Anonymous wrote:If talking about the impact of this case, all parties involved have got hurt and there is no winner. Sidwell’s reputation has been damaged for sure. So does the girl and her family. People become more negative to private schools and their parents as a community. The affirmative action and URM get most hurt eventually. This case will be used as an example to demonstrate how rich people abuse affirmative action to benefit their children.

Oh please. You have created your own narrative. How does one abuse affirmative action?

If talking about the impact of this case, all parties involved have got hurt and there is no winner. Sidwell’s reputation has been damaged for sure. So does the girl and her family. People become more negative to private schools and their parents as a community. The affirmative action and URM get most hurt eventually. This case will be used as an example to demonstrate how rich people abuse affirmative action to benefit their children.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I am thinking. The issue is they tried to hurt her and not help. One thing if you don’t get in when field is level and quite another if you find an institution is working against you.

They have to be honest to the colleges. If she and her family were a PIA, then how can they say she is a "top" candidate to the schools where they need to keep credibility?

This is all relative. What if you found out a school was misrepresenting your child's grades. You would be upset. The parents by the way should play zero role in your college recommendation. It should be all about the kid. I have heard zero about this child being a bad kid. I think the parents are doing a great service by letting people know that schools may inhibit your child getting into schools. Schools should be fair for all their kids.

I think the parents have done a major disservice for their daughter, who is now effectively unemployable. No way I hire this person if I do a google search and see this lawsuit. Especially after she has lost twice, to take it to the Supreme Court is brutal. What if I need to fire her, or RIF her for any reason? To fear an unjustified lawsuit from a job applicant? No way.

Depends on perspective, doesn’t it? There are employers who may applaud her courage. Some AA families feel they’ve been treated similarly and are happy someone is finally taking this on. She competed in track at Penn and was a leader in the society for black engineers. She’s marketable and has demonstrated leadership. She also may end up being an entrepreneur.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I am thinking. The issue is they tried to hurt her and not help. One thing if you don’t get in when field is level and quite another if you find an institution is working against you.

They have to be honest to the colleges. If she and her family were a PIA, then how can they say she is a "top" candidate to the schools where they need to keep credibility?

This is all relative. What if you found out a school was misrepresenting your child's grades. You would be upset. The parents by the way should play zero role in your college recommendation. It should be all about the kid. I have heard zero about this child being a bad kid. I think the parents are doing a great service by letting people know that schools may inhibit your child getting into schools. Schools should be fair for all their kids.

I think the parents have done a major disservice for their daughter, who is now effectively unemployable. No way I hire this person if I do a google search and see this lawsuit. Especially after she has lost twice, to take it to the Supreme Court is brutal. What if I need to fire her, or RIF her for any reason? To fear an unjustified lawsuit from a job applicant? No way.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I am thinking. The issue is they tried to hurt her and not help. One thing if you don’t get in when field is level and quite another if you find an institution is working against you.

They have to be honest to the colleges. If she and her family were a PIA, then how can they say she is a "top" candidate to the schools where they need to keep credibility?

This is all relative. What if you found out a school was misrepresenting your child's grades. You would be upset. The parents by the way should play zero role in your college recommendation. It should be all about the kid. I have heard zero about this child being a bad kid. I think the parents are doing a great service by letting people know that schools may inhibit your child getting into schools. Schools should be fair for all their kids.

I know this has probably passed but reading the legal paperwork, i have to say 93.11% is NEVER an A- its a flat A.

I don't think its cut and dry. I think that egregious mistakes were probably made on both sides, as reflected by the ruling.

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Anonymous wrote:I still find it hard to believe she was rejected at every school including the HBCU. Something isn't right. Sounds like Sidwell gave terrible recommendations. Glad she is at UPenn now. Also she was a track star at Sidwell and surprised she did not get in anywhere. The whole thing is so fishy.

Sidwell is a very small school. Being a track star at Sidwell doesn't mean much.

She was DC State Champion in the 100 meter run. This covers all DC public and private schools. That actually does mean much.

About 1% of students in DC do track and field as a sport. From a national athletic standpoint, it means close to nothing.

You are ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:This is what I am thinking. The issue is they tried to hurt her and not help. One thing if you don’t get in when field is level and quite another if you find an institution is working against you.

They have to be honest to the colleges. If she and her family were a PIA, then how can they say she is a "top" candidate to the schools where they need to keep credibility?

This is what I am thinking. The issue is they tried to hurt her and not help. One thing if you don’t get in when field is level and quite another if you find an institution is working against you.

Yes, you may think all you want about how frivolous the suit is but Sidwell didn’t behave properly towards the girl.

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Anonymous wrote:It could be argued and was. And it was rejected TWICE by the courts, so hey, let's take it to SCOTUS so it can get rejected a 3rd time.

Not even an ounce of merit to the case? Sidwell 100% correct?

No, but two courts ruled against the plaintiff and forced them to cover court costs and legal fees. That is pretty determinative, isn't it?

The legal system isn’t infallible, is it?

The fact she got into Penn after Sidwell suggests that like most things it may be more nuanced.

Among students in the class of 2014, she wasn’t exceptional at all. I would say academically in the top 50 percent of the class. Fine but not remarkable, and certainly no lock for HYP.

What is your basis for saying this? Imagine being a parent trying to disparage a kid. Her standardized scores are enough.

There are lots of Sidwell students with better scores and grades than what she had. They don’t all get admitted to Ivy League institutions. And they don’t sue over it, either. The family seem like a bunch of entitled, narcissistic, myopic jackasses.

That is not the point. The school preformed mal acts (artificial transcripts) and college counselling office behaved inappropriately from what I can tell. She is at Penn, so she was clearly qualified.

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Anonymous wrote:I still find it hard to believe she was rejected at every school including the HBCU. Something isn't right. Sounds like Sidwell gave terrible recommendations. Glad she is at UPenn now. Also she was a track star at Sidwell and surprised she did not get in anywhere. The whole thing is so fishy.

Sidwell is a very small school. Being a track star at Sidwell doesn't mean much.

She was DC State Champion in the 100 meter run. This covers all DC public and private schools. That actually does mean much.

About 1% of students in DC do track and field as a sport. From a national athletic standpoint, it means close to nothing.

She is an All-American. She was ranked on a national level.

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Anonymous wrote:I still find it hard to believe she was rejected at every school including the HBCU. Something isn't right. Sounds like Sidwell gave terrible recommendations. Glad she is at UPenn now. Also she was a track star at Sidwell and surprised she did not get in anywhere. The whole thing is so fishy.

Sidwell is a very small school. Being a track star at Sidwell doesn't mean much.

Being an All-American and DC record holder does.

Anonymous wrote:And she was DC state champion in the 100 meters during her senior year!
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=2935244

That’s great though that’s not really equivalent to being a state champ. There’s only 600k or so people here. It’s more like being the 100 meter champ of Milwaukee.

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Anonymous wrote:I still find it hard to believe she was rejected at every school including the HBCU. Something isn't right. Sounds like Sidwell gave terrible recommendations. Glad she is at UPenn now. Also she was a track star at Sidwell and surprised she did not get in anywhere. The whole thing is so fishy.

Sidwell is a very small school. Being a track star at Sidwell doesn't mean much.

She was DC State Champion in the 100 meter run. This covers all DC public and private schools. That actually does mean much.

About 1% of students in DC do track and field as a sport. From a national athletic standpoint, it means close to nothing.