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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting twitter rumor running around that Trump could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, a la Nixon. Process that for a moment.

not a lawyer but...that means he can't pardon the other conspirators, right?

It’s a bad idea. Terrible really. Worse than firing Mueller. Possibly obstruction of justice. But he probably could, technically. Because he hasn’t been convicted. It’s weird territory. For sure.

The big deal here is that it would mean that Meuller has found evidence sufficient to indict Trump on something, but he can’t while Trump is in office, because a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It is the big red arrow pointing at Trump saying “this guy committed this specific crime with these people, so it’s time to impeach him”. Nixon resigned about six weeks after it became public that he was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Who do you all follow on Twitter that has good intel (i.e., has actually been right about something in the past)?

A bunch of alt-Federal accounts. Which do a surprisingly good job of tapping into the Feds (the deep state in action, ladies and gentlemen. I said I’d bring bagels to the next deep state meeting right?). But this looks like pure, unadulterated, wouldn’t it be great if speculation. Hence the use of the word rumor. Although I think this also popped up on News and Guts today.

I do believe there's a dishonest effort to get Trump removed. It's pretty clear now. That's the really bad part if he IS removed. This is all pretty banana republic, from the media being in bed with the Dems, etc. We put Catalonia/Spain to shame!

The dishonesty was Trump stealing the election. He has projected every single one of his wrongdoings. When he said the election was rigged, he wasn't lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting twitter rumor running around that Trump could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, a la Nixon. Process that for a moment.

not a lawyer but...that means he can't pardon the other conspirators, right?

It’s a bad idea. Terrible really. Worse than firing Mueller. Possibly obstruction of justice. But he probably could, technically. Because he hasn’t been convicted. It’s weird territory. For sure.

The big deal here is that it would mean that Meuller has found evidence sufficient to indict Trump on something, but he can’t while Trump is in office, because a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It is the big red arrow pointing at Trump saying “this guy committed this specific crime with these people, so it’s time to impeach him”. Nixon resigned about six weeks after it became public that he was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Do we know that Trump can't be indicted? The presidency is not a magic shield.

It's unclear. Jones v Clinton said that a sitting president could be sued, but that was civil, not criminal.

I think saying that the president is unindictable is correct. There is already a mechanism for these issues.

That doesn't mean that the president, once out of office, remains unindictable. Unless he is pardoned by his successor.

So Obama can be indicted for Uranium deal if there is enough evidence? That seems like a slippery slope.

An President gets an unbelievable amount of leeway when acting on matters of national security or in his official capacity. For all of Trump’s asshat nuttiness and half cocked schemes and conflicts of interest, there is not a lot indictable there, that we know of, after he was sworn in. Firing Comey, like Clinto lying under oath, is a problem if he did it to save his own skin. As opposed to because he hated Comey’s haircut. Which is why the fact we have memos outlining Obstruction are important.

If it’s not a war crime, we don’t indict President’s for official acts, or even really stupid decisions we strongly disagree with. We vote him out. We vote his party out. We vote his cronies out. GWB left office, and the whole starting a war on fake WMDs thing disappeared.

So yes. If Obama personally took kickbacks while in office to sell the US out to Russia, then yes, he could be indicted. But it is a really bad idea. Which is why Ford pardoned Nixon. At some point the country needs to start fresh and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting twitter rumor running around that Trump could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, a la Nixon. Process that for a moment.

not a lawyer but...that means he can't pardon the other conspirators, right?

It’s a bad idea. Terrible really. Worse than firing Mueller. Possibly obstruction of justice. But he probably could, technically. Because he hasn’t been convicted. It’s weird territory. For sure.

The big deal here is that it would mean that Meuller has found evidence sufficient to indict Trump on something, but he can’t while Trump is in office, because a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It is the big red arrow pointing at Trump saying “this guy committed this specific crime with these people, so it’s time to impeach him”. Nixon resigned about six weeks after it became public that he was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Who do you all follow on Twitter that has good intel (i.e., has actually been right about something in the past)?

A bunch of alt-Federal accounts. Which do a surprisingly good job of tapping into the Feds (the deep state in action, ladies and gentlemen. I said I’d bring bagels to the next deep state meeting right?). But this looks like pure, unadulterated, wouldn’t it be great if speculation. Hence the use of the word rumor. Although I think this also popped up on News and Guts today.

I do believe there's a dishonest effort to get Trump removed. It's pretty clear now. That's the really bad part if he IS removed. This is all pretty banana republic, from the media being in bed with the Dems, etc. We put Catalonia/Spain to shame!

If he would just not violate laws, none of this would be happening.

Liberal here. I don't want Trump removed. Let him hang around the neck of the republicans like a millstone for the rest of his 4 years!

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting twitter rumor running around that Trump could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, a la Nixon. Process that for a moment.

not a lawyer but...that means he can't pardon the other conspirators, right?

