Anonymous wrote:So this parent coachesboth the first and second teams in the same age group, and his daughter plays on the second team? If the daughter gets pulled up to the first team, even just to guest play, that’s going to raise some eyebrows among the second team parents. Even if it’s warranted based on performance, it may be hard for parents to feel like those decisions are being made objectively. Why wouldn’t Valor put the coach at an age group where his daughter doesn’t play? There are plenty of coaches who are parents of players at the club. It’s a pretty simple solution to just put the coach at an age group above or below the one their kid plays in.

He's been the first team coach all season, I don't think his daughter has ever been called up to guest, others have. The 2nd team assistant coach has a daughter on the team. This also hasn't been an issue because the head coach is there to make decisions and having another coach around is more positive than only having one coach. The experience this year has not indicated much bias. While yes the possibility exists these two coaches have been able to navigate this while also being able to be around to see their own kids play. And no I'm not a rah rah yay Valor parent i have other concerns with how things played out this year and this was not one of them. I'm just trying to provide what our experience has been.

So this parent coachesboth the first and second teams in the same age group, and his daughter plays on the second team? If the daughter gets pulled up to the first team, even just to guest play, that’s going to raise some eyebrows among the second team parents. Even if it’s warranted based on performance, it may be hard for parents to feel like those decisions are being made objectively. Why wouldn’t Valor put the coach at an age group where his daughter doesn’t play? There are plenty of coaches who are parents of players at the club. It’s a pretty simple solution to just put the coach at an age group above or below the one their kid plays in.

I would not want to be a new parent, show up in August and have the fun surprise of discovering the 'professional' coach we are paying for has his own kid on the team. There is zero benefit to the other players and a whole lot of downside.

As far as parent coaches go, the 2 in question for this specific age group are at least experienced coaches that know how to communicate with the girls. The only questionable thing that has occurred is when the head coach is there as a parent and ends up pulling his kid over to "coach" during a game. For anyone new to the team(s) I think it's valid to be informed of the dynamic, but coaching experience should also be considered.

i think admin from various clubs lurk on this forum here and post as "happy parents".

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is in the rising u12 age group (assuming that is the one you are talking about) and the coach told us the practices will not be combined and will be help back to back. Additionally, the current coach, LK, is moving to an assistant coach role and will be staying with the age group.

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a coach is listed as the first and second coach for the same age group, will they combine the practice and then each player will not get much attention. Or are the teams guaranteed their own individual team practice.

So he's not a parent coach who will be coaching his own kid?

His kid is on the second team that he will also be coaching, so yes he is a "parent coach". My daughter is on that second team and I have no problem with it. His current pre-ECNL team is 3rd in the division and the second team is in NCSL Div 1.

There are @11 families on that team, and one of those few families from an obscure ncsl
Team no one ever talks about just happened to be on here, see a post and respond in 20 minutes?

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Anonymous wrote:Question: If a coach is listed as the first and second coach for the same age group, will they combine the practice and then each player will not get much attention. Or are the teams guaranteed their own individual team practice.

They don't combine practices. They'll do different days or back-to-back practices.

yes but his kid will be practicing with both teams since it's back to back...

Anonymous wrote:If your DD is good enough, it won't matter if the coach has a player on the team or not.

Always the parents whose DDs are equivalent or worse that have a problem with parent coaches.

It won't matter? Lol.

Anonymous wrote:If your DD is good enough, it won't matter if the coach has a player on the team or not.

Always the parents whose DDs are equivalent or worse that have a problem with parent coaches.

Hilariois!

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a coach is listed as the first and second coach for the same age group, will they combine the practice and then each player will not get much attention. Or are the teams guaranteed their own individual team practice.

They don't combine practices. They'll do different days or back-to-back practices.

If your DD is good enough, it won't matter if the coach has a player on the team or not.

Always the parents whose DDs are equivalent or worse that have a problem with parent coaches.

Are Valor parent coached teams like BRYC used to be with their parent coached bridge teams?

They were travel lite basically with parent coaches but very affordable, something around $800 for the year to play NCSL. Not sure if BRYC still has those but they were a good deal for families.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is in the rising u12 age group (assuming that is the one you are talking about) and the coach told us the practices will not be combined and will be help back to back. Additionally, the current coach, LK, is moving to an assistant coach role and will be staying with the age group.

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a coach is listed as the first and second coach for the same age group, will they combine the practice and then each player will not get much attention. Or are the teams guaranteed their own individual team practice.

So he's not a parent coach who will be coaching his own kid?

His kid is on the second team that he will also be coaching, so yes he is a "parent coach". My daughter is on that second team and I have no problem with it. His current pre-ECNL team is 3rd in the division and the second team is in NCSL Div 1.

Does Valor let all the players trying out for both teams know ahead of time that it will be a Parent Coach Situation so they can make an informed decision about the offer?

The clubs who do this never do. Coach Daddy at NVA doesn’t advertise that he will provide his kid special treatment. You just need to try stay informed and/ or play for clubs that put ethics before personal bias. It is like a teacher who has their kid in their own class.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is in the rising u12 age group (assuming that is the one you are talking about) and the coach told us the practices will not be combined and will be help back to back. Additionally, the current coach, LK, is moving to an assistant coach role and will be staying with the age group.

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a coach is listed as the first and second coach for the same age group, will they combine the practice and then each player will not get much attention. Or are the teams guaranteed their own individual team practice.

So he's not a parent coach who will be coaching his own kid?

His kid is on the second team that he will also be coaching, so yes he is a "parent coach". My daughter is on that second team and I have no problem with it. His current pre-ECNL team is 3rd in the division and the second team is in NCSL Div 1.

Does Valor let all the players trying out for both teams know ahead of time that it will be a Parent Coach Situation so they can make an informed decision about the offer?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in the rising u12 age group (assuming that is the one you are talking about) and the coach told us the practices will not be combined and will be help back to back. Additionally, the current coach, LK, is moving to an assistant coach role and will be staying with the age group.

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a coach is listed as the first and second coach for the same age group, will they combine the practice and then each player will not get much attention. Or are the teams guaranteed their own individual team practice.

So he's not a parent coach who will be coaching his own kid?

His kid is on the second team that he will also be coaching, so yes he is a "parent coach". My daughter is on that second team and I have no problem with it. His current pre-ECNL team is 3rd in the division and the second team is in NCSL Div 1.