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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Currently VA United is in 10th place in RL. They are ranked 1441. Alexandria is 590. Agreed the ranking app is not “perfect” but that is a big gap.

When your DD joined her GA team, did she think she’d be playing teams just inside the top 600? Two teams from NC are outside the top 900. Loudoun outside top 1000. TSJ outside top 3000. McLean is inside top 500. That’s half the conference. Is half of GA this bad or is this conference an outlier?

That is a different question. The original statement was “Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL.”

I’m unsure if any parent/player who joined a 2013 GA team had expectations of the rankings of their opponents. I do know based on scores that GA as a league is much stronger than RL. Are there good RL teams? Yes! Are there good RL players? Yes.

I guess I didn’t realize how bad RL is, so apologies for the inaccurate comparison. My point remains that GA, at least in this area, is a low quality league. I don’t understand why parents travel to Charlotte so DDs can play teams outside the top 1000 or why players who are good enough to play ECNL (and there are several at both NVA and SYC and probably more scattered around the other GA teams) would remain in GA given the level of play.

If your ‘13 DD is on an RL team and you feel she is plenty good enough to compete and succeed at the GA level, it probably makes sense to hit up as many ECNL/GA practices and tryouts as you can and find the best fit. Once your DD hits HS, many of those RL teams train for about 3-4 months a year, do limited training through the winter months and take the HS season off.

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Currently VA United is in 10th place in RL. They are ranked 1441. Alexandria is 590. Agreed the ranking app is not “perfect” but that is a big gap.

When your DD joined her GA team, did she think she’d be playing teams just inside the top 600? Two teams from NC are outside the top 900. Loudoun outside top 1000. TSJ outside top 3000. McLean is inside top 500. That’s half the conference. Is half of GA this bad or is this conference an outlier?

That is a different question. The original statement was “Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL.”

I’m unsure if any parent/player who joined a 2013 GA team had expectations of the rankings of their opponents. I do know based on scores that GA as a league is much stronger than RL. Are there good RL teams? Yes! Are there good RL players? Yes.

The ratings app is crack for data junkies (so long as you ignore that you are talking about kids sports). Strength of schedule is my favorite as I value clubs playing strong teams that helps development more than beating up on lower rank teams

No dog in this hunt, but Using 2012’s is probably a better view of the relative club strengths at 11v11 (pre-highschool to avoid stale data from teams not playing yet in the fall) the majority of GA teams are top 500. TSJ is 885 one of the lower ga teams. McLean and Loudon are in the 400’s

2013’s is the first real year of 11v11 and 18+ rosters so not surprising to see more variance… especially with talent dilution in nova at the early ages. loudon are defiantly an outlier…there’s only 5 other ga’s in the country that low, Florida united, Seattle reign, space coast and afc lightening near that >1200 ranking . Pretty statistically significant

Loudon’s strength of schedule is way down at 869, vs Florida united playing a killer 171 schedule and space coast at 269, though both taking a lot of losses which must be getting old.

Haven’t seen any of these teams but fun to see the story the data tells … put this in front of a LLM with the correlated Veo uploads, player number detection and you could have some real fun taking on mls quality of play metrics and normalizing for players missing games and guest players

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Currently VA United is in 10th place in RL. They are ranked 1441. Alexandria is 590. Agreed the ranking app is not “perfect” but that is a big gap.

When your DD joined her GA team, did she think she’d be playing teams just inside the top 600? Two teams from NC are outside the top 900. Loudoun outside top 1000. TSJ outside top 3000. McLean is inside top 500. That’s half the conference. Is half of GA this bad or is this conference an outlier?

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Always love the parent that thinks they have more knowledge than a mathematical algorithm that predicts the outcome of most games within a goal or two.

That Soccer App system has been fine tuned for almost over ten years now, but DCUM dad is THE youth soccer guru, lol.

Rankings don’t update instantly. Much of the team rankings, especially for the younger teams, is historical data and not fully relevant. It takes time for newly formed teams to shake out.

Wrong. The app did only use the past year of results. The owner actually just changed it last week to include only the last 6 months from the last game played.

Also, it updates every day except Wednesday and Thursday since I have been watching.

As others have said, it’s very accurate for what it is. If there was an NBA, NHL, etc, Bookies would want to kill it. Imagine an app that could predict the line of Pro and College at even a 60% rate.

It’s pretty amazing statistically, especially the top 500 teams or so. I don’t know how accurate boys’ side is guessing similar.

Where it gets out of wack is when you get a team predicted to win by 4 or more goals, that usually ends up being 6 or more win.

Wrong, it was changed to last 20 games over up to last 12 months, which for most teams means last 20 games.

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Always love the parent that thinks they have more knowledge than a mathematical algorithm that predicts the outcome of most games within a goal or two.

That Soccer App system has been fine tuned for almost over ten years now, but DCUM dad is THE youth soccer guru, lol.

Rankings don’t update instantly. Much of the team rankings, especially for the younger teams, is historical data and not fully relevant. It takes time for newly formed teams to shake out.

Wrong. The app did only use the past year of results. The owner actually just changed it last week to include only the last 6 months from the last game played.

Also, it updates every day except Wednesday and Thursday since I have been watching.

As others have said, it’s very accurate for what it is. If there was an NBA, NHL, etc, Bookies would want to kill it. Imagine an app that could predict the line of Pro and College at even a 60% rate.

It’s pretty amazing statistically, especially the top 500 teams or so. I don’t know how accurate boys’ side is guessing similar.

Where it gets out of wack is when you get a team predicted to win by 4 or more goals, that usually ends up being 6 or more win.

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Anonymous wrote:Will NVA and SYC still be good options for GA next year?

Which age group?

Rising U13, for this upcoming year.

Anonymous wrote:Schedule for the showcase is out. How's it look to everyone?

where? please provide link

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Currently VA United is in 10th place in RL. They are ranked 1441. Alexandria is 590. Agreed the ranking app is not “perfect” but that is a big gap.

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Have you seen all 19 RL teams play?

That LOU team was the RL team just last year.

Schedule for the showcase is out. How's it look to everyone?

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Have you seen all 19 RL teams play?

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Always love the parent that thinks they have more knowledge than a mathematical algorithm that predicts the outcome of most games within a goal or two.

That Soccer App system has been fine tuned for almost over ten years now, but DCUM dad is THE youth soccer guru, lol.

I have been using that app for almost 2 years now and I have to say, it is about 80% accurate. But also, it does take some time to get the predictions dialed in when the team is new.

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Always love the parent that thinks they have more knowledge than a mathematical algorithm that predicts the outcome of most games within a goal or two.

That Soccer App system has been fine tuned for almost over ten years now, but DCUM dad is THE youth soccer guru, lol.

Rankings don’t update instantly. Much of the team rankings, especially for the younger teams, is historical data and not fully relevant. It takes time for newly formed teams to shake out.