It’s a bad idea. Terrible really. Worse than firing Mueller. Possibly obstruction of justice. But he probably could, technically. Because he hasn’t been convicted. It’s weird territory. For sure.

The big deal here is that it would mean that Meuller has found evidence sufficient to indict Trump on something, but he can’t while Trump is in office, because a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It is the big red arrow pointing at Trump saying “this guy committed this specific crime with these people, so it’s time to impeach him”. Nixon resigned about six weeks after it became public that he was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Who do you all follow on Twitter that has good intel (i.e., has actually been right about something in the past)?

A bunch of alt-Federal accounts. Which do a surprisingly good job of tapping into the Feds (the deep state in action, ladies and gentlemen. I said I’d bring bagels to the next deep state meeting right?). But this looks like pure, unadulterated, wouldn’t it be great if speculation. Hence the use of the word rumor. Although I think this also popped up on News and Guts today.

I do believe there's a dishonest effort to get Trump removed. It's pretty clear now. That's the really bad part if he IS removed. This is all pretty banana republic, from the media being in bed with the Dems, etc. We put Catalonia/Spain to shame!

True.

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Anonymous wrote:The big question.....will Trump pardon after the accused's name becomes public?

Doesn't the person have to be convicted or plead guilty to be pardoned?

Yep, and just think about all the stuff that will probably come out during the trial!

Are you kidding? We can’t even get bank records from Fusion GPS who hired a foreign national who paid off Soviet sources in the dossier. FML.

To think the Department of Homeland Security was created to break up silos. Russia didn’t do thison their own. Obama admin and Hillary and her attorneys did this.

Obama and Hillary and her attorneys conspired to swing the Election for Trump?

Ummm. Okay. That’s an interesting take.

They conspired to swing it for themselves, but failed. Hence, all the shock and disbelief that night. Remember? "What Happened?"

Gimme a break. *Trump* was shocked that he won. Everyone was shocked. It was shocking for the election to come down to 60k votes in 3 states. Especially given the huge split in the popular vote.

Certain people knew why I had correctly predicted his win. So no, everyone was not shocked.

Well, Trump was shocked. I thought he had something, and was worried that he might possibly win, but I was still shocked.

But you knew. So I guess not everyone was shocked. Just every single person but one.

No, Trump wasn't shocked. Stop lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting twitter rumor running around that Trump could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, a la Nixon. Process that for a moment.

not a lawyer but...that means he can't pardon the other conspirators, right?

It’s a bad idea. Terrible really. Worse than firing Mueller. Possibly obstruction of justice. But he probably could, technically. Because he hasn’t been convicted. It’s weird territory. For sure.

The big deal here is that it would mean that Meuller has found evidence sufficient to indict Trump on something, but he can’t while Trump is in office, because a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It is the big red arrow pointing at Trump saying “this guy committed this specific crime with these people, so it’s time to impeach him”. Nixon resigned about six weeks after it became public that he was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Who do you all follow on Twitter that has good intel (i.e., has actually been right about something in the past)?

A bunch of alt-Federal accounts. Which do a surprisingly good job of tapping into the Feds (the deep state in action, ladies and gentlemen. I said I’d bring bagels to the next deep state meeting right?). But this looks like pure, unadulterated, wouldn’t it be great if speculation. Hence the use of the word rumor. Although I think this also popped up on News and Guts today.

I do believe there's a dishonest effort to get Trump removed. It's pretty clear now. That's the really bad part if he IS removed. This is all pretty banana republic, from the media being in bed with the Dems, etc. We put Catalonia/Spain to shame!

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Anonymous wrote:The big question.....will Trump pardon after the accused's name becomes public?

Doesn't the person have to be convicted or plead guilty to be pardoned?

Yep, and just think about all the stuff that will probably come out during the trial!

Are you kidding? We can’t even get bank records from Fusion GPS who hired a foreign national who paid off Soviet sources in the dossier. FML.

To think the Department of Homeland Security was created to break up silos. Russia didn’t do thison their own. Obama admin and Hillary and her attorneys did this.

Obama and Hillary and her attorneys conspired to swing the Election for Trump?

Ummm. Okay. That’s an interesting take.

They conspired to swing it for themselves, but failed. Hence, all the shock and disbelief that night. Remember? "What Happened?"

Gimme a break. *Trump* was shocked that he won. Everyone was shocked. It was shocking for the election to come down to 60k votes in 3 states. Especially given the huge split in the popular vote.

Certain people knew why I had correctly predicted his win. So no, everyone was not shocked.

Well, Trump was shocked. I thought he had something, and was worried that he might possibly win, but I was still shocked.

But you knew. So I guess not everyone was shocked. Just every single person but one.

You can add another sixty plus million to that. Your math is a little off.

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Anonymous wrote:The president is above the law. He can pardon his way out of trouble and replace any troublesome investigators or prosecutors. The GOP is solidly behind him.

The ones who should be worried are Hillary and Podesta.

