Seriously guys, this bickering back and forth about "transplants this" and "natives that" is really childish. Clearly neither group is homogeneous. Over the last several decades, DC has been majority black, but not totally black. Even within the black community, there are significant socio-economic and cultural differences. So, when you talk about "natives" which natives do you mean? The natives who have lived for generations in upper Northwest and think that White Boy is actually white (or who would appreciate someone telling them who "White Boy" is)? The natives in Trinidad who probably think Fugazi is a new restaurant opening on H Street? It's the same with transplants. Even more so because they come from all over.

So, just stop the arguing. It's ridiculous and makes all of you look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

Make us.

Oh right, you can't.

+10000

Right. But the natives can go on and on and on about what used to be here, and will never, ever be back. Too bad the natives have no other options, and no where else to go. Too bad they didn't put all that energy into trying to save what was here. Too bad they had no power to. Too bad what was here (but no longer) was not important enough for them to band together, and raise money, or whatever, to stop whatever so offends them (which apparently is everything). Too bad natives are so frustrated with their lives, as a result. Apparently, this is all the transplants fault, and this never would have happened without the transplants.

Instead (for example) why don't the natives burn down a new house being built, nicer than what the natives will ever have, in the name of "resistance", or as most everyone sees it, hostility: http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/01/08/4376845/

Too bad the natives don't have better coping mechanisms.

Natives, did you ever think that when transplants go home - to some to posh places (imagine that!) - and changes happen? I mean really, how do you tie your own shoes in the morning? How do you get through life with so little ability to move the f*ck on? It really is a wonder. But by all means, go ahead and wallow in your own self pity, and keep trying to blame people who having nothing remotely to do with it. How is that working for you?

I think if you keep posting what used to be, it will help you with all of your troubles. But probably not. You are doing a fine job of making yourself look ridiculous.

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

YES!

Oh great. A sock puppet from Texas slagging on DC transplants. Just an FYI, if you are a DC native who no longer lives in DC, you are a transplant yourself. None of us who are here now care if you think we don't fit in. Also, if you are a sock puppet, well, you are a sock puppet and we don't care about either of your opinions.

Right, and I don't walk around with a sense of entitlement regarding my (temporary and recent) new city.

Where are you from Jeff? The "transplant" label seems to have struck a nerve....

I'm from the great state of Illinois. The land of Lincoln and the heart of "flyover" country (unless you have a connection in Chicago in the Winter, in which it is "sit around and wait" country).

I've been in DC for 30 years and have no patience for 30 year old and younger natives giving me shit. On the other hand, I'll put up with it all day from 60 year old and older natives. I also think transplants that use DC slang in an attempt to look cool actually look silly, with the exception of the word "bama" which I have come to appreciate regardless of who uses it.

I think people who didnt grow up in a major city and haven't had to sit back and watch all their beloved local spots, the very culture that formed the city they were raised in, supplanted by a bunch of entitled people who want to scrub away the interesting character of the city, not to mention make life more difficult for many people whose families have lived in the city for generations (and yes, there is a racial element there as well), need to try to be understanding of the emotion they have seen expressed on this board.

To us, DC is not just "a cool city", a "place you go for work", "the nation's capital", or whatever. It is HOME. Where we spent our childhoods and young adulthoods.

And seeing that irrevocably changed, the history scrubbed out and replaced with shiny, happy new chain stores... it's gross.

If you can't hack changes and growth, maybe you (dear native) are the one who needs to leave.

You say things like this and then wonder why many natives dislike you?

I don't wonder that at all. In fact, I would not care if it were true. Maybe it is, for that matter. No love lost.

Because, natives.

Its sad to see how much of the character of DC has been demolished and destroyed.
Gone forever.

Replaced with condos.
Yoga.
Cupcakes.
Whole Foods.
Disgusting obnoxious pretentious gentrifiers.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

YES!

Oh great. A sock puppet from Texas slagging on DC transplants. Just an FYI, if you are a DC native who no longer lives in DC, you are a transplant yourself. None of us who are here now care if you think we don't fit in. Also, if you are a sock puppet, well, you are a sock puppet and we don't care about either of your opinions.

Right, and I don't walk around with a sense of entitlement regarding my (temporary and recent) new city.

Where are you from Jeff? The "transplant" label seems to have struck a nerve....

