Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:13
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
I just heard that a woman who had direct contact with the pastor afflicted cannot even get tested until Friday. She hugged and kissed him on both cheeks. What does that say about test availability??
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:12
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look, I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see a lot of clear-headed thinking in this thread. I unfortunately think that we need to prepare for a world where COVID-19 is a widely circulating virus. Do we permanently close schools? What do we do?
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A vaccine is being developed now. That is the plan, so we can have it more controlled like the flu. My guess is that a medicine will likely be developed as well, to avoid disruptions that we are experiencing now.
No, we don't need to permanently close anything. Exposure to the novel coronavirus is inevitable. The vaccine will be ready in about 2 years.
BUT.
We need closures now to prevent a deadly spike in cases that will overwhelm our healthcare system, which is already operating at capacity from flu patients.
We need to slow down the epidemic to stagger hospitalizations so that patients aren't dying in corridors, like in Italy or China.
That's all, and it's so simple to understand once you frame it in terms of hospital capacity, but apparently people just don't get it!
Personally I am not convinced that closing schools now will do much to slow the hospitalization rate. I am willing to try, though, and would not oppose it in my district. But I think a lot of the posters in this thread are living in a bit of a fantasy land about the impact and are also myopically ignoring (or don't care) about how most Americans will feed their kids, keep their jobs, or pay their rent if schools are closed. I get a distinct "let them eat cake" sense from the more rabid pro-closure posters that's really off-putting.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:11
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Look, I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see a lot of clear-headed thinking in this thread. I unfortunately think that we need to prepare for a world where COVID-19 is a widely circulating virus. Do we permanently close schools? What do we do?
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No we don’t just like we should not focus on the next year Oscars...
We have a problem now and need solution that fix it now.
Why worry what will or will not this virus become.
All viruses of this sort loose virulency and became weak.
Also where is SARS, MERS, H1N1..SWINE FLU... and who cares..
This virus might be a problem in the future but probably wont since people will get natural immunity. Where is Spanish flu? Nobody vaccinated for it in the subsequent decades..
O resson whatsoever believe this will be perennial. Only if you want to inflict the fear.
There is good reason and data to close the schools. One, it slows down transmission which is very important. It gives researchers better time to try currently approved drugs. To develop a vaccine. To develop new treatments and drugs. To spread out hospital admissions. Throwing up your hands because everyone is currently susceptible is not an appropriate public health response. The steepness of the curve matters. A lot.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:10
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You seem unaware that closing schools to reduce spread will allow workers to do their jobs.
The reason schools closed in China, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, UAE, Iran and Japan was because health care workers had too many patients to attend to. They needed to shut everything down and keep kids and most workers home.
So what happened to all of the workers told to stay home? Are they just going without pay indefinitely?
They'll be eligible for unemployment, probably.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:09
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You seem unaware that closing schools to reduce spread will allow workers to do their jobs.
The reason schools closed in China, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, UAE, Iran and Japan was because health care workers had too many patients to attend to. They needed to shut everything down and keep kids and most workers home.
So what happened to all of the workers told to stay home? Are they just going without pay indefinitely?
I know that n Shanghai most workers got their February paychecks, at least if they worked for larger companies. And there was a moratorium on some bills. I assume China was providing economic help to businesses in cities that were locked down.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:03
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Closing for any amount of time would help. Having kids go to school in two shifts would help. Pulling all kids of non essential workers (healthcare etc) would help. But we are doing mostly nothing.
Two shifts??
Anonymous
03/09/2020 16:36
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if school closes whether daycares and preschools will follow suit? If so, will you still pay tuition if there is an extended closure?
I want the teachers at our preschool to continue getting paid. But if there is a long term closure and I’m unable to work, there’s no way we can swing dropping over 3k/month on childcare while not collecting a paycheck myself. I’m worried about the widespread effects of this.
My daughter’s daycare was impacted by one of the COVID19 cases in northern Virginia. They closed early today as a precaution to disinfect the premises and hope to reopen tomorrow or the next day.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 16:35
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
We've got idiots here in Arlington who mention all the places they will take their kids if school shuts down. I don't know that the entitled residents can be stopped. Sometimes I hate this town.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 16:33
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:You seem unaware that closing schools to reduce spread will allow workers to do their jobs.
