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Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

Typical angry AA woman.

Does AA here mean African American? Are you throwing the race card down?

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. I've marched for womens rights, I've championed the right to choose, I am in a equal and wonderful marriage. That said, I SAH. I will never, ever call myself a feminist after reading this thread. If you want to pretend that I live in 1850, run with it.

You people are seriously disgusting. Go fight your "battle" from your cubicle. I'll enjoy my family and my calm, ordered life.

Why in heaven's name would you make such a stupid statement over a thread on an anonymous internet chat board that you *know* has got to be full of trolls. You'll never call yourself a feminist after reading this thread? Then you never were one, and it has nothing to do with being a SAHM. Get a clue.

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I just quit to SAH with my son who has cerebral palsy. Settle yourself. If I heard you say that to me in real life, I would deck you and I don't think anyone would blame me.

Nah...you'd still be arrested.

I'm not one of the PPs, but you need to learn to control your anger. The first PP was out of line, but you also are out of line. Settle yourself.

Maybe I would be but I bet it would be worth it! I'd take that gamble anyway.

Anonymous wrote:DH - amused at the cat fight here.
You women are crazy. High school clicks and judginess are alive and strong. Men don't care about these things - to each their own.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

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Me too! The few SAHM I know very obviously do not want to work.

One had 2 cute kids. After both are in school she was finding herself bored and her husband was recommending that she could maybe look at part time work. She promptly got herself an untrained puppy. Since then she says she isn't looking to work again as now she has an untrained puppy and he takes up all of her time.

One mom was dating this rich guy who would not marry her. She got knocked up and after delivery has promptly stopped working. No mention of ever working again. Previously she was filling out law school applications.

It is quite bizarre.



You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

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This is EXACTLY what I meant. Thank you. And settle yourself, karma poster.

I just quit to SAH with my son who has cerebral palsy. Settle yourself. If I heard you say that to me in real life, I would deck you and I don't think anyone would blame me.

Nah...you'd still be arrested.

I'm not one of the PPs, but you need to learn to control your anger. The first PP was out of line, but you also are out of line. Settle yourself.

Anonymous wrote:Yep. I've marched for womens rights, I've championed the right to choose, I am in a equal and wonderful marriage. That said, I SAH. I will never, ever call myself a feminist after reading this thread. If you want to pretend that I live in 1850, run with it.

You people are seriously disgusting. Go fight your "battle" from your cubicle. I'll enjoy my family and my calm, ordered life.

Anonymous wrote:Yep. I've marched for womens rights, I've championed the right to choose, I am in a equal and wonderful marriage. That said, I SAH. I will never, ever call myself a feminist after reading this thread. If you want to pretend that I live in 1850, run with it.

You people are seriously disgusting. Go fight your "battle" from your cubicle. I'll enjoy my family and my calm, ordered life.

Anonymous wrote:Yep. I've marched for womens rights, I've championed the right to choose, I am in a equal and wonderful marriage. That said, I SAH. I will never, ever call myself a feminist after reading this thread. If you want to pretend that I live in 1850, run with it.

You people are seriously disgusting. Go fight your "battle" from your cubicle. I'll enjoy my family and my calm, ordered life.

Anonymous wrote:Let me shock the sh*t out of you. It is okay not to be a feminist. After all, being phugly and dressing like a trucker is not known as a pathway to a fulfilling life. To each her own.

One thing is for sure: Nobody find loudmouth women interesting, let alone attractive. Except cats. Cats love them.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

+1

Me too! The few SAHM I know very obviously do not want to work.

One had 2 cute kids. After both are in school she was finding herself bored and her husband was recommending that she could maybe look at part time work. She promptly got herself an untrained puppy. Since then she says she isn't looking to work again as now she has an untrained puppy and he takes up all of her time.

One mom was dating this rich guy who would not marry her. She got knocked up and after delivery has promptly stopped working. No mention of ever working again. Previously she was filling out law school applications.

It is quite bizarre.



You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

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This is EXACTLY what I meant. Thank you. And settle yourself, karma poster.

I just quit to SAH with my son who has cerebral palsy. Settle yourself. If I heard you say that to me in real life, I would deck you and I don't think anyone would blame me.

Anonymous wrote:General free floating anger, the same way I'm angry at the women from eastern Europe who marry scaggy old guys just to get a green card. Hard for American woman to stand up and demand to be treated decently when guys still have the option of picking some broad from a catalog who will be so grateful than she won't care how he acts. Saw it in the foreign service. Why would any guy voluntarily decide to be decent and do half the laundry as long as the other option exists? you sahms are the other option.