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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

uhmm, ok, pps point still stands that childhood cancer is an evolutionary adaption as well. The children who die are serving the "the greater species purpose" as you so eloquently put it.

It may very well be. That doesn't mean that as humans, we abandon our adaptive duty to do all we can for our children when they get sick - that's an evolutionary response, too. People who smoke a pack a day and live till their 90's aren't just "lucky" - for whatever reason, they have some kind of fitness that enables them to still thrive. These things tend to be genetic, and there's some validity to those trends. Obviously doesn't mean everyone should smoke a pack a day, but one can't deny the genetic components that guide all our lives to some extent - or combination of nature vs. nurture.

How is that different from an "adaptive duty" to procreate using IVF? IVF offspring will likely inherit a strong desire to leave offspring - an adaptation if ever there was one. The point is - there is abolutely no logic by you can argue against IVF as somehow working against evolution (as if that were even possible!) while defending treatments that help children survive.

How in the world will IVF cause an adaptation for offspring to abandon offspring??

You're welcome to use the Google to Google thoughts about infertility and possible evolutionary mechanisms. In all species, there are reasons why some can procreate more, and others can't.

Though to be fair, the Duggars are clearly an exception. Ugh.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with the hate for vegans?
I ask because I am one, but doubt that many people know or care.

Here's a post from someone who's a vegan, on Facebook.
The woman is in her 30s, child-hating, and cat-crazy.

"What do you do with a waiter who, after you ordered the only thing on the menu, the vegan dumpligs, being also the ONLY person in a restaurant, serves you PORK dumplings and then after you made one bite and, terrified, asked what it was tells you: "pork". What can you do, besides running to a bathroom and puking your guts out, while screaming and crying in agonizing hysteria, and after an hour of brushing your teeth STILL feeling the taste of dead animal in your mouth?!?
This day turned out to be a complete epitomy of horror, shock, pain, betrayal and vomit for me. I'm off to bed. Please no phone calls today."

I dunno what you do. Shoot the waiter, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

uhmm, ok, pps point still stands that childhood cancer is an evolutionary adaption as well. The children who die are serving the "the greater species purpose" as you so eloquently put it.

It may very well be. That doesn't mean that as humans, we abandon our adaptive duty to do all we can for our children when they get sick - that's an evolutionary response, too. People who smoke a pack a day and live till their 90's aren't just "lucky" - for whatever reason, they have some kind of fitness that enables them to still thrive. These things tend to be genetic, and there's some validity to those trends. Obviously doesn't mean everyone should smoke a pack a day, but one can't deny the genetic components that guide all our lives to some extent - or combination of nature vs. nurture.

How is that different from an "adaptive duty" to procreate using IVF? IVF offspring will likely inherit a strong desire to leave offspring - an adaptation if ever there was one. The point is - there is abolutely no logic by you can argue against IVF as somehow working against evolution (as if that were even possible!) while defending treatments that help children survive.

How in the world will IVF cause an adaptation for offspring to abandon offspring??

You're welcome to use the Google to Google thoughts about infertility and possible evolutionary mechanisms. In all species, there are reasons why some can procreate more, and others can't.

Though to be fair, the Duggars are clearly an exception. Ugh.

Anonymous wrote:Those who insist gay rights=black civil rights and when you disagree, they lash out and start saying racist shit about black people.

Anonymous wrote:What's with the hate for vegans?
I ask because I am one, but doubt that many people know or care.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

uhmm, ok, pps point still stands that childhood cancer is an evolutionary adaption as well. The children who die are serving the "the greater species purpose" as you so eloquently put it.

It may very well be. That doesn't mean that as humans, we abandon our adaptive duty to do all we can for our children when they get sick - that's an evolutionary response, too. People who smoke a pack a day and live till their 90's aren't just "lucky" - for whatever reason, they have some kind of fitness that enables them to still thrive. These things tend to be genetic, and there's some validity to those trends. Obviously doesn't mean everyone should smoke a pack a day, but one can't deny the genetic components that guide all our lives to some extent - or combination of nature vs. nurture.

How is that different from an "adaptive duty" to procreate using IVF? IVF offspring will likely inherit a strong desire to leave offspring - an adaptation if ever there was one. The point is - there is abolutely no logic by you can argue against IVF as somehow working against evolution (as if that were even possible!) while defending treatments that help children survive.

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Anonymous wrote:Pooping at work. I know sometimes you have to go, but I'd rather you pucker up until you get home.

Yeah, save that shit for later.

DH saves it for work. Where else can you get paid to take a shit?

I think a lady on Cheapskates poops at work so she can save on water and toilet paper.

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Anonymous wrote:I oppose Gay Marriage.

I LOVE that marriage equality has become so accepted that you don't want others to know how you truly feel!

Me too, as a lesbian I love to hear that I'm finally going to maybe possibly be treated as a human.

Oh, stop with the pity party. It's annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

uhmm, ok, pps point still stands that childhood cancer is an evolutionary adaption as well. The children who die are serving the "the greater species purpose" as you so eloquently put it.

It may very well be. That doesn't mean that as humans, we abandon our adaptive duty to do all we can for our children when they get sick - that's an evolutionary response, too. People who smoke a pack a day and live till their 90's aren't just "lucky" - for whatever reason, they have some kind of fitness that enables them to still thrive. These things tend to be genetic, and there's some validity to those trends. Obviously doesn't mean everyone should smoke a pack a day, but one can't deny the genetic components that guide all our lives to some extent - or combination of nature vs. nurture.

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Anonymous wrote:I oppose Gay Marriage.

I LOVE that marriage equality has become so accepted that you don't want others to know how you truly feel!

Me too, as a lesbian I love to hear that I'm finally going to maybe possibly be treated as a human.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't take when parents with kids in daycare or with a nanny say "they really do love my child". Umm, no they don't. They most likely enjoy your child and care for him / her but if they were not paid to watch your child they simply would not do so. It isn't love that keeps a non-parent caregiver from doing their job.

I used to be a nanny and I truly, truly loved my charges. Adored them and cried when I had to move away and leave them. You are making a universal statement. This may be true of some but it certainly is not true of all.

Agreed.

I am a nanny and I truly do love my charges, like for real.

If you don't think people can love children they aren't related to, than maybe you have your own set of issues.