Mueller will never bring charges to democrat royalty (Clintons & Obamas). He wants to be in history books, he wants the best NY Times obit there is, so he's going to be a thorn in Trump's side by pressing the people around him. He'll get Trump to resign going after Kushner and/or Don Jr.

Funny. Mueller's been a Republican forever, but the way y'all disown Rs as RINOs when they're not Tea Party or Trumpers, I guess, means that doesn't count.

They exposed themselves during the last administration. Ryan, McCain, Boehner, etc. None of them were loved during the Obama years.

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Anonymous wrote:The big question.....will Trump pardon after the accused's name becomes public?

Doesn't the person have to be convicted or plead guilty to be pardoned?

Yep, and just think about all the stuff that will probably come out during the trial!

Are you kidding? We can’t even get bank records from Fusion GPS who hired a foreign national who paid off Soviet sources in the dossier. FML.

To think the Department of Homeland Security was created to break up silos. Russia didn’t do thison their own. Obama admin and Hillary and her attorneys did this.

Obama and Hillary and her attorneys conspired to swing the Election for Trump?

Ummm. Okay. That’s an interesting take.

They conspired to swing it for themselves, but failed. Hence, all the shock and disbelief that night. Remember? "What Happened?"

Gimme a break. *Trump* was shocked that he won. Everyone was shocked. It was shocking for the election to come down to 60k votes in 3 states. Especially given the huge split in the popular vote.

Certain people knew why I had correctly predicted his win. So no, everyone was not shocked.

Well, Trump was shocked. I thought he had something, and was worried that he might possibly win, but I was still shocked.

But you knew. So I guess not everyone was shocked. Just every single person but one.

This. That man looked as out of his depth that night as he is.

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Anonymous wrote:The big question.....will Trump pardon after the accused's name becomes public?

Doesn't the person have to be convicted or plead guilty to be pardoned?

Yep, and just think about all the stuff that will probably come out during the trial!

Are you kidding? We can’t even get bank records from Fusion GPS who hired a foreign national who paid off Soviet sources in the dossier. FML.

To think the Department of Homeland Security was created to break up silos. Russia didn’t do thison their own. Obama admin and Hillary and her attorneys did this.

Obama and Hillary and her attorneys conspired to swing the Election for Trump?

Ummm. Okay. That’s an interesting take.

They conspired to swing it for themselves, but failed. Hence, all the shock and disbelief that night. Remember? "What Happened?"

Gimme a break. *Trump* was shocked that he won. Everyone was shocked. It was shocking for the election to come down to 60k votes in 3 states. Especially given the huge split in the popular vote.

Certain people knew why I had correctly predicted his win. So no, everyone was not shocked.

Well, Trump was shocked. I thought he had something, and was worried that he might possibly win, but I was still shocked.

But you knew. So I guess not everyone was shocked. Just every single person but one.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting twitter rumor running around that Trump could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, a la Nixon. Process that for a moment.

not a lawyer but...that means he can't pardon the other conspirators, right?

It’s a bad idea. Terrible really. Worse than firing Mueller. Possibly obstruction of justice. But he probably could, technically. Because he hasn’t been convicted. It’s weird territory. For sure.

The big deal here is that it would mean that Meuller has found evidence sufficient to indict Trump on something, but he can’t while Trump is in office, because a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It is the big red arrow pointing at Trump saying “this guy committed this specific crime with these people, so it’s time to impeach him”. Nixon resigned about six weeks after it became public that he was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Who do you all follow on Twitter that has good intel (i.e., has actually been right about something in the past)?

A bunch of alt-Federal accounts. Which do a surprisingly good job of tapping into the Feds (the deep state in action, ladies and gentlemen. I said I’d bring bagels to the next deep state meeting right?). But this looks like pure, unadulterated, wouldn’t it be great if speculation. Hence the use of the word rumor. Although I think this also popped up on News and Guts today.

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Anonymous wrote:Could be Michael Flynn JUNIOR to put the heat on Flynn.

When Mueller ran the Enron investigation, he arrested the wives first to get the husbands to give up the goods.

So, Ivanka? I could see wire fraud.

That would be shocking. Much more shocking than Kushner.

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Anonymous wrote:The president is above the law. He can pardon his way out of trouble and replace any troublesome investigators or prosecutors. The GOP is solidly behind him.

The ones who should be worried are Hillary and Podesta.

Mueller will never bring charges to democrat royalty (Clintons & Obamas). He wants to be in history books, he wants the best NY Times obit there is, so he's going to be a thorn in Trump's side by pressing the people around him. He'll get Trump to resign going after Kushner and/or Don Jr.

Funny. Mueller's been a Republican forever, but the way y'all disown Rs as RINOs when they're not Tea Party or Trumpers, I guess, means that doesn't count.

Anonymous wrote:Could be Michael Flynn JUNIOR to put the heat on Flynn.

When Mueller ran the Enron investigation, he arrested the wives first to get the husbands to give up the goods.

So, Ivanka? I could see wire fraud.