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Well not exactly. The girlfriend has reported what she heard on the phone. Since she actually overheard some of the exchange between the two, it is not just hearsay. And her statement contradicts Zimmerman's on a really key point, namely that Zimmerman was not walking back to his car when the physical confrontation began.

It is precisely the definition of hearsay.

Anonymous wrote:Lets wait for the toxicology report, maybe Zimmerman on the 911 call was right that martin was acting funny on drugs

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well not exactly. The girlfriend has reported what she heard on the phone. Since she actually overheard some of the exchange between the two, it is not just hearsay. And her statement contradicts Zimmerman's on a really key point, namely that Zimmerman was not walking back to his car when the physical confrontation began.

How is that not hearsay?

It's not hearsay because she heard it directly. It would be hearsay if she's repeating what T told her Z said - but she didn't hear it first hand. Because she heard it first hand, it's not hearsay.

This is incorrect. It is hearsay because she heard it third person. She was not physically there, she did not say it and it was not said to her. She is repeating what she heard over a cell phone with no way to corroborate whether it was being said to her or said to a person she could not see.

Mirriam-Webster Dictionary wrote:hearsay evidence noun.
evidence based not on a witness's personal knowledge but on another's statement not made under oath

Otherwise, anything that you viewed on a video or television that you watched with your own eyes would be admissible. You had to actually have been there and witnessed it. By virtue of it being heard over a cell phone, it is hearsay.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well, unfortunately, I'm guessing 90% of the robberies in that neighborhood were committed by black teens wearing hoodies. that is the unfortunate reality. so while it means nothing with respect to guilt or innocence, it was not totally unreasonable for Z to think the victim was up to no good. Right?

I can't believe what I just read. From what you are saying it follows that a straight A student with perfect behavior, high SES family, wearing a hoodie while black walking though a nice neighborhood, can reasonably be assumed to be up to no good and shot to death. I just wish that people who think like this can be more easily identified as i would not want to have any kind of friendship with such people.

My 10 year old daughter said to me "is it okay for someone to shoot a kid and say he felt threatened by the kid because he was black and wearing a hoodie? Does hat mean that black kids cannot wear hoodies? Even I know that is wrong and if the police did not arrest the man or investigate then they didn't do their job"
From the mouth of babes.

Is that what you taught your child to ask? Or if his twitter name should be "no limit n****"?Is your child also asking you if it's ok to get suspended from school for possession of stolen jewelry?

Don't be so sensational. Just teach your kids to be good people

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well not exactly. The girlfriend has reported what she heard on the phone. Since she actually overheard some of the exchange between the two, it is not just hearsay. And her statement contradicts Zimmerman's on a really key point, namely that Zimmerman was not walking back to his car when the physical confrontation began.

How is that not hearsay?

It's not hearsay because she heard it directly. It would be hearsay if she's repeating what T told her Z said - but she didn't hear it first hand. Because she heard it first hand, it's not hearsay.

Mirriam-Webster Dictionary wrote:hearsay evidence noun.
evidence based not on a witness's personal knowledge but on another's statement not made under oath

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well not exactly. The girlfriend has reported what she heard on the phone. Since she actually overheard some of the exchange between the two, it is not just hearsay. And her statement contradicts Zimmerman's on a really key point, namely that Zimmerman was not walking back to his car when the physical confrontation began.

How is that not hearsay?

It's not hearsay because she heard it directly. It would be hearsay if she's repeating what T told her Z said - but she didn't hear it first hand. Because she heard it first hand, it's not hearsay.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well, unfortunately, I'm guessing 90% of the robberies in that neighborhood were committed by black teens wearing hoodies. that is the unfortunate reality. so while it means nothing with respect to guilt or innocence, it was not totally unreasonable for Z to think the victim was up to no good. Right?

I can't believe what I just read. From what you are saying it follows that a straight A student with perfect behavior, high SES family, wearing a hoodie while black walking though a nice neighborhood, can reasonably be assumed to be up to no good and shot to death. I just wish that people who think like this can be more easily identified as i would not want to have any kind of friendship with such people.

My 10 year old daughter said to me "is it okay for someone to shoot a kid and say he felt threatened by the kid because he was black and wearing a hoodie? Does hat mean that black kids cannot wear hoodies? Even I know that is wrong and if the police did not arrest the man or investigate then they didn't do their job"
From the mouth of babes.

Anonymous wrote:

Well not exactly. The girlfriend has reported what she heard on the phone. Since she actually overheard some of the exchange between the two, it is not just hearsay. And her statement contradicts Zimmerman's on a really key point, namely that Zimmerman was not walking back to his car when the physical confrontation began.

How is that not hearsay?

I can't believe what I just read. From what you are saying it follows that a straight A student with perfect behavior, high SES family, wearing a hoodie while black walking though a nice neighborhood, can reasonably be assumed to be up to no good and shot to death.

Anonymous wrote:well, unfortunately, I'm guessing 90% of the robberies in that neighborhood were committed by black teens wearing hoodies. that is the unfortunate reality. so while it means nothing with respect to guilt or innocence, it was not totally unreasonable for Z to think the victim was up to no good. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:

Zimmerman and anyone else involved should be afraid. Bounty on Zimmerman by the New Black Panthers and Spike Lee tweeting the address in Florida.

I googled that address and it is another area-not that development....obvious from google street view and the map. Do enough checking and you see there are other Zimmermans and other Tracy Martins.

So we now have news media and possibly vigilantes going to a house of an uninvolved person.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/mar/27/picket-spike-lee-re-tweets-incorrect-address-trayv/

The NY Times calling Zimmerman a white hispanic ...is that just to make this more virulent?

My kids are hispanic. They are also white. Maybe that incendiary or maybe it's just factual.

Well not exactly. The girlfriend has reported what she heard on the phone. Since she actually overheard some of the exchange between the two, it is not just hearsay. And her statement contradicts Zimmerman's on a really key point, namely that Zimmerman was not walking back to his car when the physical confrontation began.