Anonymous
Post 01/22/2020 08:52     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ I mean, that's basically what those guys in Richmond looked like yesterday. Same idea. Fantasy cosplay geekery.


Nice try. But, it's still a fail.


Really, it's not. But your butthurt is hilarious.

I mean, a bunch of grown men, most of whom couldn't actually make it in the military parading around in paramilitary gear isn't any different than nerds doing cosplay at Comiccon.


Um. A good number of those present yesterday were..... wait for it...... IN THE MILITARY.


No they weren't. They were cosplaying as soldier boys in their "militias" -- which shouldn't be called as such.

A good number of those presents yesterday weren't even Virginians. Why would our legislators give a hoot what they say?



Shows how much you know about the crowd. I'll bet you didn't know one person who attended, but you think you are entitled to pontificate about what you think you know based on your bias and stereotypes.



You would be correct. I do not associate with gun nuts. I prefer my friends to be sane and rational.

That said, I have been forced, professionally, to interact with these types and rest assured by biases and stereotypes are well-founded.

I'm also old enough to remember when Americans weren't such fearful ninnies who feel the need to walk around security objects. I just think we should substitute a binky for your Glock.


You sound like such a delightful person to be around So open-minded and sophisticated. What do you do for a living? I think I already have an idea, but I'd like to hear it from you first.


It's not your business what I do for a living. I'm plenty open-minded. I just have no tolerance for intolerant fools who seek to intimidate others with weapons. Mockery is highly effective, as you are demonstrating. Mock them as little soldier boys playing dress-ups. You probably had soldier dolls when you were little too, eh?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2020 07:06     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the thread but I have a shallow question based on the pictures. Are gun owners as a group really that much more out of shape than the average? I was pretty surprised at the pictures. They seemed to be overwhelmingly out of shape.


2/3rds of all American adults are overweight or obese.

http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/vast-majority-american-adults-are-overweight-or-obese-and-weight-growing-problem-among
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2020 02:50     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

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Anonymous wrote:I own several guns, and carry a gun every day, but I really feel sorry for most of the protesters. They are people who have simply been left behind in our current society. Do you honestly think that if you have money and can get laid that you would be hanging out with a bunch of guys dressing up like GI Joe? They are just trying to be somebody, and this is all they've got.


Kind of like all the weirdos who show up at “Women’s marches” dressed as vaginas?


I'm the pp and I agree. Most people involved in politics are losers with no hobbies. But I guess it makes them feel good about themselves, so it's better than sitting on the couch watching fake cable news.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 23:02     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

I haven't read the thread but I have a shallow question based on the pictures. Are gun owners as a group really that much more out of shape than the average? I was pretty surprised at the pictures. They seemed to be overwhelmingly out of shape.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 21:54     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

Anonymous wrote:I own several guns, and carry a gun every day, but I really feel sorry for most of the protesters. They are people who have simply been left behind in our current society. Do you honestly think that if you have money and can get laid that you would be hanging out with a bunch of guys dressing up like GI Joe? They are just trying to be somebody, and this is all they've got.


Kind of like all the weirdos who show up at “Women’s marches” dressed as vaginas?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 21:24     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

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Anonymous wrote:Martin Luther King Jr was killed with a gun.

Why hold a pro-gun rally *on* MLK Day?

Instead of reflecting on his great work and words we will be worried about more gun violence. It’s disrespectful at a minimum. It’s blatant hate & racism at worst.

Disgusting.


Lol is this your first time hearing about lobby day? I know you hate rights, so I guess we can add the right to assembly to your list of evil.


Holding a pro-gun rally on MLK Day is disgusting. That’s probably a bigger draw to the white supremacists than the gun rights. Have fun with your very fine friends.




Looking at past years, it seems they hold it each year in the third Monday of January. Last year it was on Jan 21, the year before that Jan 15.

I think you are assuming bigotry.


Right. MLK Day is the third Monday of January.

Hopefully the new General Assembly fixes this.


Lobby day, which isn't just for gun issues, is always on MLK day.


Right. Since it's been dominated by gun rights for many years so the GA should fix that.


Ah, so gun owners just shouldn't even be afforded the opportunity to speak to Delegates or Senators, huh? Gotcha.

What's next? Make them all wear little yellow stars with "G" stenciled on it on their sleeves?


No, just change the date, dummy.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 21:22     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

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Anonymous wrote:People need to petition for red flag orders against gun control advocates, because it's their right to do so if they feel threatened. And I would certainly feel threatened by a total stranger who demanded I give up my guns for no reason other than they desire it. Get red flag laws orders against the membership of Mom's Demand Action. Get red flag orders against the membership of Everytown and the Brady Center. Get red flag laws against tv reporters. Get red flag laws against the politicians who sponsor and vote for these laws. Let them see their own devices used against them. Let their houses be torn apart in a fruitless search. Let their property be damaged and destroyed. Let them reap what they sew.


Oh look. Another stable genius.

1. The risk order would have to be submitted by 2 cops or a DA. Not just any anonymous poster on DCUM.

2. A judge would have to approve the risk order and search warrant to remove firearms.

If you'd like to inform yourself:

Summary:
https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+SB240
Details:
https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB240S3+hil



That's far too restrictive in terms of who can apply to have a red flag order served.

Red flag orders need to be available to everyone, against anyone, not just people related to each other or known by the other. And anonymous as well, to protect the safety of the person applying for the order. And without relying on the approval of some cop. All that should be required to get one is a phone call to whatever the local magistrate is. That's all that should be needed.

