Anonymous wrote:The fact that several UK uni dorms serve alcohol is a surprise to many uptight American parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

Lol. It'd change nothing. You think kids don't touch alcohol until they're 21?

I was drinking and partying at 18. Elite university.

There is a clear difference between underage drinking which all of us have experienced, and flat out legal drinking with dorms serving alcohol….

Correct. Much better adjusted behavior in lower risk environments without breaking the law.

At the same time, the trend away from youth drinking is just as strong in the UK as it is in the US.

I have a kid at St Andrews. While the environment is lower risk, I wouldn’t necessarily say the behavior is better adjusted. There is a lot of heavy drinking!!

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Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

Lol. It'd change nothing. You think kids don't touch alcohol until they're 21?

I was drinking and partying at 18. Elite university.

There is a clear difference between underage drinking which all of us have experienced, and flat out legal drinking with dorms serving alcohol….

Correct. Much better adjusted behavior in lower risk environments without breaking the law.

At the same time, the trend away from youth drinking is just as strong in the UK as it is in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

Lol. It'd change nothing. You think kids don't touch alcohol until they're 21?

I was drinking and partying at 18. Elite university.

There is a clear difference between underage drinking which all of us have experienced, and flat out legal drinking with dorms serving alcohol….

Correct. Much better adjusted behavior in lower risk environments without breaking the law.

At the same time, the trend away from youth drinking is just as strong in the UK as it is in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

Lol. It'd change nothing. You think kids don't touch alcohol until they're 21?

I was drinking and partying at 18. Elite university.

There is a clear difference between underage drinking which all of us have experienced, and flat out legal drinking with dorms serving alcohol….

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Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

Lol. It'd change nothing. You think kids don't touch alcohol until they're 21?

I was drinking and partying at 18. Elite university.

There is a clear difference between underage drinking which all of us have experienced, and flat out legal drinking with dorms serving alcohol….

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Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

Lol. It'd change nothing. You think kids don't touch alcohol until they're 21?

I was drinking and partying at 18. Elite university.

Anonymous wrote:I cant even imagine how US unis would be if drinking was legal at 18…..My guess is that the % of kids graduating in 4 years would decrease substantially….

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Anonymous wrote:Expect extremely heavy drinking culture in the UK, more so than on our college campuses.

That is true. My kid is at Oxford for grad work and says the drinking is like nothing he saw at his state flagship

Anonymous wrote:Everything is high in the UK. Food is significantly more.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve lived in the uk for ten years and DD is just finishing up A level exams. I would have loved for her to study at a university here, but it was just going to be too much money. It was going to be about £45k/year. That’s in pounds so figure $60k/year? Good luck getting a good rate. And that’s not even with room/board.

She got a full tuition FA scholarship to a T20 in the states and will go there. We have a HHI just under 200k. (But she’s also got a merit scholarship for even more at a school in the top 40 and one in the top 70.)

The 45,000 GBP/year is only at a very few UK universities (Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, etc.). There are several excellent universities - eg., Durham - that cost considerably less than that for tuition and fees, especiall for humanities/social sciences.

Yep, people here only look at the most expensive courses at Oxbridge/Imperial.
Durham for 3 years at any humanities course is a steal when compared to 4 years at any Out of State of Private US uni.
Scottish unis are 4 years, but still relatively cheaper than us Unis if you are comparing Out of State unis and Private unis with no merit.

Durham is $61k pound for tuition, room and board. The Cost of Attendance (COA) at Durham University varies significantly based on fee status. For UK ("Home") undergraduate students, tuition fees are £9,790 per year. For international (Overseas) students, tuition ranges from £28,500 to £41,000 annually, with living expenses adding roughly £15,000 to £20,000.

The 61k GBP is only for a limited number of courses with a high end living expense amount. Many courses are 28.5k GBP which, when combined with 15k GBP for living costs, amounts to 43.5k GBP. Multiply that by 3 years and you get 130.5k total, which is roughly $174, 000. That's a LOT cheaper than highly rated U.S. privates, many of which are nearing $400k for all 4 years. [/quote]


But still more than in-state public. And still more than two years at community college, followed by two years in-state public. Check your figures - UK is now a lot more expensive than it was for Americans just a few years ago because of a flood of applicants trying to escape the American system.