Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is not the specific things she said. Even the "kill yourself" comments, while vile and indefensible, wouldn't be enough to make me write her off if it was just once and she clearly didn't mean it literally (everyone makes mistakes).

Nope, what grosses me out is the whole infrastructure of her personality. I have met people like this. They treat people that they view as "above" them, or on their level, incredibly well. They are world class ass kissers. Sometimes they are great at this kind of connecting behavior -- oh let me introduce you to my amazing stylist, oh hey we know the manager at that place let me get you a good table, etc. It's all designed to ensure that the people they have deemed to matter like them.

And then they treat the people they deem below them like trash. I think sometimes it's self-protective, like if they can destroy people who they believe to be a rung or two lower, that will improve their standing. But I also think it's a weird flex, like they are testing to see how powerful they are. If I tell one of the people above me that one of the people below me is trash, will they take my word for it? If I complain to the manager at this restaurant, will that waiter be punished and will I get a comped meal? They are trying to figure out where they rank and this is one way to do it.

To me, this might be the most toxic behavior I've ever encountered that wasn't illegal. It's just this zero sum approach to life. And there are no real values other than power and clout. When they are kind, it has no real meaning except that they think you have more power than them. And when they are cruel, it's not really even personal (though I'm sure it feels that way), it's based entirely on this mental calculation they've made about which people are worth treating well and which are not.

It's not that she said a terrible thing once ten years ago. It's that she has a pattern of behavior where she treats people who are more famous or more powerful well, and people who are less famous or powerful like garbage. She is soulless.

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Anonymous wrote:Now Farrah Abraham is claiming to be in therapy over Chrissy calling her a whore. Um Farrah, the entire country was calling you a whore - you did a porno and then claimed you had no idea you were being filmed and the video would be distributed because you thought you were just dating the guy you did porn with! Never mind the whole boat thing.

People need to get some inner strength if what one person says on social media makes them suicidal. I was relentlessly bullied as a kid, told to kill myself countless times, and just hoped they wouldn't become parents and raise another generation of people just like them. I never thought "Maybe I SHOULD kill myself" but more thought "What the hell is WRONG with them?"

You were relentlessly bullied and decided to turn around and become a bully yourself? And really, calling Farrah a “whore?” Grow up and don’t use the excuse “well everyone else did it” to justify bad behavior.

She is literally the definition of it....trading sex for money. Not sure why saying that is bullying in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:Now Farrah Abraham is claiming to be in therapy over Chrissy calling her a whore. Um Farrah, the entire country was calling you a whore - you did a porno and then claimed you had no idea you were being filmed and the video would be distributed because you thought you were just dating the guy you did porn with! Never mind the whole boat thing.

People need to get some inner strength if what one person says on social media makes them suicidal. I was relentlessly bullied as a kid, told to kill myself countless times, and just hoped they wouldn't become parents and raise another generation of people just like them. I never thought "Maybe I SHOULD kill myself" but more thought "What the hell is WRONG with them?"

You were relentlessly bullied and decided to turn around and become a bully yourself? And really, calling Farrah a “whore?” Grow up and don’t use the excuse “well everyone else did it” to justify bad behavior.

Who did the pp bully?

Also, what’s it called when you have sex in exchange for money?

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Anonymous wrote:Now Farrah Abraham is claiming to be in therapy over Chrissy calling her a whore. Um Farrah, the entire country was calling you a whore - you did a porno and then claimed you had no idea you were being filmed and the video would be distributed because you thought you were just dating the guy you did porn with! Never mind the whole boat thing.

People need to get some inner strength if what one person says on social media makes them suicidal. I was relentlessly bullied as a kid, told to kill myself countless times, and just hoped they wouldn't become parents and raise another generation of people just like them. I never thought "Maybe I SHOULD kill myself" but more thought "What the hell is WRONG with them?"

You were relentlessly bullied and decided to turn around and become a bully yourself? And really, calling Farrah a “whore?” Grow up and don’t use the excuse “well everyone else did it” to justify bad behavior.

Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is not the specific things she said. Even the "kill yourself" comments, while vile and indefensible, wouldn't be enough to make me write her off if it was just once and she clearly didn't mean it literally (everyone makes mistakes).

Nope, what grosses me out is the whole infrastructure of her personality. I have met people like this. They treat people that they view as "above" them, or on their level, incredibly well. They are world class ass kissers. Sometimes they are great at this kind of connecting behavior -- oh let me introduce you to my amazing stylist, oh hey we know the manager at that place let me get you a good table, etc. It's all designed to ensure that the people they have deemed to matter like them.