Sounds like the current red flag law up for passage this session needs some tweaks to perfect it.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 20:49     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

I own several guns, and carry a gun every day, but I really feel sorry for most of the protesters. They are people who have simply been left behind in our current society. Do you honestly think that if you have money and can get laid that you would be hanging out with a bunch of guys dressing up like GI Joe? They are just trying to be somebody, and this is all they've got.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 20:43     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Martin Luther King Jr was killed with a gun.

Why hold a pro-gun rally *on* MLK Day?

Instead of reflecting on his great work and words we will be worried about more gun violence. It’s disrespectful at a minimum. It’s blatant hate & racism at worst.

Disgusting.


Lol is this your first time hearing about lobby day? I know you hate rights, so I guess we can add the right to assembly to your list of evil.


Holding a pro-gun rally on MLK Day is disgusting. That’s probably a bigger draw to the white supremacists than the gun rights. Have fun with your very fine friends.




Looking at past years, it seems they hold it each year in the third Monday of January. Last year it was on Jan 21, the year before that Jan 15.

I think you are assuming bigotry.


Right. MLK Day is the third Monday of January.

Hopefully the new General Assembly fixes this.


Lobby day, which isn't just for gun issues, is always on MLK day.


Right. Since it's been dominated by gun rights for many years so the GA should fix that.


Ah, so gun owners just shouldn't even be afforded the opportunity to speak to Delegates or Senators, huh? Gotcha.

What's next? Make them all wear little yellow stars with "G" stenciled on it on their sleeves?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 20:39     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ I mean, that's basically what those guys in Richmond looked like yesterday. Same idea. Fantasy cosplay geekery.


Speaking of fantasy cosplay, did any DCUM moms show up in this?





It was 30 degrees yesterday, and windy. No way I'd wear that. Not without 2 pairs of tights on under it, lol!
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Post 01/21/2020 18:51     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

Anonymous wrote:^^^ I mean, that's basically what those guys in Richmond looked like yesterday. Same idea. Fantasy cosplay geekery.


Speaking of fantasy cosplay, did any DCUM moms show up in this?



Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 18:36     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

A registry wouldn’t stop straw purchases but it would make it easier to analyze data to identity possible cases.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 17:20     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Martin Luther King Jr was killed with a gun.

Why hold a pro-gun rally *on* MLK Day?

Instead of reflecting on his great work and words we will be worried about more gun violence. It’s disrespectful at a minimum. It’s blatant hate & racism at worst.

Disgusting.


Lol is this your first time hearing about lobby day? I know you hate rights, so I guess we can add the right to assembly to your list of evil.


Holding a pro-gun rally on MLK Day is disgusting. That’s probably a bigger draw to the white supremacists than the gun rights. Have fun with your very fine friends.




Looking at past years, it seems they hold it each year in the third Monday of January. Last year it was on Jan 21, the year before that Jan 15.

I think you are assuming bigotry.


Right. MLK Day is the third Monday of January.

Hopefully the new General Assembly fixes this.


Lobby day, which isn't just for gun issues, is always on MLK day.


Right. Since it's been dominated by gun rights for many years so the GA should fix that.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 16:52     Subject: Re:75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Martin Luther King Jr was killed with a gun.

Why hold a pro-gun rally *on* MLK Day?

Instead of reflecting on his great work and words we will be worried about more gun violence. It’s disrespectful at a minimum. It’s blatant hate & racism at worst.

Disgusting.


Lol is this your first time hearing about lobby day? I know you hate rights, so I guess we can add the right to assembly to your list of evil.


Holding a pro-gun rally on MLK Day is disgusting. That’s probably a bigger draw to the white supremacists than the gun rights. Have fun with your very fine friends.




Looking at past years, it seems they hold it each year in the third Monday of January. Last year it was on Jan 21, the year before that Jan 15.

I think you are assuming bigotry.


Right. MLK Day is the third Monday of January.

Hopefully the new General Assembly fixes this.


Lobby day, which isn't just for gun issues, is always on MLK day.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2020 16:48     Subject: 75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

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Do you think anyone at anytime should be able to get a gun?



No. We have laws to prevent felons and other from getting weapons.
Do you believe there are no background checks in place already?


Felon walks into a gun show. Should he be allowed to buy a gun without a background check?


No. But, if I wish to gift my firearm to my age-eligible son or daughter, I should not have to conduct a background check.



So you're OK requiring background checks at gun shows then?

Another scenario - your neighbor wants to gift a firearm to his felon son. No background check for him?


The neighbor would be knowingly breaking the law.
And, if there were UBC laws in place, if the neighbor wanted to illegally gift his son a firearm, do you think he would comply by having a background check completed?
You are not reasoning through this........


So you are OK requiring background checks for gun shows?

How about online ads? Your neighbor places an ad online to sell his gun and unknowingly sells to a felon. You don't think he should do a background check on potential buyers?

As long as you can easily gift a gun to your daughter you are OK not requiring background checks for unlicensed sellers?

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/background-checks/interstate-and-online-gun-sales/
- A recent large-scale survey found that 45% of gun owners who acquired a gun online in the past two years did so without any background check.1
- Nearly one in nine prospective gun buyers on Armslist.com (a major web platform for gun classifieds) would not have passed a background check.2
- In 2018 alone, there were 1.2 million ads on Armslist.com for firearm sales where no background check was required.3

How many of those were felons, people with mental health issues, or people with a history of domestic abuse?

I've reasoned through it, weighed the pros/cons, and came to a different conclusion than you. I'm OK if people are inconvenienced if it means we can keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them.


How does that stop a "straw purchase"? Those are allready illegal.

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/crime-guns/trafficking-straw-purchasing/