Anonymous
Post 09/02/2020 12:16     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish


Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?


Of course. Any criticism must SURELY be jealousy. Because, ND supporters thrive on that thought.

Look, my kid isn't even in HS. And I hope all schools can eventually go back in person. But ND is getting it under control by locking down, something that is ending in a couple of weeks. Not only will kids be in class but football is commencing. Plus, it's going to start getting cold, more people indoors, the flu season starting, etc. LOTS of variables here. And while ND people can feel free to crow about how magnificently ND is handling things now, let's see what happens by October. Maybe it will be fine; but I think equally possible at ND and other campuses is that it will not be fine.


Grad students have been in class. in person classes for undergrads return tomorrow. Obviously you don't have any idea what is going on.


You're cute.

In grad class, in the bubble of those classes, is different than the entire university going back, on/off campus and going to football games/tailgating. But, I think you already know that and are just being contrary.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2020 11:48     Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to me to see how data plays out---they added a note about how the test cases change because it can take time to get positive results and they are added on the date they administered (which makes sense) not the date they are found to be positive. They've got the resources to have a quick turnaround on cases, but now as you see the earlier days fill up there was a second bump in the data that earlier seems like it was flattening.


So many different ways to report data. I like that DC reports the date a person is first assumed to have been contagious, which seems a good protocol because it shows how many people were know to be contagious across a series of dates.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2020 11:31     Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to me to see how data plays out---they added a note about how the test cases change because it can take time to get positive results and they are added on the date they administered (which makes sense) not the date they are found to be positive. They've got the resources to have a quick turnaround on cases, but now as you see the earlier days fill up there was a second bump in the data that earlier seems like it was flattening.


Yep so the celebrating of 8 cases usually turns into 15 etc.


Actually if you examine it closely, there was a slight bump about 4-5 days after the spike early in the semester. This was caused by day 4 testing protocol of students in quarantine due to contact tracing.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2020 11:27     Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to me to see how data plays out---they added a note about how the test cases change because it can take time to get positive results and they are added on the date they administered (which makes sense) not the date they are found to be positive. They've got the resources to have a quick turnaround on cases, but now as you see the earlier days fill up there was a second bump in the data that earlier seems like it was flattening.


Yep so the celebrating of 8 cases usually turns into 15 etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2020 11:14     Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
It's interesting to me to see how data plays out---they added a note about how the test cases change because it can take time to get positive results and they are added on the date they administered (which makes sense) not the date they are found to be positive. They've got the resources to have a quick turnaround on cases, but now as you see the earlier days fill up there was a second bump in the data that earlier seems like it was flattening.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2020 09:41     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
What do you want to talk about today?
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 17:28     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
If there will be alcohol at the football game, there will be close social contact. One thing about keeping kids quarantined in dorms is that alcohol would have been harder to come by. Once the booze is freely flowing, inhibitions are loosened, judgment is impaired, and students disregard social distancing.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 16:56     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish


Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?


Well, the in-person learning was suspended to get the virus numbers down, right? Let's see what happens to the numbers when it resumes. ND loyalists can't afford to be smug about this, at least not yet.

You really like the virus was spreading in classes?


PP here. No, not much -- or at least not as the main source of spread. Resuming classes is just sort of a proxy for a general opening up and relaxation of the measures that tamped down the virus. I can't see a bunch of college students deciding not to socialize for an entire semester, and it's the social time together -- and I'm not just talking about beer bashes -- that will lead to an increase in the spread. I hope ND and other colleges can pull this off. But there's a whiff here of what happened in the country this spring -- this sense that, "Ok, we locked down for a while, we're done with that now." ANd then the cases start rising again.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 15:54     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
They must have Brian Kelly ruining around campus yelling at the students like he does the players.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 15:28     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish


Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?


Of course. Any criticism must SURELY be jealousy. Because, ND supporters thrive on that thought.

Look, my kid isn't even in HS. And I hope all schools can eventually go back in person. But ND is getting it under control by locking down, something that is ending in a couple of weeks. Not only will kids be in class but football is commencing. Plus, it's going to start getting cold, more people indoors, the flu season starting, etc. LOTS of variables here. And while ND people can feel free to crow about how magnificently ND is handling things now, let's see what happens by October. Maybe it will be fine; but I think equally possible at ND and other campuses is that it will not be fine.


Grad students have been in class. in person classes for undergrads return tomorrow. Obviously you don't have any idea what is going on.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 15:18     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
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Anonymous wrote:Watch what happens on September 12th sure the stadium will have students spread out but tailgates, parties etc. That is where this spread is happening. It just won't be at ND it will be at all the schools who are playing football.


Move those goalposts... dooms day in a week... no, two weeks... no, a week or two after the first football game! Give it a rest.


Not really. This is just the new normal. Constant vigilance and when there are student get togethers esp without masks, be aware that they could be a spike in cases after 2 weeks. Be prepared to hunker down for a bit until cases go down again. Just the way it is going to have to be.

Not doomsday -- just spikes in cases that need to be dealt with. Surge testing when that happens.


Agree completely. I really don't understand why people are so intentional and hopeful about ND failing. No one should be saying gotcha. And as the numbers stand now, the ND community has done a good job of mitigating future risk. I would never wish ill on any college or university trying to serve their population in the manner they see fit. Sad.


I know right? I really think some of these posters are frustrated because their college aged kids are living in their basements doing virtual classes.


And some of it is response to the weird pro-ND stance when they have numbers way worse than many other schools of similar size who have kids on campus, taking classes and remote. The sort of puffing about about how ND will be a model to other schools and whatnot when the numbers that they've gotten DOWN to after switching to remote are worse than the numbers that other open schools have on any given day.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 14:39     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Let's be realistic. Grad students have been back in class for more than a week and the numbers are still good. I think the student body got a wakeup call, and it will be smoother this time around when it opens. as it is going to.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 14:36     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
The non-affiliated doomers and hysterics were drawn to this because Notre Dame is seen as Christian/Catholic, affluent, white, and conservative (even though campus really is more centrist/left leaning than the stereotype).

The unhinged leftist atheists will move onto a new target now.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 14:27     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish


Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?


Of course. Any criticism must SURELY be jealousy. Because, ND supporters thrive on that thought.

Look, my kid isn't even in HS. And I hope all schools can eventually go back in person. But ND is getting it under control by locking down, something that is ending in a couple of weeks. Not only will kids be in class but football is commencing. Plus, it's going to start getting cold, more people indoors, the flu season starting, etc. LOTS of variables here. And while ND people can feel free to crow about how magnificently ND is handling things now, let's see what happens by October. Maybe it will be fine; but I think equally possible at ND and other campuses is that it will not be fine.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2020 14:09     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish


Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?


Well, the in-person learning was suspended to get the virus numbers down, right? Let's see what happens to the numbers when it resumes. ND loyalists can't afford to be smug about this, at least not yet.

You really like the virus was spreading in classes?