And then they treat the people they deem below them like trash. I think sometimes it's self-protective, like if they can destroy people who they believe to be a rung or two lower, that will improve their standing. But I also think it's a weird flex, like they are testing to see how powerful they are. If I tell one of the people above me that one of the people below me is trash, will they take my word for it? If I complain to the manager at this restaurant, will that waiter be punished and will I get a comped meal? They are trying to figure out where they rank and this is one way to do it.

To me, this might be the most toxic behavior I've ever encountered that wasn't illegal. It's just this zero sum approach to life. And there are no real values other than power and clout. When they are kind, it has no real meaning except that they think you have more power than them. And when they are cruel, it's not really even personal (though I'm sure it feels that way), it's based entirely on this mental calculation they've made about which people are worth treating well and which are not.

It's not that she said a terrible thing once ten years ago. It's that she has a pattern of behavior where she treats people who are more famous or more powerful well, and people who are less famous or powerful like garbage. She is soulless.

Anonymous wrote:Now Farrah Abraham is claiming to be in therapy over Chrissy calling her a whore. Um Farrah, the entire country was calling you a whore - you did a porno and then claimed you had no idea you were being filmed and the video would be distributed because you thought you were just dating the guy you did porn with! Never mind the whole boat thing.

People need to get some inner strength if what one person says on social media makes them suicidal. I was relentlessly bullied as a kid, told to kill myself countless times, and just hoped they wouldn't become parents and raise another generation of people just like them. I never thought "Maybe I SHOULD kill myself" but more thought "What the hell is WRONG with them?"

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Anonymous wrote:Well well.

https://www.etonline.com/michael-costello-says-chrissy-teigens-alleged-bullying-made-him-want-to-kill-himself-167322

Wow. I was neutral on her before all of this, but this is just the nail on the coffin.

This is bad - he still has her DMs to back up his account. Given all she’s done, I hope she remains cancelled. Her influence is not needed.

Good grief. This is not simply mean girl behavior. This psycho has now gotten caught telling two separate people to kill themselves or die—well past the age where she should have known better. What kind of person goes around saying that to multiple people? There is something seriously wrong with her.

Actually lots of people. I’m guessing most posters here have no idea the vile and racists things people say on Call of Duty and Fortnite. These are teenagers, kids, adults, etc. Not giving Chrissy a pass but people are mean.

Gaming is a large but niche industry. I would caution against assuming that the ethics and mores demonstrated there are consistent with those of the real world.

I would caution in assuming ethics and morals are somehow different there then in the real world. The real world has consistently shown itself to be unethical and immoral. People say lots of things behind closed doors or when they think no one is listening. Alcohol also has a way of allowing people to show their true colors.

Actually almost everyone I know irl tries to be kind and ethical as much as they can. If that’s not true for you, maybe it has something to do with who you surround yourself with. Perhaps you could benefit from making different choices.

+1. It's pretty clear PP has a bad history she doesn't want exposed or be held accountable for. Better to clean up your own act instead of pointing fingers at others. I can without a doubt say never have I ever written nasty messages to someone privately or publicly telling them to off themselves. If you have, then that's something you have to live with. Plenty of us don't have to worry about any craziness coming to light.

Ma’am you are indeed pointing fingers. I’m the pp you are referring to and no, I don’t have a bad history. I’m not dumb enough to post anything on social media with my name attached. I just realize plenty of people do and did. Sorry not sorry that I don’t have my head buried in the sand. You’re on a thread about someone posting vile messages and still sitting here acting confused.

I'm confused that someone keeps minimizing what happened and trying to suggest other people are just as bad and therefore we shouldn't give Chrissy a hard time. Sorry, no. That's an excuse my children use, "but he did it too!" Putting your head in the sand is pretending this isn't that bad or not big deal or just what people did all of ten years ago. Wake up.

I’m confused where you see minimizing. It’s a discussion and acknowledging bad behavior from other people can be discussed.

It's coming across like a deflection. If you want to talk about other people maybe start a new thread about bad behavior on social media? This thread is about CT.

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You should probably also complain about the posters who mentioned Mel Gibson.

No. I will just keep pointing out the weak attempts at deflection as necessary. Carry on with your whataboutism. It's too late. Chrissy's reputation is in the toilet.

Someone’s gotta be the complainer.

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https://www.etonline.com/michael-costello-says-chrissy-teigens-alleged-bullying-made-him-want-to-kill-himself-167322

Wow. I was neutral on her before all of this, but this is just the nail on the coffin.

This is bad - he still has her DMs to back up his account. Given all she’s done, I hope she remains cancelled. Her influence is not needed.

Good grief. This is not simply mean girl behavior. This psycho has now gotten caught telling two separate people to kill themselves or die—well past the age where she should have known better. What kind of person goes around saying that to multiple people? There is something seriously wrong with her.

