Anonymous wrote:34 pages of bickering? Really? 34 pages?

1) they need to lower the speed limit on River and put in traffic calming devices.
You a%%? car drivers keep mowing down the elderly, kids walking to school and killing whole families

2) The richest county in the country should put in some decent bike lanes with some road flags to keep the drivers off of them

3) If you run over a cyclist it will actually ruin your life and that of your spouse and kids. Guaranteed.

1) No

2) The richest county in the country doesn't want trash bikers running roughshod over its roads

3) No, it very much won't.

Anonymous wrote:

Its a lot easier to fit the exercise time in when I make it part of my daily commute. Which means yes, its (usually) during rush hour, and not entirely on trails. But on the street I rode on today, in DC, I was pretty much keeping up with the cars. Traffic calmed grid of streets, for the win!

I get that. and not always will the bike trail lead you to your destination. i'd almost rather play russian roulette than ride a bike around here...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each cyclist puts their own life in the hands of every driver that passes them. I don't cycle because I can't trust that many people.

Mebbe so, but the reality is, unless you are disciplined enough to get equivalent exercise elsewhere, you are extending your life expectancy by riding.

Yes, I am that disciplined. Just get up an hour earlier.

In terms of the highest number of cyclist deaths, Florida ranked No. 1 with 150 lives lost.

Resolved. To not ride in Florida.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Mebbe so, but the reality is, unless you are disciplined enough to get equivalent exercise elsewhere, you are extending your life expectancy by riding.

research has proven that for each hour of cycling, you are adding an hour to your life span...

however In 2015 in the United States, over 1,000 bicyclists died and there were almost 467,000 bicycle-related injuries
Adults aged 50 to 59 years have the highest bicycle death rates.
Children (5-14 years) and adolescents (15-19 years) have the highest rates of nonfatal bicycle-related injuries, accounting for more than one-third of all bicycle-related injuries seen in U.S. emergency departments.3
Males die 6 times more often and are injured 4 times more often on bicycles than females.
Most bicyclist deaths occur in urban areas and at non-intersection locations.

What you left out.

"Evening rush hour tends to be the most dangerous time for cyclists – specifically between 6 p.m. and 9 p.m.
Researchers also concluded that most bicyclists were struck by the front of the motor vehicle,"

Evening rush more dangerous than AM. And most hit from in front, NOT from behind. So its not normal taking the lane that is the issue - in all likelihood, its people riding with inadequate lights, being hit by distracted drivers.

As for urban, many more people are riding in urban areas.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Mebbe so, but the reality is, unless you are disciplined enough to get equivalent exercise elsewhere, you are extending your life expectancy by riding.

research has proven that for each hour of cycling, you are adding an hour to your life span...

however In 2015 in the United States, over 1,000 bicyclists died and there were almost 467,000 bicycle-related injuries
Adults aged 50 to 59 years have the highest bicycle death rates.
Children (5-14 years) and adolescents (15-19 years) have the highest rates of nonfatal bicycle-related injuries, accounting for more than one-third of all bicycle-related injuries seen in U.S. emergency departments.3
Males die 6 times more often and are injured 4 times more often on bicycles than females.
Most bicyclist deaths occur in urban areas and at non-intersection locations.

great you extend you life, but at the same time. you are risking your life and the potential for serious injury... risk/reward. It woudl really suck to have spent your life riding bikes so you can live a longer healthier life, only to get injured or killed doing the thing thats is supposed to make you live longer. especially when there are plenty of places to ride your bike to get the health benefits, where you are not in direct competition with cars/ truck for space on the road.... Or there are much better times of the day to get said excercise, than during rush hour when you have more vehicles in a confined space.

Its a lot easier to fit the exercise time in when I make it part of my daily commute. Which means yes, its (usually) during rush hour, and not entirely on trails. But on the street I rode on today, in DC, I was pretty much keeping up with the cars. Traffic calmed grid of streets, for the win!

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Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty damn stupid to put your life on the line to get to work.

I'd either get a car like everyone else, or take a bus. But it's idiotic to risk your life (it it really IS that dangerous) just to get to work.

