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Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong. For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.

No the ivies don’t. They aren’t allowed. Stop spreading a myth.

^ This is wrong from personnel experience. Preferred to be sure.

The myth seems to be that the coaches at high academic schools are focused on high academics when recruiting players....

You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Ivies interested in your kid will ask to see her transcript before 9/1. If it is not all As (or close to it) with a challenging course load they will pass on her (unless she is at the very top of their list, a top 50 player, where they may be able to use a specific exemption). Even then she still has to show that she is academically competitive. Coaches do not want to put a commit in a situation where it will be an uphill climb getting through the admissions process. That only puts the player at risk of not being accepted in the middle of their senior year. It also drops a coach’s commit admissions percentage which is something they take seriously (and is a good q to ask during the recruitment process). No ivy coach will guarantee acceptance when a player commits, and a player only puts herself at risk if she commits to a school that is out of her reach.

Ivy coaches will also ask if she’s taken the SAT or ACT. It’s not a deal breaker if she hasn’t taken it by 9/1. But it certainly helps if she has and hit a decent score (1250 or higher that puts her in the ballpark where she can take it several more times over the next 1.5 years to get it at / close / above the 1350 number). If the score is below 1300 they will ask her to take it again and again until she can get it close to 1350.

Ivy coaches don’t want to put their commits in danger of being rejected. They want the admissions process to be as easy as possible for their recruits to avoid that possibility. That’s why they look for kids who have good grades and good scores (and can show promise that they can increase those scores over time.)

I’m a NY parent (recently learned of this forum and just read the crazy YJ posts in another thread). I’m telling you all of this from current personal experience. Not sure what policies of the past may have been.

But the bottom line is that grades and test scores most certainly do matter for the ivies.




If the SAT

Sophomore year and pre-junior summers are spent prepping and taking the SAT. You want to be eligible right away to fit into the Ivy’s academic index. Personal experience. Off your score is high they will take you right away.
Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong. For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.

No the ivies don’t. They aren’t allowed. Stop spreading a myth.

^ This is wrong from personnel experience. Preferred to be sure.

The myth seems to be that the coaches at high academic schools are focused on high academics when recruiting players....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong. For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.

No the ivies don’t. They aren’t allowed. Stop spreading a myth.

^ This is wrong from personnel experience. Preferred to be sure.

Anonymous wrote:A kid who can’t get at least a 1350 really should not be attending a top academic school. It’s a clear signal of the ability to handle the most rigorous workload. And no, being able to afford a study course or tutor is not relevant. That doesn’t raise the score that much and all the tips and tricks for taking the test are available in any local library - lots of books on this - as well as practice tests. There is really no excuse for letting an athlete into these schools without a “good-enough” score.

Some kids don’t test well but still excel at class work. You ableist jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong. For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.

No the ivies don’t. They aren’t allowed. Stop spreading a myth.

An earlier post, and generally, it seems to be accepted that the coaches at "top academic schools" get a few "exceptions" for their recruiting classes. So, the position that all players recruited to top academic schools having >1350 is naïve.

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Anonymous wrote:A kid who can’t get at least a 1350 really should not be attending a top academic school. It’s a clear signal of the ability to handle the most rigorous workload. And no, being able to afford a study course or tutor is not relevant. That doesn’t raise the score that much and all the tips and tricks for taking the test are available in any local library - lots of books on this - as well as practice tests. There is really no excuse for letting an athlete into these schools without a “good-enough” score.

Not to mention the added workload from the athletic commitments on top of the heavy academic workload.

True.

Anonymous wrote:A kid who can’t get at least a 1350 really should not be attending a top academic school. It’s a clear signal of the ability to handle the most rigorous workload. And no, being able to afford a study course or tutor is not relevant. That doesn’t raise the score that much and all the tips and tricks for taking the test are available in any local library - lots of books on this - as well as practice tests. There is really no excuse for letting an athlete into these schools without a “good-enough” score.

Not to mention the added workload from the athletic commitments on top of the heavy academic workload.

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Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong. For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.

No the ivies don’t. They aren’t allowed. Stop spreading a myth.