Actually lots of people. I’m guessing most posters here have no idea the vile and racists things people say on Call of Duty and Fortnite. These are teenagers, kids, adults, etc. Not giving Chrissy a pass but people are mean.

Gaming is a large but niche industry. I would caution against assuming that the ethics and mores demonstrated there are consistent with those of the real world.

I would caution in assuming ethics and morals are somehow different there then in the real world. The real world has consistently shown itself to be unethical and immoral. People say lots of things behind closed doors or when they think no one is listening. Alcohol also has a way of allowing people to show their true colors.

Actually almost everyone I know irl tries to be kind and ethical as much as they can. If that’s not true for you, maybe it has something to do with who you surround yourself with. Perhaps you could benefit from making different choices.

+1. It's pretty clear PP has a bad history she doesn't want exposed or be held accountable for. Better to clean up your own act instead of pointing fingers at others. I can without a doubt say never have I ever written nasty messages to someone privately or publicly telling them to off themselves. If you have, then that's something you have to live with. Plenty of us don't have to worry about any craziness coming to light.

Ma’am you are indeed pointing fingers. I’m the pp you are referring to and no, I don’t have a bad history. I’m not dumb enough to post anything on social media with my name attached. I just realize plenty of people do and did. Sorry not sorry that I don’t have my head buried in the sand. You’re on a thread about someone posting vile messages and still sitting here acting confused.

I'm confused that someone keeps minimizing what happened and trying to suggest other people are just as bad and therefore we shouldn't give Chrissy a hard time. Sorry, no. That's an excuse my children use, "but he did it too!" Putting your head in the sand is pretending this isn't that bad or not big deal or just what people did all of ten years ago. Wake up.

I’m confused where you see minimizing. It’s a discussion and acknowledging bad behavior from other people can be discussed.

It's coming across like a deflection. If you want to talk about other people maybe start a new thread about bad behavior on social media? This thread is about CT.

No.

You should probably also complain about the posters who mentioned Mel Gibson.

No. I will just keep pointing out the weak attempts at deflection as necessary. Carry on with your whataboutism. It's too late. Chrissy's reputation is in the toilet.

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https://www.etonline.com/michael-costello-says-chrissy-teigens-alleged-bullying-made-him-want-to-kill-himself-167322

Wow. I was neutral on her before all of this, but this is just the nail on the coffin.

This is bad - he still has her DMs to back up his account. Given all she’s done, I hope she remains cancelled. Her influence is not needed.

Good grief. This is not simply mean girl behavior. This psycho has now gotten caught telling two separate people to kill themselves or die—well past the age where she should have known better. What kind of person goes around saying that to multiple people? There is something seriously wrong with her.

Actually lots of people. I’m guessing most posters here have no idea the vile and racists things people say on Call of Duty and Fortnite. These are teenagers, kids, adults, etc. Not giving Chrissy a pass but people are mean.

Gaming is a large but niche industry. I would caution against assuming that the ethics and mores demonstrated there are consistent with those of the real world.

I would caution in assuming ethics and morals are somehow different there then in the real world. The real world has consistently shown itself to be unethical and immoral. People say lots of things behind closed doors or when they think no one is listening. Alcohol also has a way of allowing people to show their true colors.

Actually almost everyone I know irl tries to be kind and ethical as much as they can. If that’s not true for you, maybe it has something to do with who you surround yourself with. Perhaps you could benefit from making different choices.

+1. It's pretty clear PP has a bad history she doesn't want exposed or be held accountable for. Better to clean up your own act instead of pointing fingers at others. I can without a doubt say never have I ever written nasty messages to someone privately or publicly telling them to off themselves. If you have, then that's something you have to live with. Plenty of us don't have to worry about any craziness coming to light.

Ma’am you are indeed pointing fingers. I’m the pp you are referring to and no, I don’t have a bad history. I’m not dumb enough to post anything on social media with my name attached. I just realize plenty of people do and did. Sorry not sorry that I don’t have my head buried in the sand. You’re on a thread about someone posting vile messages and still sitting here acting confused.

I'm confused that someone keeps minimizing what happened and trying to suggest other people are just as bad and therefore we shouldn't give Chrissy a hard time. Sorry, no. That's an excuse my children use, "but he did it too!" Putting your head in the sand is pretending this isn't that bad or not big deal or just what people did all of ten years ago. Wake up.

I’m confused where you see minimizing. It’s a discussion and acknowledging bad behavior from other people can be discussed.

It's coming across like a deflection. If you want to talk about other people maybe start a new thread about bad behavior on social media? This thread is about CT.

No.