You can't tell me a bike is the ONLY option these people have. No one believes that.

Therefore it's a choice. And they are CHOOSING to risk their life to get to ....... their desk at work.


That's just F'ing stupid.


If I'm gonna risk my life, it'll be to save my kids or my wife. Not for getting to my job.

+1000

Most of these bikers do so on $3-4000 bikes... and disobey all of the bike rules!!!

Very dangerous! And entitled.

I ride a bike that sold for about $700, several years ago. Loads of people riding cheap bikes, and there are even drop bar road bikes under 1k. But yeah, lots of people riding bikes that sell for less than the amount of one car payment.

And no cyclists disobeys ALL the rules. You are being silly. But I guess this gave you a chance to post 4 different memes, so I hope you feel better. I had a great ride in this morning. Its beautiful out.

Anonymous wrote:

Mebbe so, but the reality is, unless you are disciplined enough to get equivalent exercise elsewhere, you are extending your life expectancy by riding.

research has proven that for each hour of cycling, you are adding an hour to your life span...

however In 2015 in the United States, over 1,000 bicyclists died and there were almost 467,000 bicycle-related injuries
Adults aged 50 to 59 years have the highest bicycle death rates.
Children (5-14 years) and adolescents (15-19 years) have the highest rates of nonfatal bicycle-related injuries, accounting for more than one-third of all bicycle-related injuries seen in U.S. emergency departments.3
Males die 6 times more often and are injured 4 times more often on bicycles than females.
Most bicyclist deaths occur in urban areas and at non-intersection locations.

great you extend you life, but at the same time. you are risking your life and the potential for serious injury... risk/reward. It woudl really suck to have spent your life riding bikes so you can live a longer healthier life, only to get injured or killed doing the thing thats is supposed to make you live longer. especially when there are plenty of places to ride your bike to get the health benefits, where you are not in direct competition with cars/ truck for space on the road.... Or there are much better times of the day to get said excercise, than during rush hour when you have more vehicles in a confined space.

Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty damn stupid to put your life on the line to get to work.

I'd either get a car like everyone else, or take a bus. But it's idiotic to risk your life (it it really IS that dangerous) just to get to work.

You can't tell me a bike is the ONLY option these people have. No one believes that.

Therefore it's a choice. And they are CHOOSING to risk their life to get to ....... their desk at work.


That's just F'ing stupid.


If I'm gonna risk my life, it'll be to save my kids or my wife. Not for getting to my job.

+1000

Most of these bikers do so on $3-4000 bikes... and disobey all of the bike rules!!!

Very dangerous! And entitled.

Anonymous wrote:34 pages of bickering? Really? 34 pages?
But yet you joined the fray.

1) they need to lower the speed limit on River and put in traffic calming devices.
You a%%? car drivers keep mowing down the elderly, kids walking to school and killing whole families
This is not true.

2) The richest county in the country should put in some decent bike lanes with some road flags to keep the drivers off of them
We don't need MORE bike lanes. That would result in MORE bikers on River Road.

3) If you run over a cyclist it will actually ruin your life and that of your spouse and kids. Guaranteed.

It will not. The biker will probably have done something that was unsafe/irresponsible and it is unlikely you will go to jail.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each cyclist puts their own life in the hands of every driver that passes them. I don't cycle because I can't trust that many people.

Do you also never cross the street as a pedestrian? Putting your life in the hands of drivers.
Do you drive on a highway? Also putting your life in the hands of drivers.

But I don't cross the street on the highway as a pedestrian!!! I saw AGAIN yesterday afternoon someone riding their bike on the GW Parkway going south near the airport exit. SMH

34 pages of bickering? Really? 34 pages?

1) they need to lower the speed limit on River and put in traffic calming devices.
You a%%? car drivers keep mowing down the elderly, kids walking to school and killing whole families

2) The richest county in the country should put in some decent bike lanes with some road flags to keep the drivers off of them

3) If you run over a cyclist it will actually ruin your life and that of your spouse and kids. Guaranteed.