Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:20     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:I don't know how this works, but if Jeffries has more votes than McCarthy, why isn't he the new Speaker? Why is the GOP able to keep taking vote after vote? Nothing is changing. Clearly I'm missing something here.


The Speaker needs 50%+1 of all votes cast (excluding those voting present), not a plurality.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:19     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Sorry for that comment earlier, Jeff. I dislike ableis so much
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:18     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why does the Freedom Caucus hate this guy so much? He has made all the right noises for years, embraced MAGA and Trump, etc. Of course he is a phony and a fraud, but so are they. I don't really get it.


There is no way they are letting the guy promise all this stuff and then say “but you can’t fire me if I don’t do any of that”.


DP. I mean, I get that. That almost sounds rational. But there's no alternative. It's him or Jeffries, who isn't going to do any of that at all, while McCarthy may do some of the things he's promised.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:18     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Dem's are holding strong as a united front. The Republicans are just a disaster, specifically the "Freedom Caucus".


You don’t want the Dems to hold strong. That’s what happens in communist countries. Individualists act like it.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:18     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is all good theater for the DC crowd, but I really don’t think the rest of America cares. If it takes a few days to pick a speaker the practical impact is negligible.


I think you're wrong. My relatives, who are all moderate/independent sometimes-voters in NC, have been texting me asking wtf is going on. The last time that happened was Jan 6th.


What is your position/occupation in DC?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:18     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know how this works, but if Jeffries has more votes than McCarthy, why isn't he the new Speaker? Why is the GOP able to keep taking vote after vote? Nothing is changing. Clearly I'm missing something here.

Magic number is 218.


Ah, got it. Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:16     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Why does the Freedom Caucus hate this guy so much? He has made all the right noises for years, embraced MAGA and Trump, etc. Of course he is a phony and a fraud, but so are they. I don't really get it.


There is no way they are letting the guy promise all this stuff and then say “but you can’t fire me if I don’t do any of that”.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:15     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or have there been members on the Republican side who did not show up to vote?
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OMG, does that mean Jeffries has it??
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:14     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:This is all good theater for the DC crowd, but I really don’t think the rest of America cares. If it takes a few days to pick a speaker the practical impact is negligible.


I think you're wrong. My relatives, who are all moderate/independent sometimes-voters in NC, have been texting me asking wtf is going on. The last time that happened was Jan 6th.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:13     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Good idea but who would nominate him? The MAGAs won’t and the other Rs are sticking with Kevin. Maybe a moderate Democrat would once Kevin stands down?


I don't see that happening.

I said something similar yesterday, but this is a Washington parlor game. If 60% of Americans 17 and over could name the most recent Speaker of the House I would be shocked. This matters to people who follow politics/the base of both parties. Dem voters don't want to see Hakeem Jeffries' name withdrawn or someone challenging him. What do Democrats gain by doing anything but remaining unified?
You don’t think people would know Pelosi was the most recent speaker?


If you asked the question, "Who is the most recent Speaker of the House of Representatives?," no other context, I stand by my 60% number.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:10     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dem's are holding strong as a united front. The Republicans are just a disaster, specifically the "Freedom Caucus".

The R party let the [crazy] dogs out. Now, they can't control them. They unleashed their crazies onto this entire country.

So many of these clowns should not be in Congress — they should be in jail or home, after losing their elections or forced to resign or forbidden to hold office as insurrectionists etc etc. Therefore, here we are.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:08     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is all good theater for the DC crowd, but I really don’t think the rest of America cares. If it takes a few days to pick a speaker the practical impact is negligible.


Sure. no one cares about anything, politics is all just a game. Failing to raise the debt ceiling limit was just a game, shutting the federal government for over a month was just a game, it's all just a game.


The most fury I ever saw about a government shutdown was during the Obama years when the American cemeteries in Normandy were closed and elderly veterans couldn't visit the cemetery. shutdowns are barely a shutdown anymore. Joe Blow in Dallas doesn't even notice.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:07     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:I don't know how this works, but if Jeffries has more votes than McCarthy, why isn't he the new Speaker? Why is the GOP able to keep taking vote after vote? Nothing is changing. Clearly I'm missing something here.

Magic number is 218.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:07     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Good idea but who would nominate him? The MAGAs won’t and the other Rs are sticking with Kevin. Maybe a moderate Democrat would once Kevin stands down?


I don't see that happening.

I said something similar yesterday, but this is a Washington parlor game. If 60% of Americans 17 and over could name the most recent Speaker of the House I would be shocked. This matters to people who follow politics/the base of both parties. Dem voters don't want to see Hakeem Jeffries' name withdrawn or someone challenging him. What do Democrats gain by doing anything but remaining unified?
You don’t think people would know Pelosi was the most recent speaker?


Not 60%.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 15:06     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Are there any Independents in the House? I don't think so.