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Anonymous wrote:I oppose Gay Marriage.

I LOVE that marriage equality has become so accepted that you don't want others to know how you truly feel!

Me too, as a lesbian I love to hear that I'm finally going to maybe possibly be treated as a human.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again. Forgot: Immigration (illegal or otherwise).

This has to be a troll b/c unless OP is Native American, his/her family came from elsewhere.

I clarified in a later post. Keep up, sparky.

Anonymous wrote:I oppose Gay Marriage.

I LOVE that marriage equality has become so accepted that you don't want others to know how you truly feel!

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

In theory, illnesses or disorders such as schizophrenia and autism weren't supposed to be passed down. A lot of scientists thought people who had them wouldn't be given the opportunity to procreate. Not so though.

What theory is that! Neither illness prevents one from procreating.

It's not that those who have the illness aren't able to procreate. It's that people who don't have those illnesses would not procreate with those who have them.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

In theory, illnesses or disorders such as schizophrenia and autism weren't supposed to be passed down. A lot of scientists thought people who had them wouldn't be given the opportunity to procreate. Not so though.

There are some theories that autism is actually a species *benefit* - that they have the genetic edge. Of course, we don't really know, and only time will tell.

People who become hysterical just because you have a non-PC opinion or two, and act like you are Hitler, Pol-Pot and Stalin all rolled up into one. And who think they will convince you to change your mind by shouting "shame shame shame" instead of talking to you like you are a rational adult. Or who think saying "well, I guess that means you hate me" is an example of talking to you like you were a rational adult.

And vegans.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

uhmm, ok, pps point still stands that childhood cancer is an evolutionary adaption as well. The children who die are serving the "the greater species purpose" as you so eloquently put it.

It may very well be. That doesn't mean that as humans, we abandon our adaptive duty to do all we can for our children when they get sick - that's an evolutionary response, too. People who smoke a pack a day and live till their 90's aren't just "lucky" - for whatever reason, they have some kind of fitness that enables them to still thrive. These things tend to be genetic, and there's some validity to those trends. Obviously doesn't mean everyone should smoke a pack a day, but one can't deny the genetic components that guide all our lives to some extent - or combination of nature vs. nurture.

Tattoos
veganism
vegetarian children
Corporate farmed meats (tho that's not much of a secret to people who know me well)
Circumcision
People who drive places they could easily walk, bus, or bike to
Making kids play sports when it's clear the kid hates it
Scouts
Democrats, but lately republicans too
People who call you hateful if you disagree with them on anything

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Anonymous wrote:People who hate ALL organized religion because they choose to apply unfair sweeping assumptions that ALL organized religion is bad, woman-hating, patriarchal, Republican and backward.

Name one that isn't.

Unitarian Universalism

Ethical Culture

I'm not Christian but I think the United Church of Christ is pretty forward thinking.

These are people who just don't have the balls to be atheists. I have never heard of the other two.

Religion is antiquated. I have no idea why people still do it. It is like they cannot deal with the fact that there is no meaning to life, no one is in charge, and there is no reward for being a good person or no punishment for being a bad person. All religion is full of hatred for women. All!

No, all religions don't hate women. Second, I love how you think you KNOW the truth about "no meaning to life" etc while those who disagree just have an opinion.

Ok then believe in your Jewish zombie. I don't care. Women don't have equal standing in religion. But continue your hatred of "non-believers" or people who believe in another god other than yours.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

In theory, illnesses or disorders such as schizophrenia and autism weren't supposed to be passed down. A lot of scientists thought people who had them wouldn't be given the opportunity to procreate. Not so though.

What theory is that! Neither illness prevents one from procreating.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

uhmm, ok, pps point still stands that childhood cancer is an evolutionary adaption as well. The children who die are serving the "the greater species purpose" as you so eloquently put it.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

In theory, illnesses or disorders such as schizophrenia and autism weren't supposed to be passed down. A lot of scientists thought people who had them wouldn't be given the opportunity to procreate. Not so though.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't take when parents with kids in daycare or with a nanny say "they really do love my child". Umm, no they don't. They most likely enjoy your child and care for him / her but if they were not paid to watch your child they simply would not do so. It isn't love that keeps a non-parent caregiver from doing their job.

I used to be a nanny and I truly, truly loved my charges. Adored them and cried when I had to move away and leave them. You are making a universal statement. This may be true of some but it certainly is not true of all.

I agree. Our ex nanny fell apart when we decided to move on. She calls our son all the time, sometimes crying, telling him how much she misses him, sends him gifts, letters, cards. Even though she moved back to her country, she comes back to visit him every year. She loves him alright.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I realize that this may sound harsh, but a lot of people think of infertility as an evolutionary mechanism. I realize that isn't an emotionally acceptable idea for those struggling with infertility, but such evolutionary mechanisms are evident in all species.

new poster here. But then isn't any disease, especially cancer also an evolutionary mechanism? Especially cancer in childhood and young adulthood.

Natural selection is a very slow, very gradual process, over thousands and thousands of years. There may very well be mechanisms already working within us to counter those diseases, and they may very well be a part of infertility. I know it doesn't make it easier to bear for those that wish to pass on their genes and have biological children, but infertility can serve a greater species purpose and benefit.

This whole thread is like yelling Fire in a crowded theatre. Too bad this forum exists.