The reason schools closed in China, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, UAE, Iran and Japan was because health care workers had too many patients to attend to. They needed to shut everything down and keep kids and most workers home.
So what happened to all of the workers told to stay home? Are they just going without pay indefinitely?
Anonymous
03/09/2020 16:13
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one wants to have their kids at home, but think of the teachers. Many are in the older age brackets. Myself included. Many kids don’t show symptoms but are highly contagious. It’s not enough to wait and see how many get sick.
+1000
I highly doubt the schools are going to close "just in case." They will wait for something to happen first. They will not have community support if they close before even 1 student or teacher gets sick.
And by then it will be too late.
+1
this disease has a long incubation period. By the time students and teachers actually start showing symptoms, the entire school will be infected.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 16:02
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if school closes whether daycares and preschools will follow suit? If so, will you still pay tuition if there is an extended closure?
I want the teachers at our preschool to continue getting paid. But if there is a long term closure and I’m unable to work, there’s no way we can swing dropping over 3k/month on childcare while not collecting a paycheck myself. I’m worried about the widespread effects of this.
no one can answer this at this point. and the answer may be specific to each daycare.
I’m daycare and we are grappling with the same questions you are. If we don’t continue to get paid then we have to lay people off. After all mortgage utilities don’t stop collecting just because we don’t get a paycheck. I would imagine we are a bill for you I would hope that people would continue to pay the day care bill.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:59
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look, I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see a lot of clear-headed thinking in this thread. I unfortunately think that we need to prepare for a world where COVID-19 is a widely circulating virus. Do we permanently close schools? What do we do?
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A vaccine is being developed now. That is the plan, so we can have it more controlled like the flu. My guess is that a medicine will likely be developed as well, to avoid disruptions that we are experiencing now.
No, we don't need to permanently close anything. Exposure to the novel coronavirus is inevitable. The vaccine will be ready in about 2 years.
BUT.
We need closures now to prevent a deadly spike in cases that will overwhelm our healthcare system, which is already operating at capacity from flu patients.
We need to slow down the epidemic to stagger hospitalizations so that patients aren't dying in corridors, like in Italy or China.
That's all, and it's so simple to understand once you frame it in terms of hospital capacity, but apparently people just don't get it!
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:58
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look, I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see a lot of clear-headed thinking in this thread. I unfortunately think that we need to prepare for a world where COVID-19 is a widely circulating virus. Do we permanently close schools? What do we do?
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A vaccine is being developed now. That is the plan, so we can have it more controlled like the flu. My guess is that a medicine will likely be developed as well, to avoid disruptions that we are experiencing now.
No, we don't need to permanently close anything. Exposure to the novel coronavirus is inevitable. The vaccine will be ready in about 2 years.
BUT.
We need closures now to prevent a deadly spike in cases that will overwhelm our healthcare system, which is already operating at capacity from flu patients.
We need to slow down the epidemic to stagger hospitalizations so that patients aren't dying in corridors, like in Italy or China.
That's all, and it's so simple to understand once you frame it in terms of hospital capacity, but apparently people just don't get it!
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:54
Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Look, I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see a lot of clear-headed thinking in this thread. I unfortunately think that we need to prepare for a world where COVID-19 is a widely circulating virus. Do we permanently close schools? What do we do?
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/quote]
A vaccine is being developed now. That is the plan, so we can have it more controlled like the flu. My guess is that a medicine will likely be developed as well, to avoid disruptions that we are experiencing now.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:50
Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if school closes whether daycares and preschools will follow suit? If so, will you still pay tuition if there is an extended closure?
I want the teachers at our preschool to continue getting paid. But if there is a long term closure and I’m unable to work, there’s no way we can swing dropping over 3k/month on childcare while not collecting a paycheck myself. I’m worried about the widespread effects of this.
no one can answer this at this point. and the answer may be specific to each daycare.