I'm from the great state of Illinois. The land of Lincoln and the heart of "flyover" country (unless you have a connection in Chicago in the Winter, in which it is "sit around and wait" country).

I've been in DC for 30 years and have no patience for 30 year old and younger natives giving me shit. On the other hand, I'll put up with it all day from 60 year old and older natives. I also think transplants that use DC slang in an attempt to look cool actually look silly, with the exception of the word "bama" which I have come to appreciate regardless of who uses it.

I think people who didnt grow up in a major city and haven't had to sit back and watch all their beloved local spots, the very culture that formed the city they were raised in, supplanted by a bunch of entitled people who want to scrub away the interesting character of the city, not to mention make life more difficult for many people whose families have lived in the city for generations (and yes, there is a racial element there as well), need to try to be understanding of the emotion they have seen expressed on this board.

To us, DC is not just "a cool city", a "place you go for work", "the nation's capital", or whatever. It is HOME. Where we spent our childhoods and young adulthoods.

And seeing that irrevocably changed, the history scrubbed out and replaced with shiny, happy new chain stores... it's gross.

If you can't hack changes and growth, maybe you (dear native) are the one who needs to leave.

You say things like this and then wonder why many natives dislike you?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

YES!

Oh great. A sock puppet from Texas slagging on DC transplants. Just an FYI, if you are a DC native who no longer lives in DC, you are a transplant yourself. None of us who are here now care if you think we don't fit in. Also, if you are a sock puppet, well, you are a sock puppet and we don't care about either of your opinions.

Right, and I don't walk around with a sense of entitlement regarding my (temporary and recent) new city.

Where are you from Jeff? The "transplant" label seems to have struck a nerve....

I'm from the great state of Illinois. The land of Lincoln and the heart of "flyover" country (unless you have a connection in Chicago in the Winter, in which it is "sit around and wait" country).

I've been in DC for 30 years and have no patience for 30 year old and younger natives giving me shit. On the other hand, I'll put up with it all day from 60 year old and older natives. I also think transplants that use DC slang in an attempt to look cool actually look silly, with the exception of the word "bama" which I have come to appreciate regardless of who uses it.

I agree 100%

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Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

Not trying to fit in. Just trying to use this place, only as long a necessary, to make money and then move on.

Trust me, I promise not to stay 15 seconds longer than I absolutely need to.

Like I said... Leechers gonna leech.

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Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

Crazy lady, go back to geography class and check the stats about where people are coming from to upgrade Washington DC.

+1

SCHOOLED.

If the natives left the area for other than college (if that), they would realize that not everyone is from "flyover country". Some transplants are from much nicer places than D.C. Hard to imagine, if you hardly ever left this area, I know. Grow up and leave your mother's skirt hem for once. Natives can be so pitiful. Except I would not waste my time pitying them, because their attitude is piss poor.

D.C. is a part of the journey for most of us, NOT the destination. I suppose that is what mothers the natives so much - that transplants actually have options which are better than this hell hole with maladjusted natives and their acting out. Grow up already, natives - stop being petulant children: "mine, mine, mine!". You have problems, and it is certainly not the transplants.

Leechers gonna leech.

Many of the really great establishments have been gone for over 20 years and have been replaced by ugly condos and ugly glass towers.
This is what transplants do not understand.
Unless you were here to walk the streets during those times, you truly do not have a true understanding of what existed before and after.
Lots of great places gone.
Demolished.
Gentrified.
Pussified.

Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

Make us.

Oh right, you can't.

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is really more about the changing of American culture and generational issues than it is about "natives" versus "transplants". The changes happening in DC are not unique to DC -- they are happening in every major city in this country. And what generation hasn't regarded the next with a bit of skepticism, reluctance and nostalgia for the way things used to be? But to make this about "natives" versus "transplants" only serves to inflame.

Besides, I'm sure there are at least a few things that natives and transplants can agree on -- like who the hell are these people riding Metro without pants?! And why?? Transplant or native, I think we can collectively agree that none of us want to see bare ass cheeks on our way to work.

That's a transplant thing though.

This entire thread is really more about the changing of American culture and generational issues than it is about "natives" versus "transplants". The changes happening in DC are not unique to DC -- they are happening in every major city in this country. And what generation hasn't regarded the next with a bit of skepticism, reluctance and nostalgia for the way things used to be? But to make this about "natives" versus "transplants" only serves to inflame.

