Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 20:59     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
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Anonymous wrote:Curious about other people’s thoughts on why Serena took Eden’s death so badly. Seems like the standard consequence for the crime. I guess I’m just surprised she took it so hard.

I’m really getting tired of the close ups on June. It’s done several times each episode. I get it, she’s upset.



I think Serena was devastated for several reasons. Eden was the kind of "good, pious girl" (her words) that Gilead was supposed to produce and reward. Serena liked and felt maternal toward her. But she chose "true love" over Gilead's ideology, which I suspect triggered her for several reasons. Serena, who despises her own husband, was sympathetic toward the young girl's quest for love and perhaps is realizing her loyalty to Giliead might not actually represent the right course of action. Presumably she would like" her own" daughter to experience love not just ideology and a bad arranged marriage.


I think Serena is regretting everything, between the writing and reading with June and her treatment in Canada, she is starting to realize the full volume of her actions. She is even verbalizing what has been done (yelling at her husband for rape, as if she wasn't literally holding June down).
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 17:09     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:Curious about other people’s thoughts on why Serena took Eden’s death so badly. Seems like the standard consequence for the crime. I guess I’m just surprised she took it so hard.

I’m really getting tired of the close ups on June. It’s done several times each episode. I get it, she’s upset.



I think Serena was devastated for several reasons. Eden was the kind of "good, pious girl" (her words) that Gilead was supposed to produce and reward. Serena liked and felt maternal toward her. But she chose "true love" over Gilead's ideology, which I suspect triggered her for several reasons. Serena, who despises her own husband, was sympathetic toward the young girl's quest for love and perhaps is realizing her loyalty to Giliead might not actually represent the right course of action. Presumably she would like" her own" daughter to experience love not just ideology and a bad arranged marriage.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 15:17     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Curious about other people’s thoughts on why Serena took Eden’s death so badly. Seems like the standard consequence for the crime. I guess I’m just surprised she took it so hard.

I’m really getting tired of the close ups on June. It’s done several times each episode. I get it, she’s upset.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:27     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
I understood the drowning scene as Gillead requesting repentance so that they’ll enter the gates of Heaven after they drowned instead of dying and going to Hell for their sins. Eden felt her actions were justified according to the Bible and did not need to repent to God for their love, which is why she was reciting the Corinthians scripture.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:24     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Just when I think this show can’t get creepier, they bring in Whitford! I don’t think he even wants a child. He took in Emily because he thought she was broken mentally. He wants a toy.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:16     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
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Anonymous wrote:The metal balls already in the pool are chilling. You can see them in their before Eden and the guy even jump. So many souls already lost so tragically.

How is the manner of death determined for crimes in Gilead? We’ve seen hangings, shootings, drownings, the colonies where the women are worked to death. Such horrific deaths.


I was curious about how that was decided. watched this late so I may have missed something. Were they giving Eden a chance to repent and would they have spared her if she did? I think the guard was going in either way.


I was actually surprised she was downgraded from Econowife to Handmaid. Wasn’t that what essentially happened to June for the same “crime” of adultery. I would have liked to see Eden become a handmaid and Nick struggle to try to rescue them both in S3.


Wallingford probably wouldn’t let that happen. It was an embarrassment to him and his position that they ran off.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:11     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The metal balls already in the pool are chilling. You can see them in their before Eden and the guy even jump. So many souls already lost so tragically.

How is the manner of death determined for crimes in Gilead? We’ve seen hangings, shootings, drownings, the colonies where the women are worked to death. Such horrific deaths.


I was curious about how that was decided. watched this late so I may have missed something. Were they giving Eden a chance to repent and would they have spared her if she did? I think the guard was going in either way.


I was actually surprised she was downgraded from Econowife to Handmaid. Wasn’t that what essentially happened to June for the same “crime” of adultery. I would have liked to see Eden become a handmaid and Nick struggle to try to rescue them both in S3.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:09     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
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Anonymous wrote:In the season premiere, was “This Women’s Work” just the background music/soundtrack or was it actually playing in the stadium? Either way, it was the only off note for me. I had my first child in the 90s and that song was on everyone’s labor mix tape.


Geez, really? That's kind of like everyone who danced to "Every Breath You Take" at their weddings.


Yep. It was not on mine, but it was one song everyone else in my Lamaze class included. The nurses in L&D actually made a snide comment about the song when they saw the boom box.

I admit that I now dislike the song (though I still like Kate Bush overall). It seemed a little OTT for an already emotionally wrenching scene and I was actually distracted trying to figure out if it was the background music or was being used as psychological warfare.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:09     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:The metal balls already in the pool are chilling. You can see them in their before Eden and the guy even jump. So many souls already lost so tragically.

How is the manner of death determined for crimes in Gilead? We’ve seen hangings, shootings, drownings, the colonies where the women are worked to death. Such horrific deaths.


I was curious about how that was decided. watched this late so I may have missed something. Were they giving Eden a chance to repent and would they have spared her if she did? I think the guard was going in either way.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:04     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
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Anonymous wrote:And in the book each house also had “Ritas”, which were housekeepers.


I thought they were Marthas. Like the biblical Martha.


They are different roles. Marthas cook, Ritas clean.



It was smart of the series to combine the two characters into one, keeps the focus on the central dynamic.


Isn’t the Martha in the Wallingfords house named Rita?


Yes, she is. That’s brilliant.


I like her character.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:03     Subject: Re:Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:Wow! Great episode. Finally know who ended up in the pool.
Why the change of heart in Serena? Didn’t understand why Nick walked away from June when she sat at the table. Seemed like the first time she was actually comforting him instead of the other way around.


Think Nick blamed himself for what happened to Eden. Was really upset and didn’t want to look weak in front of June. He can’t show emotion about the Commanders decision.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:01     Subject: Re:Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Wow! Great episode. Finally know who ended up in the pool.
Why the change of heart in Serena? Didn’t understand why Nick walked away from June when she sat at the table. Seemed like the first time she was actually comforting him instead of the other way around.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 10:01     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And in the book each house also had “Ritas”, which were housekeepers.


I thought they were Marthas. Like the biblical Martha.


They are different roles. Marthas cook, Ritas clean.



It was smart of the series to combine the two characters into one, keeps the focus on the central dynamic.


Isn’t the Martha in the Wallingfords house named Rita?


Yes, she is. That’s brilliant.


But she does both the cooking and cleaning.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 09:59     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And in the book each house also had “Ritas”, which were housekeepers.


I thought they were Marthas. Like the biblical Martha.


They are different roles. Marthas cook, Ritas clean.



It was smart of the series to combine the two characters into one, keeps the focus on the central dynamic.


Isn’t the Martha in the Wallingfords house named Rita?


Yes, she is. That’s brilliant.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 09:58     Subject: Handmaid's Tale Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And in the book each house also had “Ritas”, which were housekeepers.


I thought they were Marthas. Like the biblical Martha.


They are different roles. Marthas cook, Ritas clean.



It was smart of the series to combine the two characters into one, keeps the focus on the central dynamic.


Isn’t the Martha in the Wallingfords house named Rita?