You should probably also complain about the posters who mentioned Mel Gibson.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well.

https://www.etonline.com/michael-costello-says-chrissy-teigens-alleged-bullying-made-him-want-to-kill-himself-167322

Wow. I was neutral on her before all of this, but this is just the nail on the coffin.

This is bad - he still has her DMs to back up his account. Given all she’s done, I hope she remains cancelled. Her influence is not needed.

Good grief. This is not simply mean girl behavior. This psycho has now gotten caught telling two separate people to kill themselves or die—well past the age where she should have known better. What kind of person goes around saying that to multiple people? There is something seriously wrong with her.

Actually lots of people. I’m guessing most posters here have no idea the vile and racists things people say on Call of Duty and Fortnite. These are teenagers, kids, adults, etc. Not giving Chrissy a pass but people are mean.

Gaming is a large but niche industry. I would caution against assuming that the ethics and mores demonstrated there are consistent with those of the real world.

I would caution in assuming ethics and morals are somehow different there then in the real world. The real world has consistently shown itself to be unethical and immoral. People say lots of things behind closed doors or when they think no one is listening. Alcohol also has a way of allowing people to show their true colors.

Actually almost everyone I know irl tries to be kind and ethical as much as they can. If that’s not true for you, maybe it has something to do with who you surround yourself with. Perhaps you could benefit from making different choices.

+1. It's pretty clear PP has a bad history she doesn't want exposed or be held accountable for. Better to clean up your own act instead of pointing fingers at others. I can without a doubt say never have I ever written nasty messages to someone privately or publicly telling them to off themselves. If you have, then that's something you have to live with. Plenty of us don't have to worry about any craziness coming to light.

Ma’am you are indeed pointing fingers. I’m the pp you are referring to and no, I don’t have a bad history. I’m not dumb enough to post anything on social media with my name attached. I just realize plenty of people do and did. Sorry not sorry that I don’t have my head buried in the sand. You’re on a thread about someone posting vile messages and still sitting here acting confused.

I'm confused that someone keeps minimizing what happened and trying to suggest other people are just as bad and therefore we shouldn't give Chrissy a hard time. Sorry, no. That's an excuse my children use, "but he did it too!" Putting your head in the sand is pretending this isn't that bad or not big deal or just what people did all of ten years ago. Wake up.

I’m confused where you see minimizing. It’s a discussion and acknowledging bad behavior from other people can be discussed.

It's coming across like a deflection. If you want to talk about other people maybe start a new thread about bad behavior on social media? This thread is about CT.

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https://www.etonline.com/michael-costello-says-chrissy-teigens-alleged-bullying-made-him-want-to-kill-himself-167322

Wow. I was neutral on her before all of this, but this is just the nail on the coffin.

This is bad - he still has her DMs to back up his account. Given all she’s done, I hope she remains cancelled. Her influence is not needed.

Good grief. This is not simply mean girl behavior. This psycho has now gotten caught telling two separate people to kill themselves or die—well past the age where she should have known better. What kind of person goes around saying that to multiple people? There is something seriously wrong with her.

Actually lots of people. I’m guessing most posters here have no idea the vile and racists things people say on Call of Duty and Fortnite. These are teenagers, kids, adults, etc. Not giving Chrissy a pass but people are mean.

Gaming is a large but niche industry. I would caution against assuming that the ethics and mores demonstrated there are consistent with those of the real world.

I would caution in assuming ethics and morals are somehow different there then in the real world. The real world has consistently shown itself to be unethical and immoral. People say lots of things behind closed doors or when they think no one is listening. Alcohol also has a way of allowing people to show their true colors.

Actually almost everyone I know irl tries to be kind and ethical as much as they can. If that’s not true for you, maybe it has something to do with who you surround yourself with. Perhaps you could benefit from making different choices.

+1. It's pretty clear PP has a bad history she doesn't want exposed or be held accountable for. Better to clean up your own act instead of pointing fingers at others. I can without a doubt say never have I ever written nasty messages to someone privately or publicly telling them to off themselves. If you have, then that's something you have to live with. Plenty of us don't have to worry about any craziness coming to light.

Ma’am you are indeed pointing fingers. I’m the pp you are referring to and no, I don’t have a bad history. I’m not dumb enough to post anything on social media with my name attached. I just realize plenty of people do and did. Sorry not sorry that I don’t have my head buried in the sand. You’re on a thread about someone posting vile messages and still sitting here acting confused.

I'm confused that someone keeps minimizing what happened and trying to suggest other people are just as bad and therefore we shouldn't give Chrissy a hard time. Sorry, no. That's an excuse my children use, "but he did it too!" Putting your head in the sand is pretending this isn't that bad or not big deal or just what people did all of ten years ago. Wake up.

I’m confused where you see minimizing. It’s a discussion and acknowledging bad behavior from other people can be discussed.