Anonymous
10/10/2017 18:29
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
right- but that is the same planning unit. So one edge of the planning unit is .4 miles from Swanson. The other edge of the planning unit is .9 miles from both Swanson and Kenmore.
For the math impaired, this means that the entire PU is closer to Swanson than Kenmore and within one mile of Swanson.
+1 It's really that simple.
But it’s also not like they are trying to shop you across the county to Jefferson (which I know you would fight and I agree), but would you be as upset if they were shopping you to Stratford? There are some inconsistencies across the county because the schools are located where APS has land, not necessarily where the schools need to be. ASFS boundary? Campbell/Claremont/Carlin Springs. Discover and Jamestown too close. The fact is that there may be some kids who get buses a bit further. 1/2 mike should be sacrosanct, but even then, we might still see anamolies.
DP, yes I would have an issue busing my kids to Stratford. My DH family has a 7min walk to Swanson, it's less than 5min when I run my dog, and I see zero reason to put my kid on a bus anywhere.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 17:35
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Shipping not shopping (although it might feel that way)
Anonymous
10/10/2017 17:34
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
right- but that is the same planning unit. So one edge of the planning unit is .4 miles from Swanson. The other edge of the planning unit is .9 miles from both Swanson and Kenmore.
For the math impaired, this means that the entire PU is closer to Swanson than Kenmore and within one mile of Swanson.
+1 It's really that simple.
But it’s also not like they are trying to shop you across the county to Jefferson (which I know you would fight and I agree), but would you be as upset if they were shopping you to Stratford? There are some inconsistencies across the county because the schools are located where APS has land, not necessarily where the schools need to be. ASFS boundary? Campbell/Claremont/Carlin Springs. Discover and Jamestown too close. The fact is that there may be some kids who get buses a bit further. 1/2 mike should be sacrosanct, but even then, we might still see anamolies.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 17:12
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
right- but that is the same planning unit. So one edge of the planning unit is .4 miles from Swanson. The other edge of the planning unit is .9 miles from both Swanson and Kenmore.
For the math impaired, this means that the entire PU is closer to Swanson than Kenmore and within one mile of Swanson.
+1 It's really that simple.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 17:11
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
right- but that is the same planning unit. So one edge of the planning unit is .4 miles from Swanson. The other edge of the planning unit is .9 miles from both Swanson and Kenmore.
For the math impaired, this means that the entire PU is closer to Swanson than Kenmore and within one mile of Swanson.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:52
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
right- but that is the same planning unit. So one edge of the planning unit is .4 miles from Swanson. The other edge of the planning unit is .9 miles from both Swanson and Kenmore.
Well, the PU should be split, then. No one under a half mile should be bussed to another school for some social. That's not even my neighborhood and I think it's ridiculous.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:51
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
right- but that is the same planning unit. So one edge of the planning unit is .4 miles from Swanson. The other edge of the planning unit is .9 miles from both Swanson and Kenmore.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:48
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
But they are also talking about this part of DH: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5922+10th+Rd+N,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Swanson+Middle+School,+Washington+Boulevard,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8810202,-77.1407406,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45da4575bd7:0xa364e78683a08a48!2m2!1d-77.1404202!2d38.8782955!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b45b79e2271d:0xa2ae5eb016286aa1!2m2!1d-77.1395938!2d38.8825527!3e2
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:15
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'd even take the "protected" area down to 1/2 mile. It's ridiculous to bus students so close to a school to another school.
By that do you mean the entire planning unit if any portion of it falls within 1/2 mile- or do you mean if the majority is within 1/2 mile? b/c the DH parents up in arms over scenario 1H have a planning unit with a very few (maybe 10 houses? no idea if those houses have kids or not) within a 1/2 mile of Swanson. Most of that planning unit is 1mile- and the edge of it is 1 mile to Kenmore as well.
Split/change the PUs. No kid within 1/2 mile of a school should be bussed farther away.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:15
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
what a totally bizarre argument we are having-
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/800+N+Arlington+Mill+Dr,+Arlington,+VA+22205/Kenmore+Middle+School,+South+Carlin+Springs+Road,+Arlington,+VA/@38.8701551,-77.1345066,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b46823729e0d:0x346bbd1be6f02b9!2m2!1d-77.1345243!2d38.8748333!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b471f16a5c3f:0xdbc7abaf792e51ef!2m2!1d-77.1297847!2d38.8655441!3e2
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:12
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'd even take the "protected" area down to 1/2 mile. It's ridiculous to bus students so close to a school to another school.
By that do you mean the entire planning unit if any portion of it falls within 1/2 mile- or do you mean if the majority is within 1/2 mile? b/c the DH parents up in arms over scenario 1H have a planning unit with a very few (maybe 10 houses? no idea if those houses have kids or not) within a 1/2 mile of Swanson. Most of that planning unit is 1mile- and the edge of it is 1 mile to Kenmore as well.
Come on now -- the furthest reach of one of those DH PUs is Patrick Henry and Wilson -- which is still less than a mile to Swanson. The furthest part. Why don't you try plugging in Patrick Henry and Wilson into a map and then revisit your statement about it being 1 mile to Kenmore. Google maps is a handy tool.
Good to know that Kenmore suddenly moved itself to BonAir park. LOLZ.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:10
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
The address of Kenmore is 200 S Carlin Springs Rd, Arlington, VA 22204. Nice try. Are you a troll or something?
Anonymous
10/10/2017 16:03
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'd even take the "protected" area down to 1/2 mile. It's ridiculous to bus students so close to a school to another school.
By that do you mean the entire planning unit if any portion of it falls within 1/2 mile- or do you mean if the majority is within 1/2 mile? b/c the DH parents up in arms over scenario 1H have a planning unit with a very few (maybe 10 houses? no idea if those houses have kids or not) within a 1/2 mile of Swanson. Most of that planning unit is 1mile- and the edge of it is 1 mile to Kenmore as well.
Come on now -- the furthest reach of one of those DH PUs is Patrick Henry and Wilson -- which is still less than a mile to Swanson. The furthest part. Why don't you try plugging in Patrick Henry and Wilson into a map and then revisit your statement about it being 1 mile to Kenmore. Google maps is a handy tool.
yes it is- try again. Kenmore is closer than you think. 800 N. Arlington Mill drive. .9miles to Swanson. .9miles to Kenmore. that's what I like to call equidistant between two schools.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 15:42
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'd even take the "protected" area down to 1/2 mile. It's ridiculous to bus students so close to a school to another school.
By that do you mean the entire planning unit if any portion of it falls within 1/2 mile- or do you mean if the majority is within 1/2 mile? b/c the DH parents up in arms over scenario 1H have a planning unit with a very few (maybe 10 houses? no idea if those houses have kids or not) within a 1/2 mile of Swanson. Most of that planning unit is 1mile- and the edge of it is 1 mile to Kenmore as well.
Come on now -- the furthest reach of one of those DH PUs is Patrick Henry and Wilson -- which is still less than a mile to Swanson. The furthest part. Why don't you try plugging in Patrick Henry and Wilson into a map and then revisit your statement about it being 1 mile to Kenmore. Google maps is a handy tool.
Anonymous
10/10/2017 15:39
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
I'm okay taking it down to a 1 mile walk zone. I suspect in reality, that's probably the outer limit before parents start to drive anyway. I think the School Board boxed itself into a corner when they said "no new islands" but said they were going to consider demographics and proximity in the six factors. The only way to preserve walk zones and create real demographic balance (more than just tinkering around the edges of Kenmore) is to create new islands.