Anonymous
11/22/2023 13:30
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It wasn't you that pointed out that we are under "invasion" from immigrants and we can protect ourselves by shooting them?
Different poster and that was a nonsensical twist to a stupid thread. There are lots of reasons to have a well administered immigration system but there’s little connection to the gun debate, except perhaps that crime goes up when we don’t carefully vet who enters the country.
I just wanted to post the blog from BJ Campbell because I find his writing and analysis thought-provoking even when I don’t agree with him. But he’s right when he says that the gun buying frenzy of this current decade has been spearheaded by the blue tribe. Both “left” and “right” are now (mildly) concerned of the risk of totalitarianism and to be honest I think that’s a healthy concern for a republic.
We are well aware that is your take. We go to the polls and vote about our different views and we see what happens. The idea that if one side does not like the outcome of that vote and decides to try to settle it with violence is unfortunate and it will not go well for them.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 12:12
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:
It wasn't you that pointed out that we are under "invasion" from immigrants and we can protect ourselves by shooting them?
Different poster and that was a nonsensical twist to a stupid thread. There are lots of reasons to have a well administered immigration system but there’s little connection to the gun debate, except perhaps that crime goes up when we don’t carefully vet who enters the country.
I just wanted to post the blog from BJ Campbell because I find his writing and analysis thought-provoking even when I don’t agree with him. But he’s right when he says that the gun buying frenzy of this current decade has been spearheaded by the blue tribe. Both “left” and “right” are now (mildly) concerned of the risk of totalitarianism and to be honest I think that’s a healthy concern for a republic.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 11:14
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:You are replying to me from a tribal perspective. I have no horse in that race and just jumped in to remind you all that the race is over and the horses are back in their stables. Yes the laws can change and they have changed - rapidly, in the direction of fewer and fewer restrictions, and it was the red-tribe that fueled the expansion of the demand curve in the last few years. So I’m not sure who is even still having this conversation other than the smallest of sects within the tribes.
It wasn't you that pointed out that we are under "invasion" from immigrants and we can protect ourselves by shooting them?
Anonymous
11/22/2023 10:26
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Correction,, I meant to say it was blue tribe fueled. (Stupid color system.) It was the new owners from the middle-left who bought every gram of lead in the United States in 2020.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 10:24
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
You are replying to me from a tribal perspective. I have no horse in that race and just jumped in to remind you all that the race is over and the horses are back in their stables. Yes the laws can change and they have changed - rapidly, in the direction of fewer and fewer restrictions, and it was the red-tribe that fueled the expansion of the demand curve in the last few years. So I’m not sure who is even still having this conversation other than the smallest of sects within the tribes.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:47
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:You red-tribe / blue-tribe people are all crazy if you think you’re changing each other’s minds. This is a stupid thread.
Like this guy says, this is a done deal. The pandemic years were the biggest gun buying spree in history and it was fueled by new buyers from across the political spectrum.
https://hwfo.substack.com/p/the-war-on-guns-is-lost
If stupid thread is changing anyone's mind than they are all stupid threads.
The gun laws can certainly change because they have changed over the years like many other laws. If this poster thinks that people with weapons are going to get to decide which laws they do and do not follow because they are so tough and violent and armed that they get a pass from the law, I think those folks are going to disappointed.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:41
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
You red-tribe / blue-tribe people are all crazy if you think you’re changing each other’s minds. This is a stupid thread.
Like this guy says, this is a done deal. The pandemic years were the biggest gun buying spree in history and it was fueled by new buyers from across the political spectrum.
https://hwfo.substack.com/p/the-war-on-guns-is-lost
Like this guy says, this is a done deal. The pandemic years were the biggest gun buying spree in history and it was fueled by new buyers from across the political spectrum.
https://hwfo.substack.com/p/the-war-on-guns-is-lost
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:40
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:Hmm. I’ve read enough of the Founders’ writings over the decades to have gotten to know them pretty well. I’m confident they would not have responded kindly if you showed up at their door suggesting that they should give up their rifles.
I agree that anyone who thinks American police or national guard would get involved in confiscation is living in fantasy land, and has no idea of the personality type that goes into a career of policing or soldiering. There’s no love of collectivism there. Especially after how they were treated in 2020.
Interesting that you focus on 2020...you don't think anything happened that might have changed their opinion six days after 2020 ended?
