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Anonymous wrote:The driver can’t refute her story because her story is that this is what Ornato told her. The driver wasn’t in Ornato’s office when he told her. If it happened, Ornato and Engle aren’t going to admit it because they will protect Trump. There is no doubt that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol and was pissed when told he couldn’t. We know that because Trump said so when he got back to the White House. McEnany corroborated that he was mad and still wanted to go to the Capitol. If your only dispute with Hutchinson’s testimony is whether Trump could reach the steering wheel, that’s an irrelevant detail that may have been exaggerated by Engle telling Ornato or by Ornato telling Hutchinson. You still have Trump reaching for the driver, Engle grabbing Trump’s arm, and Trump grabbing Engle. Hutchinson didn’t make all that up. It’s the story she was told.

Oh boy. I thought Engle was the driver. No? Then the driver can’t refute that Ornato told her that story, but he could certainly have already corroborated that Trump lunged at the wheel. He could certainly corroborate that someone’s clavicle was endangered.

Oh I thought Engel was in the car? Anyway. Doesn’t really matter. Obviously they were shook by whatever happened and told her something.

I think Engel was in the car but was not the driver. Maybe in the front passenger seat.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

You are part of a small website on the net. You don’t represent the majority of the country which does not care. They are a much bigger voting bloc.

Keep inflating your self importance if it makes you feel better.

Awww, somebody’s worried.

I’d be too if I were you. Traitor.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

You are part of a small website on the net. You don’t represent the majority of the country which does not care. They are a much bigger voting bloc.

Keep inflating your self importance if it makes you feel better.

DP. At the end of the day, the most important audience is the jury that’s going to decide who is spending the rest of their lives in jail. So console yourself with ratings while you can. Tick tock.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

You are part of a small website on the net. You don’t represent the majority of the country which does not care. They are a much bigger voting bloc.

Keep inflating your self importance if it makes you feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I just read the transcript from yesterday and it was very damning for Trump. I don’t see how his supporters and Republicans can ignore this.

We don’t believe her testimony one bit. She has proven to have been lying and sharing hearsay. She is not a credible witness. She is well rehearsed and well polished but nothing but a BS artist.

Haha. Ok—one who worked two steps down from your hero. She is very credible. Her testimony was extremely compelling and will be corroborated—just wait and see.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I just read the transcript from yesterday and it was very damning for Trump. I don’t see how his supporters and Republicans can ignore this.

We don’t believe her testimony one bit. She has proven to have been lying and sharing hearsay. She is not a credible witness. She is well rehearsed and well polished but nothing but a BS artist.

I don’t know who “we” is supposed to be but everyone in my Republican congressional office believes her and is more than a little concerned.

+1. Colorado believed her.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I just read the transcript from yesterday and it was very damning for Trump. I don’t see how his supporters and Republicans can ignore this.

We don’t believe her testimony one bit. She has proven to have been lying and sharing hearsay. She is not a credible witness. She is well rehearsed and well polished but nothing but a BS artist.

I don’t know who “we” is supposed to be but everyone in my Republican congressional office believes her and is more than a little concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I just read the transcript from yesterday and it was very damning for Trump. I don’t see how his supporters and Republicans can ignore this.

We don’t believe her testimony one bit. She has proven to have been lying and sharing hearsay. She is not a credible witness. She is well rehearsed and well polished but nothing but a BS artist.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

I watched in online. CSPAN, and the Post website.

People are definitely watching .

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

You guys are missing the point of this posters link and comment (thank you 6:02) I’ll add— in addition to mounting evidence, it’s clear that an inside job was at work well before Jan 6.

From the above linked article:
Tim Giebels, Pence’s lead special agent in charge of his protective detail advised him of the plan to keep him away from the Capitol. Keith Kellogg, Pence’s national security adviser, confirmed that was the plan.

Pence: “I’m not getting in the car, Tim. I trust you, Tim, but you’re not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I’m not getting in the car.”

Tony Ornato, who oversaw Secret Service movements and was allgedly operating as Trump’s special political advisor, told Kellog they were planning to move the vice president to Joint Base Andrews.

Kellog: “You can’t do that, Tony. Leave him where he’s at. He’s got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You’ll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don’t do it. He’s going to stay there. If he has to wait there all night, he’s going to do it.” Tony Ornato denies this conversation happened.

Very important to note: Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), was president pro tempore on January 6, 2021, meaning he can/would take on Pences’s duty. On January 5th, Grassley said that he would preside over the Senate’s Jan. 6 session because he didn’t expect Pence to be there. How could he possibly know that Pence wouldn’t be there?

[/b]Ornato also denies that he told Hutchinson about Trump’s physical altercation with Bobby Engel. [b]Roll the tape: After Trump’s speech at the Ellipse. Hutchinson testifies that she went back to the Chief of Staff’s office. Ornato was in the hall and waved Hutchinson into his office directly across from her office. Bobby Engel was in Ornato’s office.

Hutchinson states under oath that Ornato asked her: “Did you hear what fking happened in the beast (SUV)” and proceeded to tell her.
Trump screaming: “I’m the fcking president. Take me up to the Capitol now.” He reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Engel grabbed Trump’s arm and said: “Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. We’re going back to the West Wing.” Trump then lunged at Engel.

Remember, Bobby Engel was there, while Ornato recounted the beast details. Engel did not confirm or deny. He also previously testified to the committee a watered down version of a disagreement between himself and Trump when they rerouted back to West Wing.

There’s so much more speculation and evidence of insider crimes. The list of pardon requests ironically had to go through Hutchinson lol. She provided a partial list in her testimony. Don’t sleep on Cassidy folks. Maybe they hired her for her pretty face, but she’s their ticket to hell.

18 U.S. Code § 2383
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

1) then they should all testify under oath. At the moment, one person has testified as to what another person said. Unless of until someone else testifies under oath to take exception, there is zero validity as to what someone reports via twitter
2) this is distracting from the more damning parts of the testimony, that there was foreknowledge of the violence that was to take place, that Trump was upset that his supporters who were brandishing weapons at the ellipse were being scanned for weapons, etc.

She already gave her sworn testimony under penalty of perjury. Until the "unnamed source" comes forward and testifies under oath, anything contradicting her existing sworn testimony is nothing but unsubstantiated rumor and has zero relevance to anything.

I am confident that an avalanche of witnesses is contacting the Committee today to offer to testify and refute her testimony under oath.
They will offer to be available right after Ginni Thomas.

LMFAO!

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.