Anonymous wrote:Who in here in law enforcement can explain this video please? Why are theses heavily armed professionals waiting around outside an active school shooting at an elementary school?

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

EXACTLY! Do you not see the problem with expunging records of ALL people when they turn 18? Do you really want those 13/14/15 year olds who kill others in carjackings back on the street with clear records in 3-5 years?

This 18 year old had a background check. Sadly, he passed.

Why wouldn't he have passed? 18-year-olds have clear records that are sealed from juvenile offenses which starts the day they turn 18. He waited and he pounced. Stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

This 18 year old had a background check. Sadly, he passed.

What does the background check entail?

NP here. I want a background check like the kind conducted for high security clearances in the government, not just “are they a felon”. I’m not a fed so not super familiar with them but I know they’re involved. Mandatory reference checks. It should take a few weeks.

So let's say a woman decides to leave her abusive husband and wants a firearm in her home. Because of his abuse, she has been kept away from others. Where does she get her reference checks? His friends and family? A few weeks can get an abused woman killed - the most dangerous time for abused women is just after they leave.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

This 18 year old had a background check. Sadly, he passed.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

This 18 year old had a background check. Sadly, he passed.

What does the background check entail?

NP here. I want a background check like the kind conducted for high security clearances in the government, not just “are they a felon”. I’m not a fed so not super familiar with them but I know they’re involved. Mandatory reference checks. It should take a few weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

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Anonymous wrote:All of these fences all of these secure buildings do nothing when hundreds of children leave that building every day and stand in lines waiting to get on buses or be picked up by their parents. Everyone is a sitting duck at that point We need to get rid of guns and have meaningful gun reform.

Bomb can be used. Evil is just that - it finds a way.

We can imagine scenarios forever though. Better to start by securing things right away and simultaneously work on meaningful reform.

Evil manages to not find a way in countries that have meaningfully banned guns. Get your head out of the sand.

There are no more killings at all?

No genius, but like, many magnitudes fewer.

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But like?

Yes. I’m dumbing the discourse down for you since you don’t seem to grasp fairly obvious points.

Its how you speak. Admit it...genius.

You use that word a lot, making you easy to identify.

And I’m supposed to care why? I see you don’t want to acknowledge basic facts, but would rather be oddly menacing. Not surprising for a gun nut.

I don't own one gun. My husband brought them in without asking. He voted for Obama and Biden. I don't feel we have a need for them where we live. We have dogs and have an alarm system.

Good for you? I’m not sure what is on your mind but I’m sure it’s very profound. To sum it up: countries with tighter gun controls have fewer guns. Thus fewer gun deaths. It’s a tough logical leap to make but if you think on it a little I am sure it will start to make sense, even to you.

What's on my mind is that I was mischaracterized. The PP was wrong about me. It's easy to control guns on islands. Remember, though, the attack of the youth camp in Norway. 85 killed. Norway had some of the toughest gun laws around: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/24/norway-strict-gun-laws-circumvented

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

This 18 year old had a background check. Sadly, he passed.

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Anonymous wrote:All of these fences all of these secure buildings do nothing when hundreds of children leave that building every day and stand in lines waiting to get on buses or be picked up by their parents. Everyone is a sitting duck at that point We need to get rid of guns and have meaningful gun reform.

Bomb can be used. Evil is just that - it finds a way.

We can imagine scenarios forever though. Better to start by securing things right away and simultaneously work on meaningful reform.

Evil manages to not find a way in countries that have meaningfully banned guns. Get your head out of the sand.

There are no more killings at all?

No genius, but like, many magnitudes fewer.

DP

But like?

Yes. I’m dumbing the discourse down for you since you don’t seem to grasp fairly obvious points.

Its how you speak. Admit it...genius.

You use that word a lot, making you easy to identify.

And I’m supposed to care why? I see you don’t want to acknowledge basic facts, but would rather be oddly menacing. Not surprising for a gun nut.

I don't own one gun. My husband brought them in without asking. He voted for Obama and Biden. I don't feel we have a need for them where we live. We have dogs and have an alarm system.

Good for you? I’m not sure what is on your mind but I’m sure it’s very profound. To sum it up: countries with tighter gun controls have fewer guns. Thus fewer gun deaths. It’s a tough logical leap to make but if you think on it a little I am sure it will start to make sense, even to you.

What's on my mind is that I was mischaracterized. The PP was wrong about me. It's easy to control guns on islands. Remember, though, the attack of the youth camp in Norway. 85 killed. Norway had some of the toughest gun laws around: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/24/norway-strict-gun-laws-circumvented

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Anonymous wrote:All of these fences all of these secure buildings do nothing when hundreds of children leave that building every day and stand in lines waiting to get on buses or be picked up by their parents. Everyone is a sitting duck at that point We need to get rid of guns and have meaningful gun reform.

Bomb can be used. Evil is just that - it finds a way.

We can imagine scenarios forever though. Better to start by securing things right away and simultaneously work on meaningful reform.

Evil manages to not find a way in countries that have meaningfully banned guns. Get your head out of the sand.

There are no more killings at all?

No genius, but like, many magnitudes fewer.

DP

But like?

Yes. I’m dumbing the discourse down for you since you don’t seem to grasp fairly obvious points.

Its how you speak. Admit it...genius.

You use that word a lot, making you easy to identify.

And I’m supposed to care why? I see you don’t want to acknowledge basic facts, but would rather be oddly menacing. Not surprising for a gun nut.

I don't own one gun. My husband brought them in without asking. He voted for Obama and Biden. I don't feel we have a need for them where we live. We have dogs and have an alarm system.

Good for you? I’m not sure what is on your mind but I’m sure it’s very profound. To sum it up: countries with tighter gun controls have fewer guns. Thus fewer gun deaths. It’s a tough logical leap to make but if you think on it a little I am sure it will start to make sense, even to you.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

This 18 year old had a background check. Sadly, he passed.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

And?? Those are examples of highly regulated access to guns.

It’s not the same as allowing any 18 year old with a grudge to arm himself.

What is a woman who left an abusive relationship to do? What about a woman being stalked? Do they have a right to self defense? Do you want a woman to go hand-to-hand with a dangerous man?

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first

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Anonymous wrote:You know what would have made this less likely to happen? Age limits on guns. This is out of control. Teenagers should not be allowed to buy these weapons.

18 year olds who serve this country have guns placed in their hands. Minimum age to be a police officer is 18-21, depending on the state.

Those 18 year olds have extensive training drilled into them.

If you don't agree with age limits, do you think we should require 6 months of training before purchasing a gun? For everyone?

Not only that! They have to undergo background checks to get into service in e first place. I’m fine using that standard! If an 18 year old wants a gun he should be able to get security clearance first