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:37
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:Hmm. I’ve read enough of the Founders’ writings over the decades to have gotten to know them pretty well. I’m confident they would not have responded kindly if you showed up at their door suggesting that they should give up their rifles.
I agree that anyone who thinks American police or national guard would get involved in confiscation is living in fantasy land, and has no idea of the personality type that goes into a career of policing or soldiering. There’s no love of collectivism there. Especially after how they were treated in 2020.
If they take the money they should do the job or find another job and be replaced with someone that will do the job. I don't want anything to do with living in a place where the cops get to decide what is the law and neither does anyone else.
We buy the guns back. We don't just go confiscate property without compensation. That is ridiculous and not how it was accomplished in other places.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:31
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Hmm. I’ve read enough of the Founders’ writings over the decades to have gotten to know them pretty well. I’m confident they would not have responded kindly if you showed up at their door suggesting that they should give up their rifles.
I agree that anyone who thinks American police or national guard would get involved in confiscation is living in fantasy land, and has no idea of the personality type that goes into a career of policing or soldiering. There’s no love of collectivism there. Especially after how they were treated in 2020.
I agree that anyone who thinks American police or national guard would get involved in confiscation is living in fantasy land, and has no idea of the personality type that goes into a career of policing or soldiering. There’s no love of collectivism there. Especially after how they were treated in 2020.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:13
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
And blah blah blah Federal Papers yadda yadda. The Federal Papers are a collection of opinions with no weight of law.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:12
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We can just as easily use a non shithole country as a model to influence our choices. There are countries where people live prosperous, productive lives without fear of gun violence and without fear of being hauled away in the middle of the night. Let's have that.
I’m just telling you how I came to my decision. I worked in Europe and Canada too, and I’m not impressed with how they’re going either, in terms of compelled speech. Actually arresting people for stating political opinions.
All this talk of shooting ducks and targets and foreign invaders is not relevant. To me, it’s critical to keep the ability to shoot anyone who would want to use the power of the state to remove the liberties of the individual. The cops I know say they’d never be involved with mass collection of guns and magazines, because they know how it would end for them, and also they don’t personally believe it’s the proper thing. To me, that’s the system working as designed. The state must never have a monopoly on violence.
We don’t have to live in fear. I used my home leave periods to road trip through every lower-48 state in the US. Most places are still idyllic, where people could probably leave their doors unlocked 24/7. The violence is in a few pinpoints on the map, and a small fraction of criminals. Crack down on those.
The cops should find another job if they don't intend to enforce the laws. We don't all work hard and pay through the nose to fund the police to have them get to pick and choose what laws they will enforce each day. It is no an easy job to do well and is not for everyone.
If the voters of this country want to change some laws they are entitled to do it. I guess all the e women that just had their reproductive rights destroyed should just do what they want regardless of any law and shoot anyone that tries to interfere.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:11
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
The point of the 2A was never, and never has been, for the purpose of overthrowing the government. In fact, armed insurrection against the government is a felony, punishable by death (see: Whiskey Rebellion). The sole purpose of the 2A was to provide a militia at a time when the federal government didn't have two nickels to rub together and so put the expense back on the states and individuals. It became moot the instant we had a standing Army.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 09:02
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
So the point of the second amendment is to deal with the sort of people who don’t think there should be a second amendment? Well I guess looking back at events like the gunpowder incident in colonial Virginia I suppose that is accurate.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Anonymous
11/22/2023 08:51
Subject: Common Sense Gun Laws
Anonymous wrote:
We can just as easily use a non shithole country as a model to influence our choices. There are countries where people live prosperous, productive lives without fear of gun violence and without fear of being hauled away in the middle of the night. Let's have that.
I’m just telling you how I came to my decision. I worked in Europe and Canada too, and I’m not impressed with how they’re going either, in terms of compelled speech. Actually arresting people for stating political opinions.
All this talk of shooting ducks and targets and foreign invaders is not relevant. To me, it’s critical to keep the ability to shoot anyone who would want to use the power of the state to remove the liberties of the individual. The cops I know say they’d never be involved with mass collection of guns and magazines, because they know how it would end for them, and also they don’t personally believe it’s the proper thing. To me, that’s the system working as designed. The state must never have a monopoly on violence.
We don’t have to live in fear. I used my home leave periods to road trip through every lower-48 state in the US. Most places are still idyllic, where people could probably leave their doors unlocked 24/7. The violence is in a few pinpoints on the map, and a small fraction of criminals. Crack down on those.