Anonymous
09/19/2020 19:58
Subject: Re:RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Kind of sad how much longer this thread is than the remembrance one.
I posted on the second or third page of that one that I have so much sadness going on in my life that the only emotion I have room for issues like this right now is anger.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 19:34
Subject: Re:RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm of the camp who believe she should have retired during the Obama administration. I do not intend to demean her historical contributions to the court, including those during the Obama administration that would not have occurred if she had retired, but she had five cancer diagnoses and said she was going to work until age 90. Last year she responded to critics calling for her retirement essentially saying that Obama could not have gotten as good of a justice confirmed:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/18/rbg-fires-back-against-critics-who-say-she-should-have-retired-under-obama.html
It's hard to say if it was commitment to the cause, denial about her health problems and longevity, or selfishness. Either way now her entire legacy and all she fought for is it stake.
+ 1
I think it was very selfish
But you are. You are also presuming to have better judgment than she, who had more knowledge of the situation than you an outsider.
Finally, being a Monday morning quarteback does nothing to fix the current situation we are in. How about using that energy towards something that is helpful now like vocally pressuring senators to abide by their words.
I mean she had a calendar and knew how old she was. I think she did AMAZING things for women and is a hero, but she fumbled the ball and thought of herself when things mattered the most. She should have been unselfish and stepped down for her replacement years ago.
Scalia died, that caught people by surprise. She probably would have retired under Obama, but Scalia passed, then there was a vacancy for almost a year. Of course she wasn’t going to retire so that there were two vacancies at the same time. The GOP’s obstruction was unprecedented, plus everyone assumed Hilary would win. So her staying on the court was not selfish, it was practically forced
Anonymous
09/19/2020 19:18
Subject: Re:RGB Politcal Discussion
Kind of sad how much longer this thread is than the remembrance one.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 19:17
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does this mean we can also overturn the dreamers? DACA? If so then yes I will be voting Trump 10000%
You're a ghoul. These are real people whose lives you're so casually talking about ruining. Why?
Because he’s a malicious piece of shit with no redeeming value.
+1 he was voting for Trump already. He just wants to emphasize here how much he hates immigrants. It should be hard to live with so much hate, hope you don’t call yourself a Christian.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 19:16
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
It’ll be lagoa...Dems are gonna twist themselves into knots being anti-Latina
Anonymous
09/19/2020 19:11
Subject: Re:RGB Politcal Discussion
If the GOP was really interested in preventing unwanted pregnancies and abortions, they wouldn't be fighting the ACA's coverage of birth control or trying to shut down Planned Parenthood which provides birth control to millions of women.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:57
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump must be a luckiest politician. He barely won the election in 2016 with zero political experience and since he became a president, he had already picked two supreme court justices. This will be his third pick. And in the middle of a very difficult reelection fight, this event may help him to shift a focus from the pandemic to the supreme court.
The Supreme Court is poised to eliminate health insurance for tens of millions of people in the middle of the pandemic, so they’re very much intertwined.
It has basically already happened. A hung court (at best 4-4) lets the lower court decision stand. ACA is all bet dead.
Will ACA end immediately?
As soon as the court releases an opinion next summer. The case is being heard in November. The only thing that will stop it is if Biden wins and the Congress passes a law that corrects the flaws in the current court case. Trump will let it die and millions will be uninsured. He has no replacement policy.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:51
Subject: Re:RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roe will never be overturned. GOP only uses that to get the “unborn babies” lovers to vote for them. The whole point of stacking conservative SCOTUS is citizens united, rolling back regulations and voter suppression. Oh and letting Trump off the hook for his crimes. If Roe were to be overturned, the evangelicals would stay home.
How old are you? I’m betting under 35.
New Poster, but I doubt Roe will be overturned. Its likely they will go after PP vs Casey.
Roe will be overturned if McCOnnell gets this pick through.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:49
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Murkowski already announced she wouldn’t vote for a nominee right?
Romney has been quiet, but I think he’s a probable no.
One thing to remember is that Martha McSally will probably lose her election and, since she was appointed, has to be out by November 30th (but Mark Kelly can kick her out on Nov 4th). Therefore, unless the GOP can get all of this done before the election, they’ll be down to 52 seats, which means 3 defections would be enough.
Won’t matter, Alabama is going Republican (also a special election seat)
Alabama is not holding a special election for Doug Jones’s seat this year. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:49
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:What am I missing? Trump is in office till Jan 21, so they still have almost 3 months after the election to install their GOP pick.
The senate changes on Jan 3 and if they try to do a lame duck appointment after losing the WH and senate, where will be a lot of "realignment" after Jan 21 including expanding the Court to 13 or 15 judges.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:48
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump must be a luckiest politician. He barely won the election in 2016 with zero political experience and since he became a president, he had already picked two supreme court justices. This will be his third pick. And in the middle of a very difficult reelection fight, this event may help him to shift a focus from the pandemic to the supreme court.
The Supreme Court is poised to eliminate health insurance for tens of millions of people in the middle of the pandemic, so they’re very much intertwined.
It has basically already happened. A hung court (at best 4-4) lets the lower court decision stand. ACA is all bet dead.
Will ACA end immediately?
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:48
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does this mean we can also overturn the dreamers? DACA? If so then yes I will be voting Trump 10000%
You're a ghoul. These are real people whose lives you're so casually talking about ruining. Why?
Because he’s a malicious piece of shit with no redeeming value.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:47
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So McConnell can ram through a SC confirmation but cannot pass another bill to help people who have lost their jobs because of Covid? Interesting.
Yup. Because the democrats got rid of the filibuster for judicial nominations. Resp the whirlwind.
Wrong. Dems left it for the supreme court. Republicans blew it up for gorsuch
Wrong. Reid knew damn well this was going to happen. He was promised that it would and he didn’t care. It opened the gates and you know it. If Reid hadn’t done it, you wouldn’t be in this situation. Reap what you sow.
If Reid hadn't done it that Senate wouldn't have been able to accomplish anything.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:47
Subject: RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump must be a luckiest politician. He barely won the election in 2016 with zero political experience and since he became a president, he had already picked two supreme court justices. This will be his third pick. And in the middle of a very difficult reelection fight, this event may help him to shift a focus from the pandemic to the supreme court.
The Supreme Court is poised to eliminate health insurance for tens of millions of people in the middle of the pandemic, so they’re very much intertwined.
It has basically already happened. A hung court (at best 4-4) lets the lower court decision stand. ACA is all bet dead.
Anonymous
09/19/2020 18:44
Subject: Re:RGB Politcal Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roe will never be overturned. GOP only uses that to get the “unborn babies” lovers to vote for them. The whole point of stacking conservative SCOTUS is citizens united, rolling back regulations and voter suppression. Oh and letting Trump off the hook for his crimes. If Roe were to be overturned, the evangelicals would stay home.
How old are you? I’m betting under 35.
DP. I'm 30 and curious what I'm missing on the subject by not being 35+.
You grew up in a world with safe, legal abortion.
I'm 55. I grew up with the stories of friends of my mother and grandmother who died from back-alley abortions, and family who spent "a year abroad" and were forced to give birth and give the child up for adoption.
You think we can't go backward. We can and we will.