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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

He is arguably brilliant though. Do you not see the problem here?

Knowing Gunn well (the hs he attended in Palo Alto), this person is probably not brilliant. There are brilliant kids there though, which probably does hurt in terms of recommendations and EC leadership opportunities.
He is probably great at coding and algorithms though. That is the key differentiator between L3/4 at Google.

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

He is arguably brilliant though. Do you not see the problem here?

What problem? That he's brilliant and he along with thousand of other brilliant/highly qualified students applied to programs that only accept 2-3% of applicants. Then he and majority of those applicants (let's say 95%+) got rejected as well. There's a reason it is damn near impossible for anyone to gain admissions to the 18 CS programs he applied to---and it's because majority who apply are all really smart, really motivated, have really excellent ECs/started their own company coding/etc. They are not taking kids who got 1200 and a 3.5 gpa into the CS programs. It simply is not happening at those schools.

Have you met those kids admitted to these programs? They are also brilliant. Who knows ultimately how the AO make a decision, but we do know that after GPA (and he's NOT in the top of his HS class---part of the problem with attending an elite HS, everyone is elite) it comes down to essays, teacher recommendations, and your ECs. We haven't read his essays or recommendations. Haven;'t read those for the other applications, but with such fine differences, it is truly possible that he didn't sell himself enough with the essays or his teachers didn't rave about him as much as other recommenders did.
The problem is he applied to 18 extremely selective schools, got into 2 and is complaining that he didn't get into more.

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

He is arguably brilliant though. Do you not see the problem here?

Being “brilliant” doesn’t entitle anyone to an acceptance. Stats, ECs, essays, and recommendations are all part of the evaluation. And he’s one of many, many other brilliant kids fighting for the same tiny number of seats.

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

yea just repeat the same junk excuse again and again to hide the crime.

What crime?

His dad is a google engender. I know another software engineer who started teaching his daughters CS from early age and both got jobs as software engineers out of high school.

When you all get hold of his essays and recommendations, update the thread. Otherwise, this conversation isn’t going anywhere.

Arguably the 47th smartest kid in his high school

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

He is arguably brilliant though. Do you not see the problem here?

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

yea just repeat the same junk excuse again and again to hide the crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

UCs do NOT use SAT/ACT scores. So basically it's gpa (he was only 45-50th in his class), ECs, essays and recommendations. Oh, and the acceptance rates at those schools for CS are single digits, even 2-3% for all except UC Davis (it's ~9-10%).

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

Because (1) the schools get tons of applicants who are qualified and (2) over qualified applicants don’t exist. It’s not a race to the top.

+1000

When acceptance rates are less than 5%, 95%+ are rejected and majority are highly qualified.

Don't want that to happen, do not apply for CS at schools with single digit acceptance rates

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

Because for every 2-5 spots available they are turning down 95-98 also highly/overqualified students. Simple math. For someone "so smart" they don't seem to understand simple math.

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

Isn't that school 60% Asian? You are going to try to compare him to everyone else in his class except the other Asians???

60% Asians means 40% non-Asians. That’s still a lot of people to compare to, isn’t it? We’ll see if it’s really race blind like UC claimed.

45.7% Asian
30.6% White
11.7% Hispanic
10.0% Two or More Races
1.4% Black
0.4% Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander
0.1% American Indian/Alaska Native

Good luck

+1 let's compare him to the 4 black kids and 60 Hispanic kids in his class because that is what you want to believe that he got passed over by a URM. And how many of those kids applied as a CS major? What data will they use, GPA? No class rank or SAT scores for UCs

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Anonymous wrote:Article in people about stanley

https://people.com/high-school-graduate-rejected-over-dozen-colleges-lands-jobs-at-google-8364398

Penalty for being Asian american?

Even Stanley‘s father acknowledges that there’s not enough facts to determine racism. In the article he claims that universities are turning down over qualified students, and he wants to know why.

DP, but of course he wouldn’t claim it publicly without concrete evidence (yet). But it’s more than likely the case.

The only evidence that would support their claim is if a college used racial quotas-- otherwise, they would have to prove that Stanley was singled out amongst his Asian peers at his high school.

It’s not that hard to do. Just compare a student from the same high school but of a different race. If that student got into a UC but with less impressive credentials(whatever UC defines), we’ll have a conversation of racial discrimination.

Isn't that school 60% Asian? You are going to try to compare him to everyone else in his class except the other Asians???

60% Asians means 40% non-Asians. That’s still a lot of people to compare to, isn’t it? We’ll see if it’s really race blind like UC claimed.

45.7% Asian
30.6% White
11.7% Hispanic
10.0% Two or More Races
1.4% Black
0.4% Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander
0.1% American Indian/Alaska Native

Good luck

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Anonymous wrote:Al Gore
George Bush
Bill Clinton

Harvard
Yale
Georgetown

All with super low SAT scores. I can't quite figure out how they managed to get in... maybe the letters of recommendation?

That’s two presidents of the United States and one vice president. Are you suggesting they made a mistake letting them in? Or that they shouldn’t have? And the given the slot to somebody with a higher SAT score instead?

If that’s what you think that you don’t get elite college admissions at all and probably never will.

They (especially Bush) were presidents because they got the connections , not because they were outstanding. Same to their college admissions. Wake up!