Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 09:14     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?


Logic fail. Where does it say anything about that? Of course we should. But it still doesn't change overall crime stats.

Look, nobody is arguing against deporting violent criminals. The problem is that most of them aren't. We need farm workers, construction workers and so on. We need a visa program that will let them come and work, provided they don't commit any crimes. Why is that so damn hard for Republicans to comprehend?
We have many visa programs, including for agricultural work. We also hand out a million green cards a year, plus more than that come as automatic issued green cards for family chain migration.
No need for more to come illegally. The ones who came here illegally already should be deported.


If there are more than enough visas as you claim, then why are businesses still hiring illegal workers? There is CLEARLY still an unfilled and unfillable labor demand that illegal labor is filling. That means there are NOT enough visas. How about just accepting reality, that you are wrong about visas?
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 08:32     Subject: Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Perhaps Trump will send the low hanging fruit to war like Putin did with prisoners.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 08:09     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?


Logic fail. Where does it say anything about that? Of course we should. But it still doesn't change overall crime stats.

Look, nobody is arguing against deporting violent criminals. The problem is that most of them aren't. We need farm workers, construction workers and so on. We need a visa program that will let them come and work, provided they don't commit any crimes. Why is that so damn hard for Republicans to comprehend?
We have many visa programs, including for agricultural work. We also hand out a million green cards a year, plus more than that come as automatic issued green cards for family chain migration.
No need for more to come illegally. The ones who came here illegally already should be deported.


Seeking asylum or being granted TPS status is not illegal. Why is that hard to understand?
In April, 80% of asylum cases heard were denied.
There are fake asylum seekers, many of whom do not even show for their court cases.
TPS is temporary, and was never intended to be used on such a large scale.


That was happening under Biden too. The problem has always been with the backlog and inadequate resources for hearing and adjudicating those cases. Even Obama requested more resources so that the 80% who did not meed asylum criteria could be sent back more quickly. Republicans refused.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 06:23     Subject: Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is why isn’t the government going after major businesses that employ undocumented immigrants?


Because the truth is that the Trumpers like to use immigration as a wedge issue to keep the troglodytes focused on their cultural grievances.


MAGA decided that starting WWIII was better than having 7 trans athletes in the NCAA, which would never affect them in any way. These are not sophisticated people.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 00:09     Subject: Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is why isn’t the government going after major businesses that employ undocumented immigrants?


Because the truth is that the Trumpers like to use immigration as a wedge issue to keep the troglodytes focused on their cultural grievances.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 23:24     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?


Logic fail. Where does it say anything about that? Of course we should. But it still doesn't change overall crime stats.

Look, nobody is arguing against deporting violent criminals. The problem is that most of them aren't. We need farm workers, construction workers and so on. We need a visa program that will let them come and work, provided they don't commit any crimes. Why is that so damn hard for Republicans to comprehend?
We have many visa programs, including for agricultural work. We also hand out a million green cards a year, plus more than that come as automatic issued green cards for family chain migration.
No need for more to come illegally. The ones who came here illegally already should be deported.


Seeking asylum or being granted TPS status is not illegal. Why is that hard to understand?
In April, 80% of asylum cases heard were denied.
There are fake asylum seekers, many of whom do not even show for their court cases.
TPS is temporary, and was never intended to be used on such a large scale.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 22:53     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?


Logic fail. Where does it say anything about that? Of course we should. But it still doesn't change overall crime stats.

Look, nobody is arguing against deporting violent criminals. The problem is that most of them aren't. We need farm workers, construction workers and so on. We need a visa program that will let them come and work, provided they don't commit any crimes. Why is that so damn hard for Republicans to comprehend?
We have many visa programs, including for agricultural work. We also hand out a million green cards a year, plus more than that come as automatic issued green cards for family chain migration.
No need for more to come illegally. The ones who came here illegally already should be deported.


Seeking asylum or being granted TPS status is not illegal. Why is that hard to understand?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 22:53     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


DP- I would add that the Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that simply being in the country in and of itself was a not a crime.
Many of them are in felony violation of the law that was passed in the 1940s requiring registration with the federal government.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 22:52     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?


Logic fail. Where does it say anything about that? Of course we should. But it still doesn't change overall crime stats.

Look, nobody is arguing against deporting violent criminals. The problem is that most of them aren't. We need farm workers, construction workers and so on. We need a visa program that will let them come and work, provided they don't commit any crimes. Why is that so damn hard for Republicans to comprehend?
We have many visa programs, including for agricultural work. We also hand out a million green cards a year, plus more than that come as automatic issued green cards for family chain migration.
No need for more to come illegally. The ones who came here illegally already should be deported.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 20:14     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?


Logic fail. Where does it say anything about that? Of course we should. But it still doesn't change overall crime stats.

Look, nobody is arguing against deporting violent criminals. The problem is that most of them aren't. We need farm workers, construction workers and so on. We need a visa program that will let them come and work, provided they don't commit any crimes. Why is that so damn hard for Republicans to comprehend?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 20:03     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?


So if an illegal alien murders someone and they serve their sentence, you believe they shouldn’t be deported?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 19:52     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


That's consistent with the general population - FBI interstate index shows that around 70% of US citizens have no prior conviction and 8% of US citizens have a felony record.

As such, deporting illegals really doesn't change overall crime or risk stats. But again, we demonize and smear them and depict them as a national risk and as dangerous criminals even though the data shows they're really no worse than US citizens. Why?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 18:05     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


DP- I would add that the Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that simply being in the country in and of itself was a not a crime.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2025 17:31     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?


That’s not what the data shows. It shows that about 35% have a prior conviction and that 7% have a conviction for a violent offense. PP implied that those 35% don’t pose a risk to the public because their convictions are nonviolent. My point is simply that a nonviolent offense isn’t necessarily trivial.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions
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Post 06/21/2025 16:17     Subject: Re:Why is ICE only going after the low-hanging fruit?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly "low hanging fruit."
And this ICE agent is yet another victim of Biden's border crisis.



This “Bellevue man” is a known Tren de Aragua terrorist who violently attacked federal law enforcement.

During the attack, the illegal alien threw an ICE agent to the ground, slammed her head into the pavement, ripped off her body armor, and made repeated and physical violent contact. The agent sustained serious injuries to her head and arm.

Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco  entered the U.S. illegally in 2023—and Border Patrol removed him. In 2024—under the Biden administration—he re-entered the U.S. illegally and was released into the country with a notice to appear.

The Department of Justice has charged Gabriel Hurtado-Cariaco with attempted murder of a federal officer and assault of a federal officer with infliction of bodily injury.


Science is not built upon anecdotes .
An independent study just found that 90% of their detainees have never committed a violent crime.

So yeah, this is being implemented SO inefficiently that there are thousands of better ways to spend my tax dollars.


The violent/nonviolent distinction is meaningless. Identity theft, distribution of fentanyl, possession of child pornography, and possessing a handgun after a felony conviction are all nonviolent crimes. Do you think those types of criminals shouldn’t be deported?


DP... Studies and FOIAs of ICE's own data show that apart from crossing the border, more than 90% of them didn't commit any kind of crime whatsoever. No criminal history, no prior convictions, nothing.

Why are you trying to falsely smear them with being distributors of fentanyl, child porn et cetera when there's no evidence that most of them have any kind of history doing that?
Because the poster you are responding to is obviously prejudiced.