What you posters saying it is “unenforceable” may be missing is that parents are seeing the deteriorating conditions at public schools due to lack of discipline, and they are opting out. They are homeschooling and private schooling at higher rates, and therefore uninvested in the public schools. Eventually this will bite as fewer and fewer homeowners will be on the side of higher taxes to support public schools, resulting in fewer students, teachers, and resources.
If public schools don’t turn this around, they are screwed.
And don’t tell me it’s not possible. I have been in Japanese public schools and Catholic schools and order is possible, even on a low budget.

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Anonymous wrote:Apple Watch solves the problem

Those are banned too now. You can’t wear them at school.

get parents to organize so that half the school is thrown into detention.

then let the admin deal with the falloutT. policies would change quickly.

+1

This is a state law. What part of that is hard to understand? Why try to create misery for the schools that are responsible for enforcing the law? Some of you would really benefit from subbing in a school for a few days.

Guess you never heard of civil disobedience?

Check your reading comprehension. PP stated that policies would change quickly if admin had to deal with the fallout of half the school being in detention. This is a state law, not a policy, and school-based admin (and district admin) have no authority to change it. Try lobbying your state legistators if you really think this law needs to be changed.

1. My HS doesn’t have real detention anymore. “Detention” is having students sit in a room for part of Mascot Block. It’s not even after school and nothing happens if they don’t go. The students know this.

2. For the 3rd time, nothing will happen if they use their phones at lunch. We don’t have the staff to enforce this. I’ve said it before, they can’t even get them to throw their trash away. That has been a battle for years with no progress at my high school.

Then it sounds like the real problem isn’t the rule, but that rules enforcement in general has deteriorated to this degree. That is a big problem affecting public education and it will get worse if it is not addressed.
Ever heard of the broken window theory?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apple Watch solves the problem

Those are banned too now. You can’t wear them at school.

get parents to organize so that half the school is thrown into detention.

then let the admin deal with the falloutT. policies would change quickly.

+1

This is a state law. What part of that is hard to understand? Why try to create misery for the schools that are responsible for enforcing the law? Some of you would really benefit from subbing in a school for a few days.

Guess you never heard of civil disobedience?

Check your reading comprehension. PP stated that policies would change quickly if admin had to deal with the fallout of half the school being in detention. This is a state law, not a policy, and school-based admin (and district admin) have no authority to change it. Try lobbying your state legistators if you really think this law needs to be changed.

1. My HS doesn’t have real detention anymore. “Detention” is having students sit in a room for part of Mascot Block. It’s not even after school and nothing happens if they don’t go. The students know this.

2. For the 3rd time, nothing will happen if they use their phones at lunch. We don’t have the staff to enforce this. I’ve said it before, they can’t even get them to throw their trash away. That has been a battle for years with no progress at my high school.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/school-bullying-lunch-shaming-c6eb5a4b?st=8zpiKS

Another good reason for a bell-to-bell rule.

So again this is a case of punishing the good kids who really just want to text quickly at lunch to let a parent know about staying after.

I’m sorry there are so many kids who are addicted to their phones or who use it for cyber bullying. Mine doesn’t.

Rules aren’t punishments.

They can be when they are targeting certain kids.

The same rules apply to every kid. There are no “certain kids”.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/school-bullying-lunch-shaming-c6eb5a4b?st=8zpiKS

Another good reason for a bell-to-bell rule.

So again this is a case of punishing the good kids who really just want to text quickly at lunch to let a parent know about staying after.

I’m sorry there are so many kids who are addicted to their phones or who use it for cyber bullying. Mine doesn’t.

Rules aren’t punishments.

They can be when they are targeting certain kids.

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Which “certain kids” are being targeted?

Kids who are addicted to their phones.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/school-bullying-lunch-shaming-c6eb5a4b?st=8zpiKS

Another good reason for a bell-to-bell rule.

So again this is a case of punishing the good kids who really just want to text quickly at lunch to let a parent know about staying after.

I’m sorry there are so many kids who are addicted to their phones or who use it for cyber bullying. Mine doesn’t.

Rules aren’t punishments.

They can be when they are targeting certain kids.

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Which “certain kids” are being targeted?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apple Watch solves the problem

Those are banned too now. You can’t wear them at school.

get parents to organize so that half the school is thrown into detention.

then let the admin deal with the falloutT. policies would change quickly.

+1

This is a state law. What part of that is hard to understand? Why try to create misery for the schools that are responsible for enforcing the law? Some of you would really benefit from subbing in a school for a few days.

Guess you never heard of civil disobedience?

Check your reading comprehension. PP stated that policies would change quickly if admin had to deal with the fallout of half the school being in detention. This is a state law, not a policy, and school-based admin (and district admin) have no authority to change it. Try lobbying your state legistators if you really think this law needs to be changed.

Check your history books lady.

What happens if they ignore it? I don't see ANY penalities in § 22.1-79.3:1

When no one follows the rules, they have no meaning.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/school-bullying-lunch-shaming-c6eb5a4b?st=8zpiKS

Another good reason for a bell-to-bell rule.

So again this is a case of punishing the good kids who really just want to text quickly at lunch to let a parent know about staying after.

I’m sorry there are so many kids who are addicted to their phones or who use it for cyber bullying. Mine doesn’t.

Rules aren’t punishments.

They can be when they are targeting certain kids.

Targeting? Stop with the victim mentality.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apple Watch solves the problem

Those are banned too now. You can’t wear them at school.

get parents to organize so that half the school is thrown into detention.

then let the admin deal with the falloutT. policies would change quickly.

+1

This is a state law. What part of that is hard to understand? Why try to create misery for the schools that are responsible for enforcing the law? Some of you would really benefit from subbing in a school for a few days.

Guess you never heard of civil disobedience?

Check your reading comprehension. PP stated that policies would change quickly if admin had to deal with the fallout of half the school being in detention. This is a state law, not a policy, and school-based admin (and district admin) have no authority to change it. Try lobbying your state legistators if you really think this law needs to be changed.