ketamine as a last resort for severe depression. Sadly his body had been put through so much prior to this so it could have been too much. So sad.


He was using it outside of his scheduled treatments. It’s considered a party drug when abused.


+1 everyone who said he died of drugs was correct then.


Makes you wonder if it was actually suicide. He wasn’t stupid. He had to know the risk involved with taking ketamine and getting in a hot tub. He knew how Whitney Houston died.


Most drug addicts don’t OD on purpose. So I doubt it was suicide.


From descriptions in the report, his quality of life may have been low, e.g., pancreatic fibrosis.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 19:15     Subject: Matthew perry died

Should it have been ruled OD rather than accidental?
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 18:57     Subject: Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:Why on earth would a mental health practitioner introduce ketamine to Someone so clearly dependent on drugs? There are other therapeutic treatments for depression. That seems so profoundly irresponsible


The infusion was probably administer by a professional. What he had in his system he probably got from the black market.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 17:06     Subject: Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:Ketamine in very low doses is used as a treatment for depreasion.


That is true, but a low dose is not what was found in his system unfortunately.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 15:45     Subject: Matthew perry died

Ketamine in very low doses is used as a treatment for depreasion.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 15:23     Subject: Matthew perry died

Solo water activity when sober isn’t the safest thing, combine that with drugs and you’re done for. He fell into a K hole and drowned.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2023 09:09     Subject: Matthew perry died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ketamine is also used to treat depression. I have a friend who has undergone ketamine treatment for depression. Not sure if that is what he was doing, but I wouldn't be surprised since he openly spoke of combatting depression.


This was my first thought, he had been using it to treat depression. Many of his friends and family had said he seemed happier than ever because he had gotten his other addictions under control. Maybe he finally had tackled his depression. I’ve heard of many people micro dosing ketamine as a last resort for severe depression. Sadly his body had been put through so much prior to this so it could have been too much. So sad.


He was using it outside of his scheduled treatments. It’s considered a party drug when abused.


+1 everyone who said he died of drugs was correct then.


Makes you wonder if it was actually suicide. He wasn’t stupid. He had to know the risk involved with taking ketamine and getting in a hot tub. He knew how Whitney Houston died.


Most drug addicts don’t OD on purpose. So I doubt it was suicide.