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Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Happens more than you think, they are called legacies. Sometimes, it's just who you know or your family name. Future president. This Harvard man's essay was incredible. I can see why they let him in.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a39004070/jfk-harvard-admissions-essay-viral/

So you’re talking about the .1% of the girls lax population where the younger sister of a current D1 player at a top academic may get special consideration from the same school? Hardly a sample size to claim this “happens more than you think.” Just about every top-tier academic D1 interested in our ‘23 asked for her scores and said 1350 was the expected SAT target. One said 1400. Coaches at schools that went “test optional” said if no score is submitted the transcript needs to be spotless with mostly / all APs jr and sr years. And even then they still desire multiple SAT attempts to make the application as strong as possible. Scores still matter, folks.

Dumb question from a parent of a 25 who hasn't been through this yet. Do girls targeting high academic schools need to take SATs early? With contact period starting 9/1, most girls won't have taken their standardized tests yet.

Yes. Your recruiting director should tell you this in your first meeting.

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Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Happens more than you think, they are called legacies. Sometimes, it's just who you know or your family name. Future president. This Harvard man's essay was incredible. I can see why they let him in.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a39004070/jfk-harvard-admissions-essay-viral/

So you’re talking about the .1% of the girls lax population where the younger sister of a current D1 player at a top academic may get special consideration from the same school? Hardly a sample size to claim this “happens more than you think.” Just about every top-tier academic D1 interested in our ‘23 asked for her scores and said 1350 was the expected SAT target. One said 1400. Coaches at schools that went “test optional” said if no score is submitted the transcript needs to be spotless with mostly / all APs jr and sr years. And even then they still desire multiple SAT attempts to make the application as strong as possible. Scores still matter, folks.

Dumb question from a parent of a 25 who hasn't been through this yet. Do girls targeting high academic schools need to take SATs early? With contact period starting 9/1, most girls won't have taken their standardized tests yet.

Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong. For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.

A kid who can’t get at least a 1350 really should not be attending a top academic school. It’s a clear signal of the ability to handle the most rigorous workload. And no, being able to afford a study course or tutor is not relevant. That doesn’t raise the score that much and all the tips and tricks for taking the test are available in any local library - lots of books on this - as well as practice tests. There is really no excuse for letting an athlete into these schools without a “good-enough” score.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Happens more than you think, they are called legacies. Sometimes, it's just who you know or your family name. Future president. This Harvard man's essay was incredible. I can see why they let him in.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a39004070/jfk-harvard-admissions-essay-viral/

So you’re talking about the .1% of the girls lax population where the younger sister of a current D1 player at a top academic may get special consideration from the same school? Hardly a sample size to claim this “happens more than you think.” Just about every top-tier academic D1 interested in our ‘23 asked for her scores and said 1350 was the expected SAT target. One said 1400. Coaches at schools that went “test optional” said if no score is submitted the transcript needs to be spotless with mostly / all APs jr and sr years. And even then they still desire multiple SAT attempts to make the application as strong as possible. Scores still matter, folks.

And after the Varsity Blues scandal, top academics are hyper focused on playing it strictly by the book in making sure recruited athletes are thoroughly vetted as part of the admission process. Can’t speak to what may have happened in the past. But suggesting that these places are using recruiting slots to accommodate favors in light of the scrutiny they are all under is ludicrous.

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Anonymous wrote:Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT.

Happens more than you think, they are called legacies. Sometimes, it's just who you know or your family name. Future president. This Harvard man's essay was incredible. I can see why they let him in.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a39004070/jfk-harvard-admissions-essay-viral/

So you’re talking about the .1% of the girls lax population where the younger sister of a current D1 player at a top academic may get special consideration from the same school? Hardly a sample size to claim this “happens more than you think.” Just about every top-tier academic D1 interested in our ‘23 asked for her scores and said 1350 was the expected SAT target. One said 1400. Coaches at schools that went “test optional” said if no score is submitted the transcript needs to be spotless with mostly / all APs jr and sr years. And even then they still desire multiple SAT attempts to make the application as strong as possible. Scores still matter, folks.