Oprah can absolutely be trusted for advice about great gift giving. Not sure anyone should trust her about weight loss or spiritual matters, as in both arenas she’s always bounced all over the place. Changes with all winds and trends. Oprah’s thing is being a fabulous interviewer of others, who often do have interesting or helpful things to say. She’s a platform for pop culture advise, more than the advise dispenser. She also makes her money from advertisers and publishers and others making money off of her. Not directly from her viewers. Even tickets to her tappings were free, lottery-style.

Jen is claiming to be totally and hurriedly healed after something hugely traumatic (that many of her readers have also gone through, or maybe will) and literally making money off of readers directly. Selling them products and courses she has personally curated and claims have changed her life, while also hiding others ways she’s met her own needs and also hiding the parts of her public story that are at best leaving out details and at worst totally fabricated. It’s legal fraud.

An honest question. I don’t like Hatmaker at all either, but why are we expecting her to have it all together before dispensing advice? We didn’t (or I didn’t) check to see if Oprah was stable before watching her stuff. I’m not sure emotional stability is required, strangely, before giving advice! Weird….

All of her lip smacking. So gross

Good Lord. I know it's been said before but Jen in her live videos looks so rough, and twenty years older than Tina. What in the world.

Anonymous wrote:Ethics aside because that’s enough of a problem on its own - I question the quality of the therapist who would enable Jen to carry on that she is fully healed and wouldn’t be working to unveil about 100 other issues going on. Or wouldn’t present ideas and direction to detach from her online persona and work on her real life self to ground and heal because this continues to be a train wreck and it’s pretty obvious. Nothing about this course from any angle looks good or speaks well for either of them. More over there are hundreds of free YouTube videos on trauma and recovery that are high quality and tons of paid online programs/courses online like all over the place. What is the point and prestige of this one? $$$

exactly! sad and ridiculous

Ethics aside because that’s enough of a problem on its own - I question the quality of the therapist who would enable Jen to carry on that she is fully healed and wouldn’t be working to unveil about 100 other issues going on. Or wouldn’t present ideas and direction to detach from her online persona and work on her real life self to ground and heal because this continues to be a train wreck and it’s pretty obvious. Nothing about this course from any angle looks good or speaks well for either of them. More over there are hundreds of free YouTube videos on trauma and recovery that are high quality and tons of paid online programs/courses online like all over the place. What is the point and prestige of this one? $$$

So Jen and her therapist have teamed up to create a MeCourse on trauma and recovery which they are now selling to the general public?

Seems ethical and legit.

Anonymous wrote:This made me also think of how active was Brandon in the business. I did some googling and found this:

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tx/0802181215

Apparently there’s an investigation on going on this….all heresay but from what I’ve heard (people who have worked with big sis)….at the separation big sis had the contacts (her cook book, etc) pulled that were under the HP umbrella and put in her own company before things were final to cut it from the bottom line of the divorce. Because HP was marital property and Brandon managed all of the business contracts. This also matches up with all of her comments about not knowing anything about finances so it makes sense to me.

It’s crazy how much of a different person Jen is in 2023 versus 7 or 8 years ago. People who are around her all the time haven’t noticed the changes over the years but anyone who knew her back in the day and saw her again today would be utterly shocked.

Really shilling her therapist this morning

There’s a part of me that thinks she won’t go through with it because 1. She’s going to realize the effort that is going to be required of her to be nice to people who aren’t her friends and 2. not enough people are going to sign up for it to financially make sense

Big Sis Cruise Lines is a new low for Big Sis. It’s so bush league. Could you imagine having to entertain doing something like this to make money?

SNL could do a skit based on the tarte beauty influencers going to Dubai but instead they show lame 50-somethings and the kind of endorsements they get like a cheap cruise where they have to guarantee they’ll sell a certain amount of cabins.

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Anonymous wrote:This made me also think of how active was Brandon in the business. I did some googling and found this:

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tx/0802181215

Does this mean this LLC was disbanded bc they didn’t pay their business taxes?

Not necessarily. Even businesses with no activity and no tax liability have to file at least an annual public information report. If they didn’t file the report, the entity can be dissolved by the state. Many places just don’t do the report and die out that way, it’s only an issue if you are still in operation. My guess is they weren’t operating and stopped filing their public information reports, which leads to dissolution.

Anonymous wrote:This made me also think of how active was Brandon in the business. I did some googling and found this:

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tx/0802181215

Does this mean this LLC was disbanded bc they didn’t pay their business taxes?