Besides, I'm sure there are at least a few things that natives and transplants can agree on -- like who the hell are these people riding Metro without pants?! And why?? Transplant or native, I think we can collectively agree that none of us want to see bare ass cheeks on our way to work.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

YES!

Oh great. A sock puppet from Texas slagging on DC transplants. Just an FYI, if you are a DC native who no longer lives in DC, you are a transplant yourself. None of us who are here now care if you think we don't fit in. Also, if you are a sock puppet, well, you are a sock puppet and we don't care about either of your opinions.

Right, and I don't walk around with a sense of entitlement regarding my (temporary and recent) new city.

Where are you from Jeff? The "transplant" label seems to have struck a nerve....

I'm from the great state of Illinois. The land of Lincoln and the heart of "flyover" country (unless you have a connection in Chicago in the Winter, in which it is "sit around and wait" country).

I've been in DC for 30 years and have no patience for 30 year old and younger natives giving me shit. On the other hand, I'll put up with it all day from 60 year old and older natives. I also think transplants that use DC slang in an attempt to look cool actually look silly, with the exception of the word "bama" which I have come to appreciate regardless of who uses it.

I think people who didnt grow up in a major city and haven't had to sit back and watch all their beloved local spots, the very culture that formed the city they were raised in, supplanted by a bunch of entitled people who want to scrub away the interesting character of the city, not to mention make life more difficult for many people whose families have lived in the city for generations (and yes, there is a racial element there as well), need to try to be understanding of the emotion they have seen expressed on this board.

To us, DC is not just "a cool city", a "place you go for work", "the nation's capital", or whatever. It is HOME. Where we spent our childhoods and young adulthoods.

And seeing that irrevocably changed, the history scrubbed out and replaced with shiny, happy new chain stores... it's gross.

I appreciate your point, but I have to disagree with your first sentence. Most of the change you are describing occurred in the last 30 years. So, I witnessed them. I can't claim that I have as much understanding as those who spent their childhoods here and have deep family roots and friendship networks, but I too can feel a sense of loss as a result of some -- not all -- of the changes.

I also hate the chain stores, but that is a problem afflicting more than just DC.

Globalization happens. I thought all adults realize this? Wow, just wow.

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants- go back to flyover country where you belong. You will never truly fit in here, whether you like it or not- fact!

YES!

Oh great. A sock puppet from Texas slagging on DC transplants. Just an FYI, if you are a DC native who no longer lives in DC, you are a transplant yourself. None of us who are here now care if you think we don't fit in. Also, if you are a sock puppet, well, you are a sock puppet and we don't care about either of your opinions.

Right, and I don't walk around with a sense of entitlement regarding my (temporary and recent) new city.

Where are you from Jeff? The "transplant" label seems to have struck a nerve....

I'm from the great state of Illinois. The land of Lincoln and the heart of "flyover" country (unless you have a connection in Chicago in the Winter, in which it is "sit around and wait" country).

I've been in DC for 30 years and have no patience for 30 year old and younger natives giving me shit. On the other hand, I'll put up with it all day from 60 year old and older natives. I also think transplants that use DC slang in an attempt to look cool actually look silly, with the exception of the word "bama" which I have come to appreciate regardless of who uses it.

I think people who didnt grow up in a major city and haven't had to sit back and watch all their beloved local spots, the very culture that formed the city they were raised in, supplanted by a bunch of entitled people who want to scrub away the interesting character of the city, not to mention make life more difficult for many people whose families have lived in the city for generations (and yes, there is a racial element there as well), need to try to be understanding of the emotion they have seen expressed on this board.

To us, DC is not just "a cool city", a "place you go for work", "the nation's capital", or whatever. It is HOME. Where we spent our childhoods and young adulthoods.

And seeing that irrevocably changed, the history scrubbed out and replaced with shiny, happy new chain stores... it's gross.

Jesus, you don't think this is happening everywhere? You really do need to get out more. Really.

It's actually not. It's happening in certain major urban centers, not all. And DC is one of them.

And, we have every right to complain about it.

Also, due to the nature of DC's industry, government- it attracts a particularly uninteresting and soul-sucking bunch. I'll take the Portland transplants any day over DC transplants.

You really do need to get out more. Being in D.C. is making you unreasonably hostile. Or haven't you noticed?