Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they gave Madeline the affair so Reese could have more dramatic acting opportunities. i don't think they had to though. Her daughter's project and feelings about her ex could have done it.

+1
Though I liked the way she and her older daughter became closer after she confided in her about the affair. Their relationship took on a whole new dimension, more like two adults/friends. I liked Madeline's character. She felt very real to me.

With respect to your take, I did not like this. I don't like moms confiding in their kids, even teenagers.

Did anybody see the quick interaction between Abigail and Ed at the funeral? It was sort of creepy again.

Anonymous wrote:I think they gave Madeline the affair so Reese could have more dramatic acting opportunities. i don't think they had to though. Her daughter's project and feelings about her ex could have done it.

+1
Though I liked the way she and her older daughter became closer after she confided in her about the affair. Their relationship took on a whole new dimension, more like two adults/friends. I liked Madeline's character. She felt very real to me.

I think they gave Madeline the affair so Reese could have more dramatic acting opportunities. i don't think they had to though. Her daughter's project and feelings about her ex could have done it.

PP again. Forgot to mention I *loved* seeing Bonnie and Madeline become close after that experience with Perry. I'm not divorced, nor do I want to be!, but I've often been intrigued with the idea of becoming friends with my husband's (hypothetical) second wife. I think it's so wonderful if it works out that way.

Also liked Renata's understanding of the situation with Max. I enjoy seeing the women portrayed as three-dimensional characters - no one is completely good/bad.

Book vs show ending for those that want to know.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/big-little-lies-show-vs-book-ending.html

I loved the ending too, but agree with others that they didn't need to lie about Perry's death. Which, btw, did seems extreme considering he didn't fall that far. What did he impale himself on? It would have been more believable had he fallen a much longer distance.

I plan on reading the book to find out what Bonnie's larger role was, but I have to say: I loved the fact that she emerged as this very selfless person. I kind of thought that was a just a front during the show, that she was just a self-righteous, "let's all just get along" hippie chick. But now I think she was sincere throughout. And I guess, really strong from all that yoga!

I liked the ending and, like another PP, was on the edge of my seat the whole time. The scenes during the fundraiser were so nerve-wracking! A few things I would like to have seen though: Celeste revisiting the therapist with Max, and having the therapist help him with what he'd been through (and maybe Josh, too). Celeste thanking her therapist. And Celeste actually documenting the abuse and sharing it with her friends. The way it ended, there was no way to really show them what she had been going through all that time.

Also, strange to think that Ziggy and the twins are half-brothers. Did Jane ever need to prove that, or did everyone just accept it?

They did a good job wrapping it all up in an hour. I had no idea who was going to die, but was glad it was Perry. It was a "happy" ending, the bad guy gets knocked off and the women form a close bond. I too loved the lens view at the end- I take that as a way of saying there could be a sequel.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So was that view thru binoculars at the end supposed to imply that the theater guy's wife was still stalking Madeline??

I think it was supposed to be the detective watching them, no? They don't go into it (on the show) what happens so the detectives still know they're lying.

I think the binoculars at the end was a bit of a wink to us, the viewers. It underscores both the voyeurism of the show (the sex, the violence, the trauma, heck even the real estate) and at the same time, the very premise that binds the characters together - both big and little lies. What one sees through the binoculars view is a group of beautiful families laughing and playing on the beach appearing happy and perfect. But we know that's a lie and the framing of that final shot was perfection.

Spot on. This is exactly what I got from that last shot as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was Bonnie so het up as to push Perry down the stairs? That I don't get.

This is very well explained in the book but not in the TV show. Also the ending of the book was slightly different and explains more. Don't know if I should reveal here in case others plan to read the book. If you read a recap of the show some verities are giving away the book needing and you can see the Bonnie connection.

Yes! It should've been a longer episode. Why it was Bonnie was a HUGE part of the end of the book!

Anonymous wrote:Why was Bonnie so het up as to push Perry down the stairs? That I don't get.

This is very well explained in the book but not in the TV show. Also the ending of the book was slightly different and explains more. Don't know if I should reveal here in case others plan to read the book. If you read a recap of the show some verities are giving away the book needing and you can see the Bonnie connection.

Why was Bonnie so het up as to push Perry down the stairs? That I don't get.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So was that view thru binoculars at the end supposed to imply that the theater guy's wife was still stalking Madeline??

I think it was supposed to be the detective watching them, no? They don't go into it (on the show) what happens so the detectives still know they're lying.

I think the binoculars at the end was a bit of a wink to us, the viewers. It underscores both the voyeurism of the show (the sex, the violence, the trauma, heck even the real estate) and at the same time, the very premise that binds the characters together - both big and little lies. What one sees through the binoculars view is a group of beautiful families laughing and playing on the beach appearing happy and perfect. But we know that's a lie and the framing of that final shot was perfection.

I felt the final scene showed freedom from the lies. And the revelation of lies brought hopefulness.
That was great work all around.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So was that view thru binoculars at the end supposed to imply that the theater guy's wife was still stalking Madeline??

I think it was supposed to be the detective watching them, no? They don't go into it (on the show) what happens so the detectives still know they're lying.

I think the binoculars at the end was a bit of a wink to us, the viewers. It underscores both the voyeurism of the show (the sex, the violence, the trauma, heck even the real estate) and at the same time, the very premise that binds the characters together - both big and little lies. What one sees through the binoculars view is a group of beautiful families laughing and playing on the beach appearing happy and perfect. But we know that's a lie and the framing of that final shot was perfection.

Anonymous wrote:Ok now I can finally say;
The madeleine affair was not in the book and I'm super annoyed they added it

0f all the changes from the book, the affair was one big change I don't think was worth it. It raised conflict that wasn't really resolved except for Madeline saying Ed's the best guy she knows (after he killed Elvis's Wonder of You).

The awesome music was at its finest tonight. But how was Perry's push/fall of a dozen streps enough for all that blood and his death?

Loved the women and Judd on the beach ending.