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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone going to validate me and what I said twice about Chantilly high school.

I hate to be dismissed.

You people are unkind, evil, and self-centered, especially all of you rich Langley Parents who carry privilege and elitism around with you, flaunting your wealth and racism at every turn, and for that, I am disgusted.

There there kiddo. Could you “borrow” your older sibling’s ID and get a marg at Uncle Julio’s or something to take the edge off?

Im an only child thank you very much, and if I knew who you were I’d throw the margarita and glass in your face.

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Anonymous wrote:They really nailed it with the increase in Chantilly to 127% without modulars! It takes a certain skill to undertake a multi year boundary study to reduce over-crowding and increase the enrollment at the MOST overcrowded school. Crowning achievement!

Chill out. We all know or should know that Chantilly will shed a lot of kids with the Western boundary adjustments.

Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make any hard decision.

Most changes involve moving kids from less popular schools to more popular schools.

I don’t really care about equity but you can argue that this boundary change would result in even more inequity.

Anonymous wrote:To the poster on validating experiences at Chantilly...my kids did not have that experience but were boys. I think the strong love/hate emotions tends to come from the girls and I know plenty of girls in FCPS who couldn't wait to get away from NOVA regardless of what HS they went to - there is something timeless about teenage angst especially how mean girls can be to one another. But I have friends with girls who loved Chantilly so it depends on the kid.

I personally like the CHS administration (formerly Rocky Run admin). For my view, Chantilly was a very easy HS for my kids to attend, they had no issues, found their people, learned a lot, got into good schools. Girls have a much harder road anywhere it seems.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is politically connected and lives in the tiny area moved from FHS to overcrowd CHS even more? How bizarre.

+1,000 adding more kids to Chantilly?? Totally ridiculous.

I went to chantilly and regretted it.

That's why I'm fighting the Western High School fight with parents who want to move.

Chantilly was awful, and despite being a community, the staff have loose lips and are not afraid to throw other staff under the bus; students were constantly involved in drama, with some dramas being so severe they required administrative intervention; organizational challenges at the school level were prevalent, and abusive staff are extant at the school even with staffing changes in occurrence.

I had some of the laziest staff I could possibly have, where community is just a front.

Chantilly is a sinking ship much like the Titanic, with an obvious distinction between Franklin and Rocky Run kids.

I have dealt with split feeders from K-8, having attended Oak Hill, and I found that they really do come at a detriment to a student's social-emotional development.

Hear it from someone who has lived overcrowding and split feeders first hand, it was not fun.

In regards to the overcrowding:

It was not fun having to zigzag around other kids to avoid injury.

It was not fun having to face delays in the halls from severe backups.

It was not fun having to wait in the bathroom for a toilet or sink to open up, when everyone went in there at once.

It was not fun being crammed into a class of 30 people, and not receiving the specialized attention from the teacher students deserve.

It was not fun being crammed into spaces that were not built to accommodate the amount of people it had to hold from enrollment pressures.

In regards to the split feeder situation:

It was not fun making friends with people you knew would be heading in a different direction as you.

It was not fun having to say goodbye to those you grew to love, appreciate, and cherish.

It was not fun knowing that students were going to a better or worse school than you, with a pervasive feeling of angst and envy knowing that our overall experience at the next level would not be the same.

It was not fun attending schools with people so vastly dissimilar from you that you felt like you couldn't maintain a proper social standing, and stuck with who was familiar.

It was not fun leaving people I had known for the past seven years, and then having to do the same with people you knew for the past two years.

It was certainly not fun knowing that cross-school parties exist, where artificial ethnocentrism at the high school level created social rifts, with students from one school being uninvited in order to maintain a feeling of community with people you may never see again in life, not to mention fights that would occur if students from other schools showed their face.

And most importantly, it was not fun having relationships be strained from defective and awfully drawn school boundary lines.

Chantilly was overcrowded, socially difficult to navigate, a safety hazard (there was one time I was stuck in the building during a fire drill), and a discombobulated mess that faced neglect over many years, where now the county comes up with a solution, that then they try to make problems with by considering turning it into an aerospace academy.

That's the truth behind what was felt as someone who has lived through FCPS' concocted BS that they have to clean up when they shot themselves in the foot and walked into this mess through chronic incompetence, gerrymandering, and misappropriation of taxpayer funds, if not straight up embezzlement and fraud.

Parent here of one introvert and one extrovert. One excellent student and one who could have been, but did not want to be bothered. Both thrived at Chantilly.

I'm sorry PP did not have a decent experience.

One thing, I don't understand was the leaving friends of 7 years, and then 2 years.
Also, FWIW, the number of kids in the classroom has very little to do with the number in the school. 30 is pretty normal.

See you just selfishly jump to share your experience without asking what I was alluding to, but I will share anyway.

The Special Education Department Chair let it slip that Academy Resource Teachers are paid to support academy students with IEPs and 504s, but often construct accommodations to add hours so that they are able to keep their jobs.

There was poor sportsmanship with members of sports teams thinking that were better than other members.

There was domestic violence amongst students, and I was there when one student badly beat another student up when his child was brought up (that fight was filmed by the way).

Fights in the parking lots would occur as students had to fight their way out.

The “barstool” account published defamatory videos and memes of me and other students, one so bad the girl wanted it taken down but it was left up anyway.

I hate the concept of Barstool accounts anyway as they are mass grounds for lawsuits because of their nature of harming, embarrassing and defaming people in vulnerable or vulgar moments they would rather keep private, but are exploited for views.

The staff at Chantilly did nothing for the SA claims a girl expressed to both her counselor and the school psychologist, with it being disproven and written off.

There was a pervasive environment of abuse, bullying, and harassment amongst students.

Vandalism (while to a lesser degree than at other schools) was significant enough that bathrooms were closed.

So yeah, while your experience is great with your kids (who most likely are lying to your gullible and umempathetic face), mine was shrouded in legal grey areas.

Is nobody going to acknowledge what I am saying here?

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Anonymous wrote:They really nailed it with the increase in Chantilly to 127% without modulars! It takes a certain skill to undertake a multi year boundary study to reduce overcrowding and increase enrollment at the MOST overcrowded school. Crowning achievement!

Chill out. We all know or should know that Chantilly will shed a lot of kids with the Western boundary adjustments.

Anonymous wrote:They really nailed it with the increase in Chantilly to 127% without modulars! It takes a certain skill to undertake a multi year boundary study to reduce over-crowding and increase the enrollment at the MOST overcrowded school. Crowning achievement!

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone going to validate me and what I said twice about Chantilly high school.

I hate to be dismissed.

You people are unkind, evil, and self-centered, especially all of you rich Langley Parents who carry privilege and elitism around with you, flaunting your wealth and racism at every turn, and for that, I am disgusted.

There there kiddo. Could you “borrow” your older sibling’s ID and get a marg at Uncle Julio’s or something to take the edge off?

Im an only child thank you very much, and if I knew who you were I’d throw the margarita and glass in your face.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone going to validate me and what I said twice about Chantilly high school.

I hate to be dismissed.

You people are unkind, evil, and self-centered, especially all of you rich Langley Parents who carry privilege and elitism around with you, flaunting your wealth and racism at every turn, and for that, I am disgusted.

There there kiddo. Could you “borrow” your older sibling’s ID and get a marg at Uncle Julio’s or something to take the edge off?

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone going to validate me and what I said twice about Chantilly high school.

I hate to be dismissed.

You people are unkind, evil, and self-centered, especially all of you rich Langley Parents who carry privilege and elitism around with you, flaunting your wealth and racism at every turn, and for that, I am disgusted.